Im not too happy - Page 3

sambuca2907 · 1st April 2008, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topcat

If all he wants to do is sit an rev his engine he can do that with an adult sitting next to him !!

When children say things like;

"Im just going to accelerate very fast" that spells danger in my book

"Im not the best driver or the worst driver" No at the moment he is a learner driver which means he is inexperienced.

A Type R for his 21st - such a shame I always think you appreciate things in life so much more when you actually have to work for them !!

ha well put!

sambuca2907 · 1st April 2008, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iluvtobrevved

i mainly drive on country roads with few people around or cras and thay are quite straight so not much danger, i think?

"not so much danger"!!!!

Oh yeh the roads are quieter than normal roads... yeh good excuse to go nuts mate... ! lol Don't think so for some reason!

Have you taken a test yet??

Iluvtobrevved · 2nd April 2008, 10:53

i won't be a wreckless driver because wright now i drive with my ma and don't go avove 40 cos she screams at me if i do, and this will probably continue when i pass as i don't won't to wreck my car as i am paying for it by working ver y hard. and i will post some pics to prove it's not an april fools joke like some *** think.

Krysten CTR · 2nd April 2008, 13:55

Come on everybody. Play nice. I'm sure that Iluv's Mum will do far more damage to Iluv than we could if he even scratches the car, let alone crash it.

We were all 17 once and had to learn and gain experience at some point.

Iluv - It's not about what you think you know when driving a car, after all any muppet can get a driving licence these days. It's about how you handle the unexpected problems and having the ability to say no to your peer group, even if it makes you look a woose (in their eyes). But it will mean you wouldn't be a Fatal statistic (like your friends) and you'll have a beautiful Civic for a long time. Or until your 21st birthday when its CTR time.

If you trash the Sport do you think you'll get a CTR???

Marc_Type_S · 2nd April 2008, 18:46

Awaiting "i just put my car into a ditch" post....

LNT · 2nd April 2008, 18:52

If, (and it's a big if) Iluv ISN'T a troll, I suspect that with a brand new Civic, he'll be held in more esteem than the 106/saxo/corsa/clio drivers who spend loads tarting up crap cars and end up making them look cheaper than they are already.

But like I say, it's a big if. In any case, it will only be a couple of months before he gets the requisite 6 points to ban him so we'll all be safe soon enough. *

*an ironic post because it's all hypothetical.

Topcat · 2nd April 2008, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by LNT

If, (and it's a big if) Iluv ISN'T a troll, I suspect that with a brand new Civic, he'll be held in more esteem than the 106/saxo/corsa/clio drivers who spend loads tarting up crap cars and end up making them look cheaper than they are already.

But I would feel a lot safer (especially on motorways and dual carriageways) if I had a 17yr old in a naff looking car with an under powered engine than in a car with the performance of the 1.8 civic.

You can get some nice looking cars with smaller engines surely even a 1.4 civic would have been the more sensible option for a first car? I dread to think what the insurance must be!!

philip3600 · 2nd April 2008, 19:24

It's not like it's the most powerful car in the world. I know 18 year olds driving around in dads porsche or maserati. I don't see any problem if you don't act crazy and leave VSA on.

Hartside · 2nd April 2008, 19:29

Insurance costs for a 17 year old are astronomical for one reason - they are a huge risk!

J. Derek Riddell · 2nd April 2008, 19:33

Well - here's my 'tuppence worth' (tuppence is 2 old pennies - i.e 2/240th. of £1.00 - d*mn - there can't be all that many people here who know that !) ...

Anyway, nothing wrong with stretching (i.e. improving) one's driving experience \ capability \ skills - BUT - I have to agree that a 1.8 i-VTEC Civic could be a little too much for a new driver ...

Having said that, much - if not all - depends on 'cultural' factors, i.e. family and friends and peer group influence, as well as individual 'predeliction' ...

Personally, I started on a (even then) old Vauxhall Viva, supplied by my Father ...

Obviously, I then knew that I was "race standard", so my next car - this bought by me - was a Triumph Spitfire (by the way - it was a 'babe-magnet'), which I proceeded to thrash for some 6 months, until I rolled it and wrote it off ! ...

No damage to me, but the damage to my car insurance record and subsequent premiums was absolutely gob-smacking (annual 3rd. party cost was the same as the price for my - much more mundane - next car) ...

