Who wants a flip key? - Page 19

XCGuard · 7th February 2008, 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stef

I work with Chinese every day
It will take a while to make all the moulds (plastic parts, metal parts, stickers..)
The test runs, corrections...

Who will pay for the moulds? My estimation they will cost about 3000€ and they need payment in advance!

So it could take a while. 3 - 6mnth

Anyhow the transponder MUST be moved to the front of the key, there is NO other way.

I hope you are wrong about the 3-6 months! They are shut this week for their new year. We will have to see what they come up with mid Feb as they promised.
If you read my posts towards the start of this thread you will note I was willing to pay for the moulding from my pocket as long as there was enough interest from people wanting to buy it, which was why I started the poll.
They are a major manufacturer of all sorts of alarms and car electrical components including remotes and flip keys so I should think they know what they are talking about.

Time will tell whether your estimation of the timescales are right, but I hope they can produce quicker than that.

Naasir.

Stef · 7th February 2008, 16:52

My estimate is based on "if they start now" I have no idea what stage they are in.
Like I wrote, I produce in far east China and TW. If somebody there can concentrate only on this project, it could go a bit faster... Hope so.

Stef · 7th February 2008, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbieee

I am confused

Are you building a flip key too stef?

Nop, Just tested the Ebay one, and shared my experience with producing in Far East.
HONDA SWITCHBLADE REMOTE KEY CONVERSION CASE 2 BUTTON on eBay, also, Honda, Car Parts, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 13-Feb-08 06:27:22 GMT)

Robbieee · 7th February 2008, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stef

Nop, Just tested the Ebay one, and shared my experience with producing in Far East.
HONDA SWITCHBLADE REMOTE KEY CONVERSION CASE 2 BUTTON on eBay, also, Honda, Car Parts, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 13-Feb-08 06:27:22 GMT)

Oh right sorry, thought u were building one too hehe.

Quote:

I hope you are wrong about the 3-6 months! They are shut this week for their new year. We will have to see what they come up with mid Feb as they promised.
If you read my posts towards the start of this thread you will note I was willing to pay for the moulding from my pocket as long as there was enough interest from people wanting to buy it, which was why I started the poll.
They are a major manufacturer of all sorts of alarms and car electrical components including remotes and flip keys so I should think they know what they are talking about.

Time will tell whether your estimation of the timescales are right, but I hope they can produce quicker than that.

Naasir.

What size will the bently one be? same as the ebay one?

FWH · 9th February 2008, 13:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by XCGuard

I hope you are wrong about the 3-6 months! They are shut this week for their new year. We will have to see what they come up with mid Feb as they promised.

I have had some tools made faster, down to 3-4 weeks to first sample from approved print.

But usually it is 3-6 months from approved print to first production run.

Not always certain the first sample is correct.

I have also been wondering about the up front tooling costs in this project.

Dimplyred · 9th February 2008, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by FWH

I have had some tools made faster, down to 3-4 weeks to first sample from approved print.

But usually it is 3-6 months from approved print to first production run.

Not always certain the first sample is correct.

I have also been wondering about the up front tooling costs in this project.

Me too they are not cheap..

woody2k4 · 10th February 2008, 13:21

Hi all, i've not been on for a while to check this thread, What the progress?

XCGuard · 10th February 2008, 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by woody2k4

Hi all, i've not been on for a while to check this thread, What the progress?

The firm was shut this week for the Chinese new year, reopening Tomorrow or Tuesday. Should finish designing it and hopefully produce an actual key by the end of coming week.

For those that are worried about who is going to pay for production of this key; it will be me, as I said towards the start of this thread. Aslong as 150-180 keys sell then the process will pay for itself. Going by the amount of interest this figure should be easily reached.

