Badge status

[19 milano]

OK. Must remember bin bags! Also some 'R Type' badges! Like a Type R but faster.

Don't worry, no offence (I'm 26!)

[TTDegs]

For the cars in question, "Type Rs" might be more appropriate...

Back on badge status...

erm...


Given the choice between a brand new one of these:

and a 3 year old one of these

which would you choose?

[angie4m]

I would go with the Freelander due to the fact, I like it in that colour and the car looks better...........Freelanders did take a bit of a slagging off when they had that Cyclinder head gasket issue with the 1.8 petrol models that the Rovers had and some folk still remember this when purchasing a car in that class.

But if I was buying a 4x4, I would go for a Range Rover or VW Touareg - I almost bought one of these instead of the CTR....brand new one with delivery millage was the same price as the CTR! It was cheap cause the new one was due out

[19 milano]

I don't think badge snobbery directly relates to picking a car that is obviously better. I think the Skoda, Seat, VW and Audi is a really good example. All make nice cars.

Many people would choose a base model Audi A3 over an Octavia vRS. My friend has said vRS, which is the same price as a standard (as appose to Sport/S line/S3, i.e bottom spec) 1.8 A3. OK, the A3 looks better and is a nicer place to be, but a vRS versus bottom spec A3. I'd take the Skoda.

[Vet_2010]

LOL! I remember as a kid I always thought the Freelander would be the perfect 'vet car' for me, the whole bursting out of the containers into the desert had me sold! Oh what an impressionable child I was

I can't deny that I'm swayed by badge status, but at the end of the day it's the whole package that matters, and the brand is only a small part of it. For example the Audi A3/BMW 1 Series are considered the upper market rivals of the Civic, but IMO they are butt ugly in comparison to the civic so despite the BMW/Audi brand they really weren't any competition at all for me! Having said that I quite fancy the RWD of the BMW

Originally Posted by angie4m

But if I was buying a 4x4, I would go for a Range Rover or VW Touareg - I almost bought one of these instead of the CTR....brand new one with delivery millage was the same price as the CTR! It was cheap cause the new one was due out

What about the Audi Q7? It definitly gets the place in my 4x4 garage!

[NEEMSTAR]

Originally Posted by Vet_2010

Audi Q7?

great call
what a machine
*drool*

[TTDegs]

Originally Posted by angie4m

I would go with the Freelander due to the fact, I like it in that colour and the car looks better....

LOL - bring on the comments from that...

But if I was buying a 4x4, I would go for a Range Rover or VW Touareg - I almost bought one of these instead of the CTR....brand new one with delivery millage was the same price as the CTR! It was cheap cause the new one was due out

Fair points, but slightly off what I was trying to show there

The comparison I was making was that the 2 cars look pretty much the same.
Both are reasonably well built.

But on one hand you have a 'badge status' 3 year old version.

And on the other hand you have a brand new non badge status version.

Both available for circa £15K.


So.
If you had £15K in your pocket and were out to buy a 4x4 (and let's assume for the moment that there are no other options available), which of the two would we go for?

And assuming you could find one in a colour you liked

[sambuca2907]

Originally Posted by angie4m

I went out in the CTR last night and got some admiring looks from guys in BMs, Mercs etc as the car is looking ace, but then I got the same looks today when I was out in the M3 with the roof down.

My biggest bug bare is those people that TT mentioned that put a M badge on the car when its a bog standard SE BM. Yuk!!! Don't know who they are trying to fool, cause they just look like a tit!

How about also the people that just put the "M" colours... lol

[sambuca2907]

Originally Posted by TTDegs

LOL - bring on the comments from that...


Fair points, but slightly off what I was trying to show there

The comparison I was making was that the 2 cars look pretty much the same.
Both are reasonably well built.

But on one hand you have a 'badge status' 3 year old version.

And on the other hand you have a brand new non badge status version.

Both available for circa £15K.


So.
If you had £15K in your pocket and were out to buy a 4x4 (and let's assume for the moment that there are no other options available), which of the two would we go for?

And assuming you could find one in a colour you liked

£15k for a 4x4 - would have to be out of the following:
Hyundai Santa Fe - LOVELY looking car!
Honda CR-V
Kia Sportage

I wouldn't even consider a Jeep or Land Rover/Range Rover... I'd want it to get to the end of the road once I'd bought it! Range Rovers are for the queen and drug dealers anyway... or maybe business execs thinking they look cooler than in a saloon...!

And that orange colour - I think it's nice! It's like the orange ST's - you either like it or you don't.

[sambuca2907]

Originally Posted by 19 milano

Yep. And style is not a word that springs to mind! Perceived image maybe.

BMW just does not appeal to me. And I have real issues with people that buy base models just to own a brand. I can never understand why they don't spend the same on another car and get alot more for their money (as long as the car is still a good one). It reminds me of chavs that buy a rubbish car for £2000, spend £5000 sticking bits of plastic on it, when they could have bought a good car for £7000!

My boss just swapped a super-chipped cooper S for a 1 series deisel! Why? I can only find it in me to take the pi@@ out of her!!!!

In my opinion... I'd rather have a Fiesta than a Mini...! I just do not like them at all. One of my mates has the Mini Cooper Works GP (Limited edition one - 220 bhp) - lovely car... but just NOT for me.

