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Old 25th April 2008, 10:38   #61 (permalink)
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The main difference is that if I have a disagreement with my boss, I sort it out with my boss.
So these people, instead of a strike, should all take a trip to the USA and negotiate, individually with the CEO. Or, do you mean, they should discuss their problem, individually, with someone specifically employed for their skill, and specialized training in employment disputes. No point in a union rep then.
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Old 25th April 2008, 10:59   #62 (permalink)
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So these people, instead of a strike, should all take a trip to the USA and negotiate, individually with the CEO. Or, do you mean, they should discuss their problem, individually, with someone specifically employed for their skill, and specialized training in employment disputes. No point in a union rep then.
I think you are taking what I was saying a bit literally.

I mean I would sort it out within the company rather than involving innocent members of the public who I hope you have no gripe with.
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Old 25th April 2008, 11:33   #63 (permalink)
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I think you are taking what I was saying a bit literally.

I mean I would sort it out within the company rather than involving innocent members of the public who I hope you have no gripe with.
No-one is legally bound to work. No employee HAS to go into work at any time. No alterations to the terms of thier employment need be accepted. They ARE sorting it out with thier boss. You're aggrevated that it causes disruption to the public. It's not the staffs fault thier greedy employer wants to cut thier benefits.
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Old 25th April 2008, 12:00   #64 (permalink)
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Sorry back to original thread, I was chuffed to find diesel at 116.9 per litre. Two weeks ago that price would have been a no way I am not filling up at that price......
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Even the most pessimistic analyses that I have seen claim we have only just passed peak oil in 2005/2007. It definitely didn't happen in the 1980s! The optimists talk about not reaching a peak until 2030 or later (the very optimistic reckon we'll plateau and demand will drop before supply does).

Nonetheless, prices are likely to generally go up because (1) inflation happens and (2) oil companies/oil states have a tight control on supply and rising prices are in their interest.
The optomistic forcasts are paid for by the oil companies. as for the demand plateau . China will double its energy consumption , and has bought up supplies all round the world to garantee supply
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Old 28th April 2008, 10:10   #66 (permalink)
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Public transport is no good for anyone like me, disabled using a wheelchair and a Labrador assistance dog in tow.

The trouble is politicians in this country have it too easy, where's Guy Fawkes when you need him!

Mind you, the French have the right idea, the lorries bring the place to standstill when they strike. We Brits are too weak willed to stand up for our rights, we let the government walk all over us.

I'm surprised that the disabled like me and the OAP's aren't rounded up by the government and given something to put us to sleep, we are seen as being of no use whatsoever.

About five years ago the cauliflower farmers went on strike here in Brittany to protest about the low prices they were achieving for their fine produce. They took their tractors and trailers to strategic roundabouts and rail crossings and deposited tonnes of vegetables thus blocking the routes.
Two gendarmes were sent to sort out the strikers and get transport moving again, but they were kidnapped by the farmers and taken to a remote farmstead where they were fed on cauliflowers for several days. Eventually the sous-prefect got involved and secured the gendarmes release, only for them to be arrested by their colleagues for 'allowing themselves to be kidnapped'.

Price of diesel here is 1,28Euros/litre = £1.01/litre
Petrol is about 20cents more expensive!
Don't forget that these prices include the old road fund duty now abolished in France!
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Old 29th April 2008, 14:45   #67 (permalink)
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Its amazing to see the difference in prices about the country. I have seen Petrol from 105.9p to 125.9p! (thats at a garage jus along the road from my home which was only 107.9 last Thursday) and Diesel from 1.13p to 129.9p (again the place along the road fro me) Most places seem to be 120.9p for diesel, but I did see a few places on te A1 charging 1.15p for the stuff.
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Old 29th April 2008, 14:52   #68 (permalink)
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And it has been reported today that Shell & BP are making in excess of £1b per month each in profit.

Trouble is we are prisoners to this global ripoff
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Old 29th April 2008, 14:55   #69 (permalink)
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Well i'm getting anything from 400 to 472 miles from my tank in the CTR, so the more I do that the less I have to visit the garage and the less money I give to the goverment and the oil companies
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Old 29th April 2008, 15:23   #70 (permalink)
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i know its not alot in the grand scheme of things but due to the fact i need a car for my job, i obviously have to fuel up as and when its needed, no matter what the market conditions. What I do make sure is that I NEVER buy anything other than fuel when i'm there. Let tehm create their billion pound profit elsewhere.

I'm also sick of going to petrol stations that are now mini supermarkets and being confronted by a queue of old ladies who've gone in to do their weekly shop when all i want is £10 of petrol too!!!
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I'm also sick of going to petrol stations that are now mini supermarkets and being confronted by a queue of old ladies who've gone in to do their weekly shop when all i want is £10 of petrol too!!!

Especially when they go at 5.00 to 5.30. They can go during the day when most people are at work.
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So these people, instead of a strike, should all take a trip to the USA and negotiate, individually with the CEO. Or, do you mean, they should discuss their problem, individually, with someone specifically employed for their skill, and specialized training in employment disputes. No point in a union rep then.
And there was me thinking that an HR department was there to do that.
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Price of diesel here is 1,28Euros/litre = £1.01/litre
Petrol is about 20cents more expensive!
Don't forget that these prices include the old road fund duty now abolished in France!
Right sod it, am off to live in France.
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Old 29th April 2008, 16:24   #74 (permalink)
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I don't even look anymore when I fill up, it's far too depressing.
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Old 29th April 2008, 16:30   #75 (permalink)
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What is the point of moaning about the cost of petrol and diesel, when we are being ripped off in everyday life with everything, companies making millions of profit but constantly putting prices up, the cost of food, Gas and Electricty, telephone services, clothing, new cars etc etc etc oh an on top of that how many times do we get taxed on our money, wages, savings, inheritance an the list goes on.

As for the strike, good luck to them an I hope they get what they want from it, lets face it the goverment's pension is almost worthless an certainly doesnt pay enough for old ladies to afford to do a weekly shop at these over priced petrol stations!!
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Well i'm getting anything from 400 to 472 miles from my tank in the CTR, so the more I do that the less I have to visit the garage and the less money I give to the goverment and the oil companies

Seeing as you have said before that your car sits for weeks on end on the driveway you should only have to fill up a couple of times a year
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Back to the original theme of the post, did anyone read this in The Times last Sunday, it is a myth that the world's oil supplies are running out.

Just an excuse to charge more!!!

It’s a myth that the world’s oil is running out - Times Online
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Old 29th April 2008, 17:44   #78 (permalink)
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Seeing as you have said before that your car sits for weeks on end on the driveway you should only have to fill up a couple of times a year
Ah but i'm planning on making more trips like the one i've just done. Going to do it all again in another week so that should rack up another 1000 miles or so
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Perhaps the UN should outlaw OPEC as the biggest cartel in the world. We could replace the war on Terror with the War On OPEC. They hold the world to ransom to the same level as a Martian Invasion.

And to add to that the spinless Government should tax on income (sorry that would penalise all their millionaire donors). I say that as I have bugger all income and high travel costs just to get to work.

If the fuel isn't bad enough, I've got Dick Turpin taking even more (already taxed) money off me at the Dartford Crossing twice a day. The Dartford Crossing is now a congestion charge as the crossing is now paid for. Great show me the Public Transport alternative then.

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Angie how are you gettin 400 to the tank?
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