By the way, I was in the UK over Easter with my Norwegian 1.8 EX Civic and discovered (driving from Newcastle to Glasgow) that my motorway driving had seriously deteriorated, due to driving for years at (low) Norwegian limits ...

However, on the way back, all was well ! - reflexes \ anticipation \ physical control all came back without any stress - and I can report that there was almost nothing that could out-accelerate the Civic from an A1 roundabout - oh happy days ...

So, to conclude, let our 17 year old correspondent take care and enjoy ! ...

woody2k4 · 2nd April 2008, 19:58

right chaps, this post is going nowhere! Ok he is 17, ok he is lucky to get this car and prob does not realise how lucky he is, ok he may seem a bit cocky and jack the lad! But . . . . . i'm 21 and by the end of this year i will have 5 years no claims (i hope / im touching wood)

Just because some young drivers do drive like idiots does not mean we all do. Now surely lets end these pointless ramblings and and abusing iluv and stereotyping us young drivers

angie4m · 2nd April 2008, 20:35

Doesn't matter what you put someone in, if they are in the mind set that they are Lewis Hamilton then they will always put pedal to the metal in a wee 106/saxo etc. Jings there is a lad on this site who has a 1.4 and me and another forum user did wonder who he was trying to impress with his speeding around a car park, because it wasn't us thats for sure.

Driving on country roads about here isn't safe and if thats what he thinks then he'll soon find out the hard way.

Anyways, they've also put up a post asking how much they would get for this car so take from that what you will.

DeanFYoung · 2nd April 2008, 20:40

Young dumb and...full of something....

Its nice to get a new car at 17, at least you are getting used to the car before hand....be careful out there...

robbo51 · 2nd April 2008, 20:52

Time to leave him alone I think guys.
If anything, have a go at his parents...
However.... Just a quiet word....
Please be careful lad.....
I hope your driving isn’t as bad as your typing.........!

woody2k4 · 2nd April 2008, 20:53

take it no one had ready my last post

J. Derek Riddell · 2nd April 2008, 21:04

Ummm ... we didn't all abuse young drivers ...

In fact, some of us have confessed to once being just that ...

So - yes - very lucky indeed to have a Civic at 17 ! ...

Live long and prosper (and don't bug*er-up your insurance) ...

angie4m · 2nd April 2008, 21:04

We did Woody and I know what your saying, Jings I had a Cooper S when I was 17 and no accidents (touch wood) but i'm not sure if your aware (probably not) but every weekend without fail some young lads who have recently passed their test and are inexperianced lose their life on the roads up here! And its the roads that I drive on that he will be driving on!

The other week one lad managed to wipe himself out in his Ford Puma along with a 8 year old boy, his aunty and his grandmother left fighting for her life in Hospital. Wet road, going too fast on the other side of the road round a bend, inexperianced and he has ruined God knows how many peoples lives for what? I know that Essex has its fair share of boy racers but it doesn't seem to matter what they do up here, they just don't listen!

J. Derek Riddell · 2nd April 2008, 21:15

Arrggghhh - 'Jim Lad' ...

I once was one - or thought I was ...

But, this was then in the north of Scotland - not great roads - but not then exactly over-endowed with excess vehicles either ..

However, it was a great place to aquire driving skills, since a 30 mile trip could then encounter almost every type of situation imaginable ...

Anyway, I enjoyed it, BUT, it didn't prepare me for UK motorways at all ! ...

That's a quite different set of skills and all new drivers need \ should appreciate that (including dual carriageways such as on the A1) ...

angie4m · 2nd April 2008, 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Derek Riddell

That's a quite different set of skills and all new drivers need \ should appreciate that (including dual carriageways such as on the A1) ...

When learning to drive up here you are taken out onto the A1 and or the Edinburgh City Bypass, both like Whacky Races (the A1 is at the back of my house) but you don't see learners on these roads at peak times which is good because it would be far too dangerous for them, but also doesn't give them a chance to learn just what its really like out there sometimes.

But then there is always the Pass Plus

J. Derek Riddell · 2nd April 2008, 21:42

ANGIE4M ...

Agreed ... the Edinburgh bypass & the A1 (near Edinburgh) are often 'scary' ...

That is, no place whatsoever for learner drivers (of any age or nationality) ...

But, the A1 further south (despite the ubiquitous roadside warnings) isn't so bad ...

Plus, with Norwegian plates, I was able to ignore all the speed cameras ! ...

