New safety rate for Civic 2008! (Euroncap test)

Humano · 19th December 2007, 13:52

Hi,

The new 2008 version has some improvements in safety:

CIVIC 2006/2007
Euro NCAP - For safer cars | Honda Civic

CIVIC 2008
Euro NCAP - For safer cars | Honda Civic

Front impact
Honda have modified the safety system of the Civic for the 2008 model year car. The timing of the pretensioners has been changed to provide better restraint of the front seat passengers and dual stage frontal airbags have replaced the previous single stage units. However, in the frontal test, the driver's airbag was not sufficiently well inflated to prevent the driver's head from contacting the steering wheel. The passenger compartment remained stable. Structures in the dashboard presented a potential hazard to the driver's femurs.

Side impact
The 2008 Civic has a larger side airbag than its 2006 predecessor. Rib deflections were lower, resulting in a score one point higher than the earlier version. Like last time, the car scored the maximum two points in the pole test.

Child-protection
The passenger airbag can be disabled by Honda dealers to allow a rearward facing child restraint to be used in that seating position. There was a clear warning of the dangers of using a childseat in that seat if the airbag has not been disabled. The presence of ISOFIX anchorages in the rear outboard seats was not clearly marked.

Pedestrian protection
Honda have made no changes that would influence the results of the pedestrian tests so the results of the car tested in 2006 have been carried over here. Both the bumper and the leading edge of the bonnet scored maximum points for the protection they offered to the legs of pedestrians. The part of the bonnet likely to be struck by a child's head was also rated predominantly 'fair'.

PTR · 19th December 2007, 15:19

still only 4 starts! that's a shame!
it should had reached the 5 stars!
i think now all the pr guys, dealers, engineers are swetting like crazy

"5 star NCAP expected" yes for the facelifted or the 9th gen. model oops

Humano · 19th December 2007, 16:24

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Originally Posted by PTR

still only 4 starts! that's a shame!
it should had reached the 5 stars!
i think now all the pr guys, dealers, engineers are swetting like crazy

"5 star NCAP expected" yes for the facelifted or the 9th gen. model oops

They were on the point to get it but the driver main airbag didn't inflated enough for the green flag on head.

There's only ONE point left to get the 5 starts. sh¡t!

ameli · 22nd December 2007, 15:00

The new Mazda 2 and Volvo V70, included in the same euroncap release, also demonstrated a similar problem with delayed deployment of airbags. Both manufacturers took steps to rectify the problems in their vehicles. Mazda improved the airbag control software and had the car re-tested, finally receiving 5 stars, and committed to contact all new Mazda 2 owners to ensure their cars are upgraded.

In my opinion, to get the green flag on the driver's head and 5 stars for the 2008 Civic is just a matter of improved firing of the driver's frontal airbag. Honda should take care of this and upgrade all 2008 Civics.

Humano · 22nd December 2007, 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by ameli

The new Mazda 2 and Volvo V70, included in the same euroncap release, also demonstrated a similar problem with delayed deployment of airbags. Both manufacturers took steps to rectify the problems in their vehicles. Mazda improved the airbag control software and had the car re-tested, finally receiving 5 stars, and committed to contact all new Mazda 2 owners to ensure their cars are upgraded.

In my opinion, to get the green flag on the driver's head and 5 stars for the 2008 Civic is just a matter of improved firing of the driver's frontal airbag. Honda should take care of this and upgrade all 2008 Civics.

The delay of airbags is controlled by software?
Could the software of the civic be upgraded when you take it to service review?

john_lickman · 22nd December 2007, 23:44

Is it just me, or do the 2008 results seem to have more yellow (average) patches and less green?

Seems like the NCAP tests are quite a bit more subjective than I thought they are, or Honda really mucked up on those tests

minisweeper · 22nd December 2007, 23:51

As a 2006 driver I'm glad to see that even when my right leg gets severed the bottom half of it will still actually be in good condition! Bound to come in handy for something...

john_lickman · 22nd December 2007, 23:59

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Originally Posted by minisweeper

As a 2006 driver I'm glad to see that even when my right leg gets severed the bottom half of it will still actually be in good condition! Bound to come in handy for something...

You could always hop over to the errant driver that crashed into you and beat them to death with the severed limb! Should make the front page of the local newspapers, if nothing else

minisweeper · 23rd December 2007, 00:02

Hop with both my legs severed? That would be challenging. I guess I could pull off a monty-python-esque fight scene...

john_lickman · 23rd December 2007, 07:32

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Originally Posted by minisweeper

Hop with both my legs severed? That would be challenging. I guess I could pull off a monty-python-esque fight scene...

