Who wants a flip key? - Page 18

Stef · 4th February 2008, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbieee

What size is it?!?!

It is 38mm x 68mm x 15mm (plastic body only)

gray52 · 4th February 2008, 22:22

is the chrome key ring at the bottom metal or chrome plated plastic?

csmcqueen · 5th February 2008, 09:21

I suspected you may have to solder it to the main board, but not a big task as its only 2 wires (I would use a thin kynar 30awg wire).

You will have exactly the same problem with the bentley style keys because of the flip mechanism so that will probably put a lot of people off (unless they want to take them to someone else to solder for them).

BTW Stef - Good job, looks much better than the original but I didnt realise it was quite that big.

babyjoe · 5th February 2008, 11:03

Isn't it possible to ask the chinese factory to incorporate the chip as much to the front as possible?

csmcqueen · 5th February 2008, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyjoe

Isn't it possible to ask the chinese factory to incorporate the chip as much to the front as possible?

The problem is the chip is on the main circuit board of the Civic's remote and there is only so far the original remote package can be placed forward because of the mechanics of the flip action.

It may be possible to move it slightly forward compared to the ebay one but I doubt far enough to trigger the immobiliser.

Stef · 5th February 2008, 11:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by gray52

is the chrome key ring at the bottom metal or chrome plated plastic?

It is real metal chrome, not plastic.

Stef · 5th February 2008, 11:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmcqueen

I suspected you may have to solder it to the main board, but not a big task as its only 2 wires (I would use a thin kynar 30awg wire).

You will have exactly the same problem with the bentley style keys because of the flip mechanism so that will probably put a lot of people off (unless they want to take them to someone else to solder for them).

BTW Stef - Good job, looks much better than the original but I didnt realise it was quite that big.

Due to the lenght of the metal key it can not be made shorter.
Due to the width and hight of the original key internal, it can not be made smaller and thinnner.
I estimate it is 10% bigger then the VW one

eighteentee · 5th February 2008, 15:41

I suppose the burning question for those of us who got an eBay flip key is- is it worth the hassle of hacking the existing key to make it work in the flip housing? For me personally I'm ok with soldering irons and snips so it ain't going to bother me that much...

csmcqueen · 5th February 2008, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by eighteentee

I suppose the burning question for those of us who got an eBay flip key is- is it worth the hassle of hacking the existing key to make it work in the flip housing? For me personally I'm ok with soldering irons and snips so it ain't going to bother me that much...

OF COURSE IT IS!!!!

If only just to have a custom flippy key for your civic

Stef · 5th February 2008, 19:42

For those that are waiting for the Ebay Flip key;
Do not let jou take away with the first impresion, it looks like a cheap plastic box.
Wait untill it is completely assembled to judge the key.

Then it will look like in my pictures.

gray52 · 5th February 2008, 22:48

how is the flick out part made? only asking as i dont want to go to the trouble of removing the transponer, only to find the flick out key part has packed up after a few months.

slick · 6th February 2008, 09:32

i might be able to help out in the essex/suffolk area.

i am a secondary school tech teacher, teaching metal work, wood work, graphics, electronics and textiles. electronics is not my best subject, but i know enough to get by, and i'm very competant with the soldering iron.

if it came to a situation where the new bently key worked but needed som soldering and people were uneasy with doing this. then i might be able to offer out my services if people get the key cut and then bring me their old key and the new key body i could do the transfer for people. it would be a 5 min job (guess).

and i wouldn't charge for it. call it services to the club. (but i'm not a travelling service, if you want it you got to come to me

)

p.s. my job opened up a whole lot of eyes on the mr2roc forum when they found out what i had access to

)

Stef · 6th February 2008, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by gray52

how is the flick out part made? only asking as i dont want to go to the trouble of removing the transponer, only to find the flick out key part has packed up after a few months.