Yes - I drove responsibly - in accordance to the road \ weather \ traffic status ...

But, it wasn't half fun ...

2nd April 2008, 21:04	#57 (permalink)
angie4m Moved on Civinfo guru Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,772 Thanks: 17 Thanked 32 Times in 32 Posts iTrader: (0)	We did Woody and I know what your saying, Jings I had a Cooper S when I was 17 and no accidents (touch wood) but i'm not sure if your aware (probably not) but every weekend without fail some young lads who have recently passed their test and are inexperianced lose their life on the roads up here! And its the roads that I drive on that he will be driving on! The other week one lad managed to wipe himself out in his Ford Puma along with a 8 year old boy, his aunty and his grandmother left fighting for her life in Hospital. Wet road, going too fast on the other side of the road round a bend, inexperianced and he has ruined God knows how many peoples lives for what? I know that Essex has its fair share of boy racers but it doesn't seem to matter what they do up here, they just don't listen! Last edited by angie4m; 2nd April 2008 at 21:07.

2nd April 2008, 21:15	#58 (permalink)
J. Derek Riddell [ Drinks with Baboons ] Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 8th November 2007 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 445 Thanks: 6 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (0)	Boy Racers Arrggghhh - 'Jim Lad' ... I once was one - or thought I was ... But, this was then in the north of Scotland - not great roads - but not then exactly over-endowed with excess vehicles either .. However, it was a great place to aquire driving skills, since a 30 mile trip could then encounter almost every type of situation imaginable ... Anyway, I enjoyed it, BUT, it didn't prepare me for UK motorways at all ! ... That's a quite different set of skills and all new drivers need \ should appreciate that (including dual carriageways such as on the A1) ...

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This thread is about: Im not too happy, it's in General Discussion at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Originally Posted by Topcat If all he wants to do is sit an rev his engine he can do that with an adult sitting next ...

2nd April 2008, 10:53	#43 (permalink)
Iluvtobrevved Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 30th March 2008 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	i won't be a wreckless driver because wright now i drive with my ma and don't go avove 40 cos she screams at me if i do, and this will probably continue when i pass as i don't won't to wreck my car as i am paying for it by working ver y hard. and i will post some pics to prove it's not an april fools joke like some *** think.

2nd April 2008, 13:55	#44 (permalink)
Krysten CTR P1259 ODB-II Wheelnut Join Date: 27th January 2008 Location: UK Posts: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Come on everybody. Play nice. I'm sure that Iluv's Mum will do far more damage to Iluv than we could if he even scratches the car, let alone crash it. We were all 17 once and had to learn and gain experience at some point. Iluv - It's not about what you think you know when driving a car, after all any muppet can get a driving licence these days. It's about how you handle the unexpected problems and having the ability to say no to your peer group, even if it makes you look a woose (in their eyes). But it will mean you wouldn't be a Fatal statistic (like your friends) and you'll have a beautiful Civic for a long time. Or until your 21st birthday when its CTR time. If you trash the Sport do you think you'll get a CTR???

2nd April 2008, 18:46	#45 (permalink)
Marc_Type_S Valve Cap Join Date: 29th February 2008 Location: falkirk Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Awaiting "i just put my car into a ditch" post....

2nd April 2008, 18:52	#46 (permalink)
LNT Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th March 2007 Location: England Posts: 224 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	If, (and it's a big if) Iluv ISN'T a troll, I suspect that with a brand new Civic, he'll be held in more esteem than the 106/saxo/corsa/clio drivers who spend loads tarting up crap cars and end up making them look cheaper than they are already. But like I say, it's a big if. In any case, it will only be a couple of months before he gets the requisite 6 points to ban him so we'll all be safe soon enough. * *an ironic post because it's all hypothetical.

2nd April 2008, 19:24	#48 (permalink)
philip3600 Wheelnut Join Date: 6th January 2007 Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	It's not like it's the most powerful car in the world. I know 18 year olds driving around in dads porsche or maserati. I don't see any problem if you don't act crazy and leave VSA on.

2nd April 2008, 19:29	#49 (permalink)
Hartside Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Northumberland Posts: 563 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Insurance costs for a 17 year old are astronomical for one reason - they are a huge risk!

