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[angie4m]

Originally Posted by Duecut

Have you got pictures of the damage?

I'm guessing your meaning of her car and not the ones at the top of the thread?

It looks rather Bad Pekwah1, I did see this earlier at work and was stuck behind a woman in an old Ford Escort estate who was alll over the road, usually in the middle and if not then right on the other side and that was with lines on the road!!!!!!

You can drive as carefully as you like, but if there is someone clearly not caring or paying attention (which would seem to be the case here if she didn't hear the horn its not that un-noticable it sounds gay and she didn't realise she was in the middle of the road ) then you can only try your best to avoid a situation but that isn't always possible

[Unknownsoldier]

I'm going to start carrying an air horn, it'll move people far faster than our car horn.

Tom

[subarup1]

I think he could have been carrying 'Cape Horn' and it wouldn’t have made a blind bit of difference...

Sub.

[robbo51]

Absolutely gutted for you.
Good luck getting it fixed and your insurance sorted!!

[grasey]

Did you ask the woman if she admitted liability, or did she say it was 50 50. I hope you sort the car out soon.

[l-noel]

Good luck to you for the insurance claim

I also hope the the angels in the Civic heaven are talented, and that you will found a "brand new" car

[Tamster's Civic Batmobile]

Hope you are alright!?
Sorry to see your car like that - what a mess!
Hope everything will sort out OK for you.

[LNT]

Yeah, sorry to hear about this. You should NEVER admit liability in an accident, no matter what. Never ever.

From the photo and looking at the bend, it wouldn't have been unreasonable to expect the other driver to have been almost in the middle of the road to see around the left hand bend. If you're on a right hander, the position would have been well into the left to see around the corner, and vice versa for the left hander. However, either or both of you must have forgotten the golden rule: When driving always make sure you're able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear. If it means reversing back to allow something through, so be it.

[TTDegs]

unfortunately, she could equally claim that she was on the left and that "the car coming the other way was cutting the corner"

It's going to be a tough one to win, but take lots and lots and lots of photos of everything (including any mud sprayed up the wheel arches on your passenger side, if there is any), that may help prove where you were, and where she must have been

[angie4m]

Originally Posted by LNT

You should NEVER admit liability in an accident, no matter what. Never ever.

I love this comment, some idiot said this to the guy who hit my Mum's car...the guy who hit it, then drove off! He had been seen and funnily enough they all have alloacted spaces. He held his hands up because quite frankly honestly is the best policy...but when there are pleanty of witnesses (like when the woman ran up the back of the M3) then basically you should hold your hands up.

I would have loved to have seen what she or yourself for that matter would have said to hitting a stationary car that was in a line of traffic that hadn't moved for 3 mins? Or a car parked stationary in a car park....would you have said no it wasn't my fault the car started and reversed its way into my path

Try having the shoe on the other foot, if someone hit you and they were in the wrong you would expect them to admit liabilty and make things as hassle free as possible! Treat others as you expect to be treated....doesn't always work like that but there is karma

[simon1]

Originally Posted by angie4m

I love this comment, some idiot said this to the guy who hit my Mum's car...the guy who hit it, then drove off! He had been seen and funnily enough they all have alloacted spaces. He held his hands up because quite frankly honestly is the best policy...but when there are pleanty of witnesses (like when the woman ran up the back of the M3) then basically you should hold your hands up.

I would have loved to have seen what she or yourself for that matter would have said to hitting a stationary car that was in a line of traffic that hadn't moved for 3 mins? Or a car parked stationary in a car park....would you have said no it wasn't my fault the car started and reversed its way into my path

Try having the shoe on the other foot, if someone hit you and they were in the wrong you would expect them to admit liabilty and make things as hassle free as possible! Treat others as you expect to be treated....doesn't always work like that but there is karma

The fact is that insurance companies all say that you should never admit liability. This doesn't mean that in the case you mention you should try and get away with it and lie. All it means is you don't admit any liability for legal reasons. When you swap details and submit your version of the events, it will then be clear who is at fault and it all gets settled. If I ran into a stationary car, I would never directly admit fault but I would be ready to make sure that my details go to the other driver and that I receive their details. I would not be trying to get away with it or trying to blame anyone else, simply play it in a neutral fashion and let the insurance co.s or the police work it all out.

