Im not too happy - Page 4

angie4m · 2nd April 2008, 21:44

You actually find yourself during your test being taken onto the A1 or City Bypass so they have to take you onto there during lessons

sambuca2907 · 3rd April 2008, 00:53

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Originally Posted by woody2k4

right chaps, this post is going nowhere! Ok he is 17, ok he is lucky to get this car and prob does not realise how lucky he is, ok he may seem a bit cocky and jack the lad! But . . . . . i'm 21 and by the end of this year i will have 5 years no claims (i hope / im touching wood)

Just because some young drivers do drive like idiots does not mean we all do. Now surely lets end these pointless ramblings and and abusing iluv and stereotyping us young drivers

Yep I agree! I am also 21 - and have never had an accident! So it's not ALL young drivers!

angie4m · 3rd April 2008, 08:11

But both you and Woody don't come on here sounding like arses!

TTDegs · 3rd April 2008, 11:36

To anyone who is thinking of replying to this thread - please read got off on the wrong foot

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TTDegs

STX1300man · 22nd April 2008, 22:09

Reading this thread, and not commenting on the original poster, but the subject matter.............

This is why we have ended up in the motorcycling world with enforced stages of progression. "When I were a boy"

you started on a Moped, or if you were "lucky" a Fizzie. You then progressed to a 250, then a 500 before reaching the dizzy heights of a 750. This "restraint" was mainly a financially enforced one. As bikes became more powerful, and relatively cheaper, the carnage increased and getting a motorcycle licence has become progressively more difficult/more time consuming/more hassle.

We now have a "fastrack" route called Direct Access Scheme (DAS). Take a one week course and then ride what you like. You can cram the theory but there is NO substitute for practical experience. I know the "chicken & egg" spring to mind, but if you saw some of the riders I do who have passed the ministry test......you'd be very afraid.

So what has this got to do with a 17 year old in a 1.8 VTEC Honda? Surely the time has come for similar "restrictions" to be put in place so that Johnny CAN'T drive daddy's Porche (or more likely "hot" company car) without some lmeasured evel of experience.

I realise there will always be some who get around the rules or just ignore them completely, but some level of retraint NEEDS to be bought about by some means.

Finally everybody can benifit from further learning after the ministry test. Official instructors run "Pass Plus" while many organisations (IAM, ROSPA etc) run local groups on a volunatry basis. Join one you never know you may enjoy it, Most of the bike groups have thrown out the "pipe and slippers" years ago, and the car groups are gradually improving

Vet_2010 · 22nd April 2008, 22:23

You just missed an interesting discussion on this last week! Should make some good reading if you like...

Younger drivers - Posts split from Type R insurance

STX1300man · 22nd April 2008, 23:17

An interesting topic. I missed it as it got tucked away

I had to speed read (ignoring the chaff), but some good points made from both sides of the fence.

My stance would be:-

1. Graded licenses for ALL (bikes/cars/etc).
2. Repeat testing for ALL (5 yearly).
3. Compulsary medical from 60 by an independant practioner NOT your GP.
4. Oh, and lots MORE traffic police who can spot dangerours driving/riding that no camera ever can.

Yes, it would cost a fortune, but how much does each fatal accident cost financially, with police, ambulance, docters etc. and the now obligatry road closure? That in no way is forgetting the tragedy to those involved or close to those involved.

angie4m · 23rd April 2008, 12:13

Shame he can't actually drive yet as Lothian and Borders Police are holding driving experiance days for 17-25 year olds. Get to do training with the old traffic cops, skidpans etc. They are also offereing someone the chance of a trackday at Knockhill.

There was a problem over xmas with under 25's and over 50's with the old Drink driving, not wearing seatbelts and using mobile phones while driving, oh and speeding and they are targeting young drivers at the moment. Actually quite responsible of them

Woette · 25th April 2008, 19:19

this thread more reads like an attack on young drivers!!!
I think its a shame!! The guy is just happy with his own car and yes he wants to give it a good burst of revs, SO WHAT???? We didn't bought our 1.8 vtec's to push them forward... and it has 138 BHP for a reason.
There are youngsters who drive crazy but the older people are as dangerous to me. Its more an attitude problem then an age problem.
Statistics show us that young drivers have higher risks of crashing due to a lack in experience. But IF they crash, its not always because they were driving like a nutter. Accidents CAN happen and thats why we all have to get insurances for our cars (i found out one month ago

) So why dont we let him get his license first and if something should happen, then lets hope no one else is involved.
Driving a car is a huge responsability and that is something that each 'learning' driver knows.... or should know at least

allan79 · 25th April 2008, 20:00

lol the guy aint even passed his test yet and is getting crap and you all make it sound like the 18v-tech is a fast car mmmmmm maybe mine needs a good tune lol