360° · 13th February 2008, 11:10

put me down for 2 as well, if your willing to ship to switzerland.

ante00 · 13th February 2008, 12:49

any news XCGuard?

apapageo · 13th February 2008, 13:22

I'd take 2 definitly

dudesterlang · 13th February 2008, 21:02

Count me in. But I don't understand how you would get our keys to be converted other than sending them in the post or is it a DIY affair. Call me a sceptic but I wouldn't be too keen on sending my car key in the post for someone to mess with. I will vote yes on your survey but it's gotta be a safe option.

I half expected to get a sheath to strap to my belt to keep my key in.

Jack The Lad. · 13th February 2008, 21:25

If it happens, it will be a case of removing the inner gizmo from your existing key and installing it in the flip key.
You will then need to take it to your local keycutter to copy it from your existing key.
You won't loose site of it mate.

Stef · 14th February 2008, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Lad.

If it happens, it will be a case of removing the inner gizmo from your existing key and installing it in the flip key.
You will then need to take it to your local keycutter to copy it from your existing key.
You won't loose site of it mate.

Forget it:
There is a 99% chance that the transponder must be removed from the original board. This requires some special skills and tools.

Stef · 14th February 2008, 12:04

There is also hope that new Honda cars will come with flip keys, so an original upgrade could be possible...
see:

RDX flip key - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum

charlas · 14th February 2008, 12:32

Hmm, I wonder if our keys could have the 'Panic' button that the American market has activated? the solder pads are there for the switch? (if you look above, it's the 4 solder point's right on the bottom of the transponder PCB) as you can see from the below shot

babyjoe · 14th February 2008, 12:51

What does a panic button do?

charlas · 14th February 2008, 12:54

In the African/American markets it's common, it set's off the alarm after pressing it for a few moment's.

For people in car parks etc that get mugged/attacked whatnot.

Stef · 14th February 2008, 16:28

I tested this "hidden" panic putton with my previous car (CRV) but it did not work.
Probably not implemented in the car software.
Did not test it yet with the Civic.

charlas · 14th February 2008, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stef

I tested this "hidden" panic putton with my previous car (CRV) but it did not work.
Probably not implemented in the car software.
Did not test it yet with the Civic.

I shall have a play tonight then

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Stef Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th October 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 367 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	My estimate is based on "if they start now" I have no idea what stage they are in. Like I wrote, I produce in far east China and TW. If somebody there can concentrate only on this project, it could go a bit faster... Hope so.

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360° Valve Cap Join Date: 20th February 2007 Location: Switzerland Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	put me down for 2 as well, if your willing to ship to switzerland.

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apapageo Valve Cap Join Date: 10th July 2007 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'd take 2 definitly

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dudesterlang Valve Cap Join Date: 13th February 2008 Location: Leeds Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Count me in. But I don't understand how you would get our keys to be converted other than sending them in the post or is it a DIY affair. Call me a sceptic but I wouldn't be too keen on sending my car key in the post for someone to mess with. I will vote yes on your survey but it's gotta be a safe option. I half expected to get a sheath to strap to my belt to keep my key in.

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Jack The Lad. Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 1,597 Thanks: 1 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts iTrader: (0)	If it happens, it will be a case of removing the inner gizmo from your existing key and installing it in the flip key. You will then need to take it to your local keycutter to copy it from your existing key. You won't loose site of it mate.

14th February 2008, 12:04	#375 (permalink)
Stef Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th October 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 367 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	There is also hope that new Honda cars will come with flip keys, so an original upgrade could be possible... see: RDX flip key - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum

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babyjoe Wheelnut Join Date: 1st November 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 81 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	What does a panic button do?

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charlas i-VTEC Junkie Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 29th January 2008 Location: Leics/Warwick Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	In the African/American markets it's common, it set's off the alarm after pressing it for a few moment's. For people in car parks etc that get mugged/attacked whatnot.

14th February 2008, 16:28	#379 (permalink)
Stef Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th October 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 367 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I tested this "hidden" panic putton with my previous car (CRV) but it did not work. Probably not implemented in the car software. Did not test it yet with the Civic.