Damage Scum

[Unknownsoldier]

Originally Posted by xYKMFx chris

I agree totally kids these days dont show any respect for their own relatives and belongings let alone other peoples!! If they were named and shamed on tv they would see it as a reward a big achievement rather than an embarrassment!!!

We had a brand new clio on 1st dec 05, on the 28th some idiot drunk in a stolen car speeding up the road lost control hit the garden wall (made up of solid concrete blocks) they flew through the house, and hit our car too which was on the drive. The guy was caught hiding behind a wall, arrested, forensics came his blood was in the car but they couldnt convict him because they couldnt prove he was the driver!!! Shocking he got away with it n we were all left traumatised, including the elderley neighbour who's property was all hit, and who was just getting over losing her husband to cancer!! Appauling!!!! Same car we had some drunken idiot jump on the bonnet of too!!!

Then theres my 19 yr old cousin, got on his moped to fetch a game from his mates house at the top of his rd. A well known joy rider came along the rd in a stolen car hit him and carried on going, unfortunally my cousin died as a result. The idioy was caught sentenced to 5 yrs for causing death by dangerous driving and got released on good behaviour after 2 an d a half years!!!!! He now walks round the streets taunting my family, and to top it off Christophers brother has had to sign documents to say that he will not harm the lad that did this to his only brother!!!!

Sorry for the long post but it gets me really mad!!!!

Jayne x

It really is disgusting, personally if I had my way they would be hung with piano wire in the town square at half time during a football match, so everyone could watch, but hey thats me.

TBh, staring down the barrel of a gun is the scariest thing i've ever had happen to me, yet, no one it seems nowadays seems to think twice about it..... the care I take on the range, whether I'm using BP, Shotgun or Rifle is immense, I have to shoot for one year at a club, be vetted and checked by the police, and then have a gun safe installed in my house to keep the gun safe..... yet in London a Gun can be rented for 150 quid!!!

This country has gone to pot, and yet the government has said, with all the stabbings etc., we should all be "have a go heroes", not bloody likely mate.... I come from a long line of very old cowards, not a short line of young heroes.............. is it any wonder the young have little respect when the parents have even less......?

Tom (enjoying a late night rant.)

Tom

[HappyMan]

Wow Jayne what a story and so sorry to hear about your cousin.

Sadly it does seem the law rather protects the criminal more than the innocent - I know that we need proof to convict someone but surely there has to be justice too!

There seems to be many reasons bounded around as to why kids are like they are today and I don't think there is an easy answer. I also think that is part of the cause too - too many theories not enough action.

It's time the government realised that taking away physical punishment at school and even stopping national service took away a very important part of the learning of respect in the UK. At the end of the day it is 'respect' that we are talking about.

The bible says 'spare the rod, spoil the child' there might be something there!

We need affirmative action, courageous politicians and a big stick to sort the situation out.

Originally Posted by xYKMFx chris

I agree totally kids these days dont show any respect for their own relatives and belongings let alone other peoples!! If they were named and shamed on tv they would see it as a reward a big achievement rather than an embarrassment!!!

We had a brand new clio on 1st dec 05, on the 28th some idiot drunk in a stolen car speeding up the road lost control hit the garden wall (made up of solid concrete blocks) they flew through the house, and hit our car too which was on the drive. The guy was caught hiding behind a wall, arrested, forensics came his blood was in the car but they couldnt convict him because they couldnt prove he was the driver!!! Shocking he got away with it n we were all left traumatised, including the elderley neighbour who's property was all hit, and who was just getting over losing her husband to cancer!! Appauling!!!! Same car we had some drunken idiot jump on the bonnet of too!!!

Then theres my 19 yr old cousin, got on his moped to fetch a game from his mates house at the top of his rd. A well known joy rider came along the rd in a stolen car hit him and carried on going, unfortunally my cousin died as a result. The idioy was caught sentenced to 5 yrs for causing death by dangerous driving and got released on good behaviour after 2 an d a half years!!!!! He now walks round the streets taunting my family, and to top it off Christophers brother has had to sign documents to say that he will not harm the lad that did this to his only brother!!!!

Sorry for the long post but it gets me really mad!!!!

Jayne x

[Unknownsoldier]

Originally Posted by HappyMan

Wow Jayne what a story and so sorry to hear about your cousin.