I find the mechanism made rather good, it is made out of metal.
Like I mentioned, I did add some silicone grease to the mechanism, also I did no tight the spring as much like original (about 1 turn instead of 2)

If you open the key, the flip mechanism releases itself, you will have to rewind the spring, upon assembly.

woody2k4 · 6th February 2008, 22:49

slick i may hold you to that offer!

gray52 · 6th February 2008, 23:56

If you open the key, the flip mechanism releases itself, you will have to rewind the spring, upon assembly.[/quote]

so the key does flick out by pressing the button, just like the vw type?

mark511915 · 7th February 2008, 07:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by beggs

when do you think the bentley key might be ready .

sorry its just so hard to wait

slick · 7th February 2008, 08:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by woody2k4

slick i may hold you to that offer!

not a problem, we'll just have to wait and see what happens with the key, it may just work straight off.

but like i said am happy to help

Stef · 7th February 2008, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by gray52

If you open the key, the flip mechanism releases itself, you will have to rewind the spring, upon assembly.

so the key does flick out by pressing the button, just like the vw type?[/quote]

?? Of course it does, what else is a flip key

Stef · 7th February 2008, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark511915

sorry its just so hard to wait

I work with Chinese every day
It will take a while to make all the moulds (plastic parts, metal parts, stickers..)
The test runs, corrections...

Who will pay for the moulds? My estimation they will cost about 3000€ and they need payment in advance!

So it could take a while. 3 - 6mnth

Anyhow the transponder MUST be moved to the front of the key, there is NO other way.

Robbieee · 7th February 2008, 13:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stef

I work with Chinese every day
It will take a while to make all the moulds (plastic parts, metal parts, stickers..)
The test runs, corrections...

Who will pay for the moulds? My estimation they will cost about 3000€ and they need payment in advance!

So it could take a while. 3 - 6mnth

Anyhow the transponder MUST be moved to the front of the key, there is NO other way.

I am confused

Are you building a flip key too stef?

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slick Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 14th December 2007 Location: Ipswich, UK Posts: 67 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i might be able to help out in the essex/suffolk area. i am a secondary school tech teacher, teaching metal work, wood work, graphics, electronics and textiles. electronics is not my best subject, but i know enough to get by, and i'm very competant with the soldering iron. if it came to a situation where the new bently key worked but needed som soldering and people were uneasy with doing this. then i might be able to offer out my services if people get the key cut and then bring me their old key and the new key body i could do the transfer for people. it would be a 5 min job (guess). and i wouldn't charge for it. call it services to the club. (but i'm not a travelling service, if you want it you got to come to me) p.s. my job opened up a whole lot of eyes on the mr2roc forum when they found out what i had access to )

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4th February 2008, 22:22	#342 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 874 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	is the chrome key ring at the bottom metal or chrome plated plastic?

5th February 2008, 09:21	#343 (permalink)
csmcqueen Civic's got Big Booty ! Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 11th January 2008 Location: Corby, Northants, UK Posts: 152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I suspected you may have to solder it to the main board, but not a big task as its only 2 wires (I would use a thin kynar 30awg wire). You will have exactly the same problem with the bentley style keys because of the flip mechanism so that will probably put a lot of people off (unless they want to take them to someone else to solder for them). BTW Stef - Good job, looks much better than the original but I didnt realise it was quite that big.

5th February 2008, 11:03	#344 (permalink)
babyjoe Wheelnut Join Date: 1st November 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Isn't it possible to ask the chinese factory to incorporate the chip as much to the front as possible?

5th February 2008, 15:41	#348 (permalink)
eighteentee Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 26th September 2007 Location: Clitheroe, UK Posts: 102 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I suppose the burning question for those of us who got an eBay flip key is- is it worth the hassle of hacking the existing key to make it work in the flip housing? For me personally I'm ok with soldering irons and snips so it ain't going to bother me that much...

5th February 2008, 19:42	#350 (permalink)
Stef Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th October 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 357 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	For those that are waiting for the Ebay Flip key; Do not let jou take away with the first impresion, it looks like a cheap plastic box. Wait untill it is completely assembled to judge the key. Then it will look like in my pictures.

5th February 2008, 22:48	#351 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 874 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	how is the flick out part made? only asking as i dont want to go to the trouble of removing the transponer, only to find the flick out key part has packed up after a few months.

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woody2k4 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th December 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 228 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	slick i may hold you to that offer!

6th February 2008, 23:56	#355 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 874 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	If you open the key, the flip mechanism releases itself, you will have to rewind the spring, upon assembly.[/quote] so the key does flick out by pressing the button, just like the vw type?