Petrol prices and floodgates

[HappyMan]

Originally Posted by NH Dan

Just read in the news that some thieving git in Fife has been charging £1.45 for diesel and £1.25 for unleaded!!!! he then blamed it on a computer error and dropped it by 5p !!!!

good of him to reduce it by 5p I guess - thieving scoundrel!

[angie4m]

Originally Posted by NH Dan

Just read in the news that some thieving git in Fife has been charging £1.45 for diesel and £1.25 for unleaded!!!! he then blamed it on a computer error and dropped it by 5p !!!!

Funnily enough I already mentioned that! And he dropped it back to £1.30. Was on Reporting Scotland at 6.30 today

Originally Posted by angie4m

It made the News tonight about a garage in Fife that was charging £1.45 per litre for Diesel! They then said the Computer had made a mistake and it was £1.30.....aye right then! They have been exposed on National TV for being robbing Bar Stewards and they know it! The only thing that made a mistake was the greedy owner thinking they could get away with it.

[shieldy2k7]

Originally Posted by robbo51

Thats a good one..
Why is it the 'fuel of satan'?
You've driven a 2.2 CTDi have you?

Nope but drove other diesels - but on top gear its the "fuel of satan" lol

[Kremmen]

Originally Posted by shieldy2k7

Nope but drove other diesels - but on top gear its the "fuel of satan" lol

I think of late even the 'not to be taken seriously' JC has praised some oil burners.

[alanwalne]

Originally Posted by TTDegs

I'm off to London tomorrow, for a works conferance in Earl's Court.

The top brass have made a big thing about it being the 'most eco-friendly conference we have ever had', and as such have 'strongly discouraged' us from driving there.

So instead of me doing my normal drive to Hammersmith (170 miles each way = 340 = 8 gallons = £40 max), I have to catch the train.

Off Peak ticket T&Cs say the train must arrive in London by 8:00am.
The 5:54 train from Cardiff arrives at Paddington at 8:01am.
The earlier one than that leaves at 5:15am


Off Peak Open Return is £57 (and I couldn't leave London until 7pm)
Normal Open Return is.... wait for it... £158

So I'm saving the planet (assuming that my share of the emmisions on the train is actually lower than the Civ will kick out), but costing the company an extra £120.
Plus the £10 it will no doubt cost for the cup of dodgy train coffee and microwaved lump of gristle ina bun LOL


anyho - enough for now, otherwise I'll be too wound up to sleep and end up missing the train anyway

As they are not laying an extra train on for you, not being the Queen and all that, the marginal emmissions for you travelling by train will be zero (assuming none are caused by the gristle in a stale bun)

[Foggy69]

Originally Posted by alanwalne

Angie

I agree, in the current developed world there is no need for Trade Unions. Trade Unions came about because of slavery and under 10 year olds up chimneys for 18 hour days. This is hardly the case now.

The highest level of hypocracy is that the current govenment is funded and partly run by the unions.

If there wasn't bad employers, we wouldn't need unions to look after the employees.

Sadly, the systematic destruction of the unions back in the 80's has left the British workforce open to some appalling exploitation by bosses.

And the previous government was funded and partially run by the bosses, so I see that as a bit of balance

[beepee]

Sorry, but am I the only one who finds it a bit ironic that the scots and their desire for home rule and "sod off sassenach the oil's all ours" are asking us "foreigners" to send them some petrol.

[Sandozer]

Originally Posted by beepee

Sorry, but am I the only one who finds it a bit ironic that the scots and their desire for home rule and "sod off sassenach the oil's all ours" are asking us "foreigners" to send them some petrol.

Politics on our excellent Civic forum , you have got the wrong forum friend.

[alanwalne]

Originally Posted by Foggy69

If there wasn't bad employers, we wouldn't need unions to look after the employees.

Sadly, the systematic destruction of the unions back in the 80's has left the British workforce open to some appalling exploitation by bosses.

And the previous government was funded and partially run by the bosses, so I see that as a bit of balance

Using unions for personal matters and to help individuals is one thing, but to use the public as pawns in your battles IMO is unacceptable.

Sorry, but the things unions are asking for like Final Salary Pensions are not available to joe public, like everyone else, if you don't like your job or conditions, vote with your feet, rather than using the public.

Back to my bunker now.

[stayrich]

Hi

I was talking to an executive from an oil company last week and he said that petrol will be at least £1.50 a litre by August and approaching £2.00 a litre by Xmas with diesel being even higher. We all have to realise that emerging economies are now swallowing precious resources that we in the west have taken for granted. The only hope we have in the UK is for the Government to reduce fuel duty but that leaves a huge hole in the public finances.

[HappyMan]

I think it is time the oil companies and the government finally got together and thrashed out a realistic way of reducing the ridiculously high petrol prices. Maybe it is time to reduce tax on petrol for once.

In the telegraph today it shows that a lot of the so called 'environmentally' induced ideas are doing NOTHING for the environment. The newly invented tax on cars is shown to reduce emissions by 1% - hardly worth it really!

In my view: New World, New Ideas!

[Glepor]

Originally Posted by stayrich

Hi

I was talking to an executive from an oil company last week and he said that petrol will be at least £1.50 a litre by August and approaching £2.00 a litre by Xmas with diesel being even higher. We all have to realise that emerging economies are now swallowing precious resources that we in the west have taken for granted. The only hope we have in the UK is for the Government to reduce fuel duty but that leaves a huge hole in the public finances.