22nd April 2008, 22:09	#65 (permalink)
STX1300man Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 17th September 2006 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Staggered Licenses Anyone Reading this thread, and not commenting on the original poster, but the subject matter............. This is why we have ended up in the motorcycling world with enforced stages of progression. "When I were a boy" you started on a Moped, or if you were "lucky" a Fizzie. You then progressed to a 250, then a 500 before reaching the dizzy heights of a 750. This "restraint" was mainly a financially enforced one. As bikes became more powerful, and relatively cheaper, the carnage increased and getting a motorcycle licence has become progressively more difficult/more time consuming/more hassle. We now have a "fastrack" route called Direct Access Scheme (DAS). Take a one week course and then ride what you like. You can cram the theory but there is NO substitute for practical experience. I know the "chicken & egg" spring to mind, but if you saw some of the riders I do who have passed the ministry test......you'd be very afraid. So what has this got to do with a 17 year old in a 1.8 VTEC Honda? Surely the time has come for similar "restrictions" to be put in place so that Johnny CAN'T drive daddy's Porche (or more likely "hot" company car) without some lmeasured evel of experience. I realise there will always be some who get around the rules or just ignore them completely, but some level of retraint NEEDS to be bought about by some means. Finally everybody can benifit from further learning after the ministry test. Official instructors run "Pass Plus" while many organisations (IAM, ROSPA etc) run local groups on a volunatry basis. Join one you never know you may enjoy it, Most of the bike groups have thrown out the "pipe and slippers" years ago, and the car groups are gradually improving

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2nd April 2008, 21:44	#61 (permalink)
angie4m Why Do I bother? Civinfo guru Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,749 Thanks: 17 Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	You actually find yourself during your test being taken onto the A1 or City Bypass so they have to take you onto there during lessons

3rd April 2008, 08:11	#63 (permalink)
angie4m Why Do I bother? Civinfo guru Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,749 Thanks: 17 Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	But both you and Woody don't come on here sounding like arses!

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TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	To anyone who is thinking of replying to this thread - please read got off on the wrong foot many thanks TTDegs

22nd April 2008, 22:23	#66 (permalink)
Vet_2010 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 19th December 2007 Location: Northern Ireland / Glasgow Posts: 326 Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader: (0)	You just missed an interesting discussion on this last week! Should make some good reading if you like... Younger drivers - Posts split from Type R insurance

22nd April 2008, 23:17	#67 (permalink)
STX1300man Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 17th September 2006 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	An interesting topic. I missed it as it got tucked away I had to speed read (ignoring the chaff), but some good points made from both sides of the fence. My stance would be:- 1. Graded licenses for ALL (bikes/cars/etc). 2. Repeat testing for ALL (5 yearly). 3. Compulsary medical from 60 by an independant practioner NOT your GP. 4. Oh, and lots MORE traffic police who can spot dangerours driving/riding that no camera ever can. Yes, it would cost a fortune, but how much does each fatal accident cost financially, with police, ambulance, docters etc. and the now obligatry road closure? That in no way is forgetting the tragedy to those involved or close to those involved.

23rd April 2008, 12:13	#68 (permalink)
angie4m Why Do I bother? Civinfo guru Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,749 Thanks: 17 Thanked 31 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	Shame he can't actually drive yet as Lothian and Borders Police are holding driving experiance days for 17-25 year olds. Get to do training with the old traffic cops, skidpans etc. They are also offereing someone the chance of a trackday at Knockhill. There was a problem over xmas with under 25's and over 50's with the old Drink driving, not wearing seatbelts and using mobile phones while driving, oh and speeding and they are targeting young drivers at the moment. Actually quite responsible of them

25th April 2008, 19:19	#69 (permalink)
Woette Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 7th October 2007 Location: Leuven, Belgium Posts: 295 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	this thread more reads like an attack on young drivers!!! I think its a shame!! The guy is just happy with his own car and yes he wants to give it a good burst of revs, SO WHAT???? We didn't bought our 1.8 vtec's to push them forward... and it has 138 BHP for a reason. There are youngsters who drive crazy but the older people are as dangerous to me. Its more an attitude problem then an age problem. Statistics show us that young drivers have higher risks of crashing due to a lack in experience. But IF they crash, its not always because they were driving like a nutter. Accidents CAN happen and thats why we all have to get insurances for our cars (i found out one month ago ) So why dont we let him get his license first and if something should happen, then lets hope no one else is involved. Driving a car is a huge responsability and that is something that each 'learning' driver knows.... or should know at least

25th April 2008, 20:00	#70 (permalink)
allan79 Wheelnut Join Date: 19th May 2007 Posts: 74 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	lol the guy aint even passed his test yet and is getting crap and you all make it sound like the 18v-tech is a fast car mmmmmm maybe mine needs a good tune lol