What do ya mean 4 star rating, that's only a flesh wound! Come back and test me again you coward!!!

Well, it would certainly make the ECAP testing labs a more exciting place to work

Munro · 23rd December 2007, 07:58

Is this the Monty Python fan club thread ?

FWH · 23rd December 2007, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munro

Is this the Monty Python fan club thread ?

I can just see the NCAP testing official now...

"None shall pass"..

Munro · 23rd December 2007, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by FWH

I can just see the NCAP testing official now...

"None shall pass"..

Or "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition"

Humano · 23rd December 2007, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humano

The delay of airbags is controlled by software?
Could the software of the civic be upgraded when you take it to service review?

I reply myself: The results for VOLVO V70 and MAZDA 2 has already been released, though they went wrong calling the new release civic 2007 instead of civic 2008.

czechplastik · 23rd December 2007, 17:42

Interesting, I expect them to keep working on this.

Humano · 24th December 2007, 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

Interesting, I expect them to keep working on this.

I don't think that Honda is fixing it. The final result has been finally released. I think that the cost of contacting with the sold cars and reflashing the software is too much.

19th December 2007, 13:52	#1 (permalink)
Humano Wheelnut Join Date: 12th December 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 82 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New safety rate for Civic 2008! (Euroncap test) Hi, The new 2008 version has some improvements in safety: CIVIC 2006/2007 Euro NCAP - For safer cars \| Honda Civic CIVIC 2008 Euro NCAP - For safer cars \| Honda Civic Front impact Honda have modified the safety system of the Civic for the 2008 model year car. The timing of the pretensioners has been changed to provide better restraint of the front seat passengers and dual stage frontal airbags have replaced the previous single stage units. However, in the frontal test, the driver's airbag was not sufficiently well inflated to prevent the driver's head from contacting the steering wheel. The passenger compartment remained stable. Structures in the dashboard presented a potential hazard to the driver's femurs. Side impact The 2008 Civic has a larger side airbag than its 2006 predecessor. Rib deflections were lower, resulting in a score one point higher than the earlier version. Like last time, the car scored the maximum two points in the pole test. Child-protection The passenger airbag can be disabled by Honda dealers to allow a rearward facing child restraint to be used in that seating position. There was a clear warning of the dangers of using a childseat in that seat if the airbag has not been disabled. The presence of ISOFIX anchorages in the rear outboard seats was not clearly marked. Pedestrian protection Honda have made no changes that would influence the results of the pedestrian tests so the results of the car tested in 2006 have been carried over here. Both the bumper and the leading edge of the bonnet scored maximum points for the protection they offered to the legs of pedestrians. The part of the bonnet likely to be struck by a child's head was also rated predominantly 'fair'. Last edited by Humano; 19th December 2007 at 14:12.

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19th December 2007, 15:19	#2 (permalink)
PTR Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 4th October 2006 Location: Hungary Posts: 668 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	still only 4 starts! that's a shame! it should had reached the 5 stars! i think now all the pr guys, dealers, engineers are swetting like crazy "5 star NCAP expected" yes for the facelifted or the 9th gen. model oops

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ameli Valve Cap Join Date: 7th September 2007 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The new Mazda 2 and Volvo V70, included in the same euroncap release, also demonstrated a similar problem with delayed deployment of airbags. Both manufacturers took steps to rectify the problems in their vehicles. Mazda improved the airbag control software and had the car re-tested, finally receiving 5 stars, and committed to contact all new Mazda 2 owners to ensure their cars are upgraded. In my opinion, to get the green flag on the driver's head and 5 stars for the 2008 Civic is just a matter of improved firing of the driver's frontal airbag. Honda should take care of this and upgrade all 2008 Civics.

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john_lickman Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd August 2007 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is it just me, or do the 2008 results seem to have more yellow (average) patches and less green? Seems like the NCAP tests are quite a bit more subjective than I thought they are, or Honda really mucked up on those tests

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minisweeper Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 23rd June 2007 Posts: 189 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	As a 2006 driver I'm glad to see that even when my right leg gets severed the bottom half of it will still actually be in good condition! Bound to come in handy for something...

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,492 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Interesting, I expect them to keep working on this.