: Auto Express - Pedestrian Safety - Page 2

FWH · 26th February 2008, 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by GHGH

Here they got fewer of them around - maybe different type of buyers.

Here there is a work around - fit a row of extra driving lights to the bull bar and call it a bracket...

GHGH · 27th February 2008, 07:53

Oh, haven't noticed that - will have a look around.

Unknownsoldier · 27th February 2008, 08:06

Personally never thought bull-bars (Or Roo bars) made much difference, get hit by 2 tonne lump of steel moving 40mph with or without a 4 pound bit of metal welded to the front, it's gonna hurt either way.

Tom

alanwalne · 27th February 2008, 08:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

Personally never thought bull-bars (Or Roo bars) made much difference, get hit by 2 tonne lump of steel moving 40mph with or without a 4 pound bit of metal welded to the front, it's gonna hurt either way.

Tom

The problem with bull bars is that they apply the force to a small area of the body and thay do not deform. This makes the accelerative forces applied to the unfortunate pedestrian much higher.

Unknownsoldier · 27th February 2008, 08:15

Ahhhh, simple way round that, don't get hit by them

. Some people do need bars though for safety.

Tom

NH Dan · 27th February 2008, 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

Ahhhh, simple way round that, don't get hit by them

. Some people do need bars though for safety.

Tom

By the name alone you can tell what and why they WERE useful, Bull or 'Roo bars are for deflecting large animals away from the from of a vehicle and defending the vehicle, NOT the animal that was struck.

Yes, getting stuck by a car/4x4/whatever, isn't going to be a pretty event but at low impact speeds, the damage done by steel tubing is massively greater than modern day, impact absorbing bumpers/front ends.

Plus, they look as naff as heck anyway lol

GHGH · 27th February 2008, 12:41

I'm not so sure they help much if you hit a moose, having 2m shoulder height.

Unknownsoldier · 27th February 2008, 14:05

Should have seen my ex, I'd have that moose be hit by bull bars anyday.

Tom

FWH · 27th February 2008, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

Some people do need bars though for safety.

Tom

I need a bar, but not sure if it has anything to do with safety.

TTDegs · 27th February 2008, 19:02

At 40mph, having bull bars or not probably isn't going to make much difference to the pedestrian

At 10mph though, a ped hit by a 4x4 (on the grounds they're normally the ones with bars fitted)...
no bars = ped will probably bounce off the bonnet and walk away
bars = ped probably won't even be walking anywhere ever again

especially if it's a kid who's head is bull bar level...

l-noel · 28th February 2008, 08:35

That's sure but the 4x4 will be scratch free... Isn't that the owner is looking for ? He has not to pay attention at other's safety ?

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This thread is about: Auto Express - Pedestrian Safety, it's in General Discussion at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Originally Posted by GHGH Here they got fewer of them around - maybe different type of buyers. Here there is a work around - fit ...

27th February 2008, 07:53	#22 (permalink)
GHGH TANSTAAFL! Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 13th March 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 920 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh, haven't noticed that - will have a look around.

27th February 2008, 08:06	#23 (permalink)
Unknownsoldier Smart Ase Civinfo guru* Join Date: 22nd September 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 2,062 Thanks: 26 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Personally never thought bull-bars (Or Roo bars) made much difference, get hit by 2 tonne lump of steel moving 40mph with or without a 4 pound bit of metal welded to the front, it's gonna hurt either way. Tom

27th February 2008, 08:15	#25 (permalink)
Unknownsoldier Smart Ase Civinfo guru* Join Date: 22nd September 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 2,062 Thanks: 26 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Ahhhh, simple way round that, don't get hit by them . Some people do need bars though for safety. Tom

27th February 2008, 12:41	#27 (permalink)
GHGH TANSTAAFL! Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 13th March 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 920 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm not so sure they help much if you hit a moose, having 2m shoulder height.

27th February 2008, 14:05	#28 (permalink)
Unknownsoldier Smart Ase Civinfo guru* Join Date: 22nd September 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 2,062 Thanks: 26 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Should have seen my ex, I'd have that moose be hit by bull bars anyday. Tom

27th February 2008, 19:02	#30 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	At 40mph, having bull bars or not probably isn't going to make much difference to the pedestrian At 10mph though, a ped hit by a 4x4 (on the grounds they're normally the ones with bars fitted)... no bars = ped will probably bounce off the bonnet and walk away bars = ped probably won't even be walking anywhere ever again especially if it's a kid who's head is bull bar level...