Aah, but don't forget that every time the oil companies increase their price the Government gets an unbudgeted windfall in the shape of their 70% slice. Even if they cut the duty by 10% they would still be raking in the remaining duty and 17.5% VAT.

[bucketp]

Originally Posted by beepee

Sorry, but am I the only one who finds it a bit ironic that the scots and their desire for home rule and "sod off sassenach the oil's all ours" are asking us "foreigners" to send them some petrol.

Im English( and proud of it) but live in Scotland so can I have some please

[jazzman]

Originally Posted by Foggy69

If there wasn't bad employers, we wouldn't need unions to look after the employees.

Sadly, the systematic destruction of the unions back in the 80's has left the British workforce open to some appalling exploitation by bosses.

And the previous government was funded and partially run by the bosses, so I see that as a bit of balance

Thanks to the Unions the British motor industry went down the drain, or has that been forgotten

[Foggy69]

Originally Posted by alanwalne

Using unions for personal matters and to help individuals is one thing, but to use the public as pawns in your battles IMO is unacceptable.

Sorry, but the things unions are asking for like Final Salary Pensions are not available to joe public, like everyone else, if you don't like your job or conditions, vote with your feet, rather than using the public.

Back to my bunker now.

So what you are saying that managers have the right to treat people like s*it and to pay them peanuts. And if the worker doesn't like the way they are been treated, they have to leave, have the stress and worry of being unemployed whilst they try to to find another job.

And why should workers who have fought to keep Final Salary Pensions be demonised just because other workers in this country have said 'Yes please Mr. Boss, please take away my decent pension, and replace it with one that will pay out less when I retire, and by the way I don't mind working another 5 years to help pay for it'.

Originally Posted by jazzman

Thanks to the Unions the British motor industry went down the drain, or has that been forgotten

No it hasn't.
Union's were their own worst enemy at times, and they paid a very heavy price for the arrogance and ignorance they displayed back in the 1970's and 80's.

But should the mistakes of the past be always be associated with unions today. Unions were forced to make huge changes so that we can't just stop work at the drop of a hat.

I believe Honda in Swindon, Nissan in Sunderland and Toyota in Derby all have allowed unions to represent their employees. I would say that this means the attitudes on both sides have changed for the better.

[Foggy69]

Originally Posted by TTDegs

I'm off to London tomorrow, for a works conferance in Earl's Court.

Off Peak ticket T&Cs say the train must arrive in London by 8:00am.
The 5:54 train from Cardiff arrives at Paddington at 8:01am.
The earlier one than that leaves at 5:15am

Off Peak Open Return is £57 (and I couldn't leave London until 7pm)
Normal Open Return is.... wait for it... £158

So I'm saving the planet (assuming that my share of the emmisions on the train is actually lower than the Civ will kick out), but costing the company an extra £120.
Plus the £10 it will no doubt cost for the cup of dodgy train coffee and microwaved lump of gristle ina bun LOL


anyho - enough for now, otherwise I'll be too wound up to sleep and end up missing the train anyway

A day out with Worst Great Western, how nice

If I had noticed this last night, I could have told you that all FGW HST coaches now have 240v power sockets near each seat. No need to worry about the laptop going flat whilst working on the train, or watching a film. I hope you found this out today anyhow

And they do some nice marmalade biscuits as well.

[liamcalland]

Hang on, it's not just Scotland that will be affected. Us Notherners too will be hit, and at the last look at a map Yorkshire was well within England!!!!

[Rockair8]

Hi when I started driving in the good old days 1959 Jet petrol was five gallons for one pound. But we could only afford to buy ten shillings worth, now £1.50 could be really scary can the civ run on old chip oil.

[alanwalne]

Originally Posted by Foggy69

So what you are saying that managers have the right to treat people like s*it and to pay them peanuts. And if the worker doesn't like the way they are been treated, they have to leave, have the stress and worry of being unemployed whilst they try to to find another job.

And why should workers who have fought to keep Final Salary Pensions be demonised just because other workers in this country have said 'Yes please Mr. Boss, please take away my decent pension, and replace it with one that will pay out less when I retire, and by the way I don't mind working another 5 years to help pay for it'.

The main difference is that if I have a disagreement with my boss, I sort it out with my boss.

How would you like it if I made it that you could not get to work, or your whole life was disrupted because my boss changed working arrangements, often not as seriously for current employees (more complicated), but often for people who do not even work for the company yet.

IMO There is a big difference between the rights of long standing employees and employees who in some cases have not even started with the company yet. Even so the unions (if they have the clout they claim to) can sort things out without paralising the general public. Having to resort to strike shows weakness (or publicity seeking) by the union leaders.

Unions at internationally owned companies (like the one in Grangemouth) should be extra careful because they will have no connection to the British staff and if the refinery becomes uneconomic because of repeated industrial action the overseas management will find it very easy where to cut staff if the work can be done more cheaply overseas.

[TTDegs]

Originally Posted by alanwalne

As they are not laying an extra train on for you, not being the Queen and all that, the marginal emmissions for you travelling by train will be zero (assuming none are caused by the gristle in a stale bun)

LOL!
Actually, for sake of balance, the coffee and the bacon bap weren't too bad to be fair.
Had better - but also had a lot worse!

Originally Posted by Foggy69

A day out with Worst Great Western, how nice

If I had noticed this last night, I could have told you that all FGW HST coaches now have 240v power sockets near each seat. No need to worry about the laptop going flat whilst working on the train, or watching a film. I hope you found this out today anyhow

And they do some nice marmalade biscuits as well.

I did indeed Foggy, cheers

I didn't try the marmalade biscuits though!