And the BMW diesel - either 174 or 201 bhp on the 120d or 123d, and getting 58 & 54mpg still... she's laughing!

[Palindrome]

Oh how true Angie.
I'm too put off by the old Freelander, if you left them in the sun too long the head gaskets used to blow!

[sambuca2907]

Originally Posted by Palindrome

Oh how true Angie.
I'm too put off by the old Freelander, if you left them in the sun too long the head gaskets used to blow!

haha! And the rest!

[angie4m]

Originally Posted by Vet_2010

What about the Audi Q7? It definitly gets the place in my 4x4 garage!

Originally Posted by NEEMSTAR

great call
what a machine
*drool*

Have to agree 110% that is one of the best looking 4x4s on the roads, but thats the issue....i've driven a few 4x4s and some (like the X5) are only good for being on road....whereas if I had got a 4x4 I would have used it to its full potential. My Uncle has a Range Rover Sport, but my Aunty has a Kia Sportage (which my uncle wrecked by trying to make it look like and X5 )

Originally Posted by TTDegs

LOL - bring on the comments from that...


Fair points, but slightly off what I was trying to show there

The comparison I was making was that the 2 cars look pretty much the same.
Both are reasonably well built.

But on one hand you have a 'badge status' 3 year old version.

And on the other hand you have a brand new non badge status version.

Both available for circa £15K.


So.
If you had £15K in your pocket and were out to buy a 4x4 (and let's assume for the moment that there are no other options available), which of the two would we go for?

And assuming you could find one in a colour you liked

Ha ha! Did you like that one TT? I knew it was the point you were trying to make, but I thought I would make a rather girly comment about liking the colour he he - Plus the Freelander still looks better! Bet there are a few fellas on here (or even women) who can verify that someone has bought a car because they 'Liked the Colour' I know several airheads like that. Makes me giggle - buy a piece of crap but as long as they like the colour they won't get fed up of admiring it when stuck at the side of the road with it he he

Originally Posted by sambuca2907

In my opinion... I'd rather have a Fiesta than a Mini...! I just do not like them at all. One of my mates has the Mini Cooper Works GP (Limited edition one - 220 bhp) - lovely car... but just NOT for me.

Its quite strange how some people like one car but not another take for example I had a Mini, loved it...it looked like a toy car which kids adored and when I saw the Civic I knew it was going to be my next car as it was the only car after the Mini that looked great (in that bracket) Quite a few ex Mini owners on here who think similar, yet there are others who don't like the Mini but like the Civic........but then the Civic is a proper car for 4 adults unlike a Mini which became a 2 seater in my case

[TTDegs]

I did think your comment might have been slightly tongue in cheek angie, but couldn't resist picking up on it



The brand new 4x4 in the pics I posted is indeed a Kia Sportage

[alanwalne]

Originally Posted by TTDegs

For the cars in question, "Type Rs" might be more appropriate...

Back on badge status...

erm...


Given the choice between a brand new one of these:

and a 3 year old one of these

which would you choose?

TT You can't (yet) get a three year old new shape Freelander, so at three years old it would still be an old style one (make sure you get a TD4 to ensure the engine will outlive the tax disc!!).....

[TTDegs]

smart arse! LOL

[alanwalne]

Originally Posted by TTDegs

smart arse! LOL

Sorry couldn't resist.... you know you would have done the same too (you will to me now anyway!!)

[StuMcBill]

Originally Posted by angie4m

I'm up for that

If you have ever been in one you would change your mind!

I fear for Jaguar and Land Rover!

[angie4m]

Originally Posted by StuMcBill

If you have ever been in one you would change your mind!

I fear for Jaguar and Land Rover!

I have been in Land Rovers, never a Jag though. But You are indeed correct to fear for them as its all going to be down hill now Tata own them and I mean they will make cheaper built cars but still expect everyone to pay the same for them....but thats what happening everywhere nowadays, well apart from Merc.

Aren't they the ones that have gone back to the good old days and are now using top quality stuff for the interiors etc. They said they were losing business due to cost cutting. At least one company is listening to customers and quite frankly for the first time in my life I would pic a merc over a BMW. The new C class is stunning!!!!! I'm in love with that

[Unknownsoldier]

Originally Posted by sambuca2907

How about also the people that just put the "M" colours... lol

Technically I could have had the ///M on my last 5 sereis purely because it had the M upgrades (interior, wheel, gearshift, etc. M-Suspension etc. etc., totalled about 5-8K if memory serves, don't know why the guy bothered really , but I didn't mind when I bought it for the same price as all the other basic spec 5s ), as long as it is stuck to the left hand side and carries no number designation then in the BM' world it is generally accepted as it denotes styling rather than perfomance additions (I for example had the AC badge on the rear of my 3 Series, on the left, because it had a few AC bits of styling added, if it had been on the right it would have denoted engine mods ).

However I'll try and find her on Campus, there is a lady/girl who drives apparently an ///M318 I, woow so rare Why leave the 318 on if your gonna pretend it's an M???? However a guy I know has a 545i that has M5 badges on it, although it's not an M5 it is a dead accurate replica and is in fact faster with all his mods than a real M5 (especially if he uses his Nos kit 40+ yo Boy racer ).

Tom