[NEEMSTAR]

Originally Posted by angie4m

I love this comment, some idiot said this to the guy who hit my Mum's car...the guy who hit it, then drove off! He had been seen and funnily enough they all have alloacted spaces. He held his hands up because quite frankly honestly is the best policy...but when there are pleanty of witnesses (like when the woman ran up the back of the M3) then basically you should hold your hands up.

I would have loved to have seen what she or yourself for that matter would have said to hitting a stationary car that was in a line of traffic that hadn't moved for 3 mins? Or a car parked stationary in a car park....would you have said no it wasn't my fault the car started and reversed its way into my path

Try having the shoe on the other foot, if someone hit you and they were in the wrong you would expect them to admit liabilty and make things as hassle free as possible! Treat others as you expect to be treated....doesn't always work like that but there is karma

if the stationary car was parked on double yellows or obstructing traffic i would not admit liability

[LNT]

Thanks Simon, that's exactly what I meant. And Neemstar too, another good reason.

Ang, if you read my post correctly, you'll have read the part where I said "Never admit liability". I didn't say you should lie or be dishonest, or drive off without giving your details, or even say that it wasn't your fault if it was. The only requirement in law is to provide your details, so best practice is to do just that.

I would be mightily surprised in this day and age if anyone admitted liability to me after an accident in which I was involved, even if it was their fault. But if they didn't I wouldn't think any worse of them, I'd just know they were doing as they've been advised.

[dave525]

Originally Posted by NEEMSTAR

if the stationary car was parked on double yellows or obstructing traffic i would not admit liability

It would not matter if the car was parked sideways in the middle of the road and you smashed into it, it would still be your fault as my wife found out to her cost

[LNT]

Originally Posted by dave525

It would not matter if the car was parked sideways in the middle of the road and you smashed into it, it would still be your fault as my wife found out to her cost

Well it would matter. Every case is different, and we live in an age of litigation. The best litigators win cases a lot of the time.

The common thread here is that people are relating to their own experiences which doesn't give a balanced view, because those views are then borne out of bad experiences. Every case is different, and, for sure, if there's a vehicle which "Shouldn't" be there, there is at least some portion of blame to be attached to the driver who was negligent enough to leave it there. Might only be a small part, but the best litigators exploit any small loophole or piece of mitigation, so don't be fooled into thinking that anything is an open and shut case. Which is another reason why you shouldnt admit liability.

[civicfan]

I guess it is a case of whose lawyer is better, but you are probably better off with a 50/50 solution. C'est la vie...

[Duecut]

Originally Posted by angie4m

I'm guessing your meaning of her car and not the ones at the top of the thread?

Yes I ment both cars, I will admit I didnt see the pics when I posted as some images dont appear on my work PC.

The first thing I do after an accident (before swapping details) is grab the disposable camera that I keep in the glove box. Having picture of the accident also helps when writing up the inssurance claim later, as some details do get warped over time.

Having pic of their car also helps when (Ive had both of these):

1. The drive of the other car gives you a duff name and address because they aint bloody insured, this was before getting hit by and unisured drive was covered by insurance companies hence bye bye 3 years no claims

2. When you get an insurance claim in for £6000 for "swapping wing mirrors" cause the stupid git got back into the car and decided to play chicken with a parked tractor half way down the road, I didnt lose my no claims over this one.

[angie4m]

I took a video of the aftermath of the accident in September.......Just so you could get the full effect of the steam and noise of it coming from the car that hit us, along with the oil and water pee'ing out the bottom (My Dad gets a good laugh at it when he sees it).

Also filmed everything until the Police arrived as there were quite a few layabouts hanging about mouthing off at the fact that the cars were now causing an obstruction but the police had just been called and they told us Dont move the cars Just wanted to make sure that if they did try anything it was all on film.

The wonders of Modern technology. Its become my instinc now to capture everything like this on camera now before I do anything else.

[IWANTACIVIC]

sorry to hear about your damage mate glad your ok , hope your cars fixed soon

[NH Dan]

In a one on one incident with no witnesses, what would it matter whether someone admitted it or not?? there's no proof that anyone said anything.

On the other side of the coin, what's to stop you saying that the woman admitted that it was her fault and that she was in the wrong??? Absolutely nothing...