2nd April 2008, 19:33	#50 (permalink)
J. Derek Riddell [ Drinks with Baboons ] Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 8th November 2007 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 445 Thanks: 6 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (0)	Well - here's my 'tuppence worth' (tuppence is 2 old pennies - i.e 2/240th. of £1.00 - dmn - there can't be all that many people here who know that !) ... Anyway, nothing wrong with stretching (i.e. improving) one's driving experience \ capability \ skills - BUT - I have to agree that a 1.8 i-VTEC Civic could be a little too much for a new driver ... Having said that, much - if not all - depends on 'cultural' factors, i.e. family and friends and peer group influence, as well as individual 'predeliction' ... Personally, I started on a (even then) old Vauxhall Viva, supplied by my Father ... Obviously, I then knew that I was "race standard", so my next car - this bought by me - was a Triumph Spitfire (by the way - it was a 'babe-magnet'), which I proceeded to thrash for some 6 months, until I rolled it and wrote it off ! ... No damage to me, but the damage to my car insurance record and subsequent premiums was absolutely gob-smacking (annual 3rd. party cost was the same as the price for my - much more mundane - next car) ... By the way, I was in the UK over Easter with my Norwegian 1.8 EX Civic and discovered (driving from Newcastle to Glasgow) that my motorway driving had seriously deteriorated, due to driving for years at (low) Norwegian limits ... However, on the way back, all was well ! - reflexes \ anticipation \ physical control all came back without any stress - and I can report that there was almost nothing that could out-accelerate the Civic from an A1 roundabout - oh happy days ... So, to conclude, let our 17 year old correspondent take care and* enjoy ! ...

2nd April 2008, 19:58	#51 (permalink)
woody2k4 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th December 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 235 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	right chaps, this post is going nowhere! Ok he is 17, ok he is lucky to get this car and prob does not realise how lucky he is, ok he may seem a bit cocky and jack the lad! But . . . . . i'm 21 and by the end of this year i will have 5 years no claims (i hope / im touching wood) Just because some young drivers do drive like idiots does not mean we all do. Now surely lets end these pointless ramblings and and abusing iluv and stereotyping us young drivers

2nd April 2008, 20:35	#52 (permalink)
angie4m Moved on Civinfo guru Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,772 Thanks: 17 Thanked 32 Times in 32 Posts iTrader: (0)	Doesn't matter what you put someone in, if they are in the mind set that they are Lewis Hamilton then they will always put pedal to the metal in a wee 106/saxo etc. Jings there is a lad on this site who has a 1.4 and me and another forum user did wonder who he was trying to impress with his speeding around a car park, because it wasn't us thats for sure. Driving on country roads about here isn't safe and if thats what he thinks then he'll soon find out the hard way. Anyways, they've also put up a post asking how much they would get for this car so take from that what you will.

2nd April 2008, 20:40	#53 (permalink)
DeanFYoung Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 19th June 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 571 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Young dumb and...full of something.... Its nice to get a new car at 17, at least you are getting used to the car before hand....be careful out there...

2nd April 2008, 20:52	#54 (permalink)
robbo51 It wasn’t me! Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 3,418 Thanks: 57 Thanked 54 Times in 51 Posts iTrader: (0)	Time to leave him alone I think guys. If anything, have a go at his parents... However.... Just a quiet word.... Please be careful lad..... I hope your driving isn’t as bad as your typing.........!

2nd April 2008, 20:53	#55 (permalink)
woody2k4 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th December 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 235 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	take it no one had ready my last post

2nd April 2008, 21:04	#56 (permalink)
J. Derek Riddell [ Drinks with Baboons ] Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 8th November 2007 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 445 Thanks: 6 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ummm ... we didn't all abuse young drivers ... In fact, some of us have confessed to once being just that ... So - yes - very lucky indeed to have a Civic at 17 ! ... Live long and prosper (and don't bug*er-up your insurance) ...

2nd April 2008, 21:42	#60 (permalink)
J. Derek Riddell [ Drinks with Baboons ] Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 8th November 2007 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 445 Thanks: 6 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (0)	ANGIE4M ... Agreed ... the Edinburgh bypass & the A1 (near Edinburgh) are often 'scary' ... That is, no place whatsoever for learner drivers (of any age or nationality) ... But, the A1 further south (despite the ubiquitous roadside warnings) isn't so bad ... Plus, with Norwegian plates, I was able to ignore all the speed cameras ! ... Yes - I drove responsibly - in accordance to the road \ weather \ traffic status ... But, it wasn't half fun ...