Sadly it does seem the law rather protects the criminal more than the innocent - I know that we need proof to convict someone but surely there has to be justice too!

There seems to be many reasons bounded around as to why kids are like they are today and I don't think there is an easy answer. I also think that is part of the cause too - too many theories not enough action.

It's time the government realised that taking away physical punishment at school and even stopping national service took away a very important part of the learning of respect in the UK. At the end of the day it is 'respect' that we are talking about.

The bible says 'spare the rod, spoil the child' there might be something there!

We need affirmative action, courageous politicians and a big stick to sort the situation out.

Agreed, my parents believed in 'smacking' (or GBH as it's now classed, dumb or what!!!), I got a smack ONCE, afterwards I was too scared of a 'clip' to do anything again...... maybe giving some of these scummy little so&so's a belting every so often would help (preferably with some form of cattle prod or barbed wire dipped in vinegar.........). I don't say beat kids senseless, but as one trains a dog, teach them right and wrong and who is the master...........................

I shouted at a kid a few weeks ago for......get this...... urinating in the hedge on my drive!!!!! He just wandered onto my drive unzipped and went.............. the nerve of these kids (him being about 10-11), and when I dared to shout oi!!!! I got the finger, a "f**k off" and a saunter off home...... No respect these kids, in my day.... during the war..... so on and so forth, but should anyone have to put up with this????

Tom

[HappyMan]

When i was younger my parent's smacked me and my brother and sister and none of us have turned out to be emotionally and physically abused adults - we knew that if we did something wrong there would be punishment for it.

I think as soon as you take away effective punishment as a deterrent or whatever it moves the goalposts and gives kids a chance to 'try it on'

I don't know what the answer is I just know that somehow we have to take back the initiative and take control again.

parent's really do have to take control of their kids and discipline and spend time with them and so on.

I actually agree with David Cameron's 'hug a huddy' idea because at the end of the day kids just want to feel loved and cherished and sadly that is missing today. What that doesn't mean is not giving tough love too!

[Unknownsoldier]

So wiring the bush on my drive to the mains may not help matters then.........??

Tom

[HappyMan]

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

So wiring the bush on my drive to the mains may not help matters then.........??

Tom

That falls into the 'tough love' category surely

[Unknownsoldier]

I'm sure certain racing tycoons, might even pay extra..........

Tom

[HappyMan]

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

I'm sure certain racing tycoons, might even pay extra..........

Tom

[illegalhunter]

This why we should still be hangin these feckers .

[NH Dan]

Originally Posted by illegalhunter

This why we should still be hangin these feckers .

I'm doing the next best thing. I've had enough so over the next 12 months or so, i'm clearing as many debts as i can and am planning to leave these wonderful shores and go somewhere slightly less scummy. Forever.

[Unknownsoldier]

Originally Posted by NH Dan

I'm doing the next best thing. I've had enough so over the next 12 months or so, i'm clearing as many debts as i can and am planning to leave these wonderful shores and go somewhere slightly less scummy. Forever.

Exactly what I'm planning, finish my courses etc. move to Canada nad teach......................... or possibly maybe I'll just try and get the 'Millenium Act' (AKA 'Battle Royale Act') passed here

Tom

[illegalhunter]

Originally Posted by NH Dan

I'm doing the next best thing. I've had enough so over the next 12 months or so, i'm clearing as many debts as i can and am planning to leave these wonderful shores and go somewhere slightly less scummy. Forever.

Your not alone there mate , were in Broken Britain now

[Unknownsoldier]

Just wait til' the revolution comes, "And all ye shall know the meaning of the term scorched Earth, and the smell of Burning Reeboks will hang in the air.........." LOL

Tom

[NH Dan]

joking aside, I dont think that we are that far from a revolution of sorts as it is. Stabbings daily with the Police/government unable to do anything will only end up with vigilante style repercussions. Its only a matter of time before the general public start taking matters into their own hands.

[Unknownsoldier]

I'll tell you something, I'd never ever call the police again, (getting told, "we have no officers avaliable to come to your assistance" & "Sorry it is is not within our remit to deal with these sorts of problems", until they knew my gf was hinese, then they couldn't do enough to help!!!) they are just so useless round here.....

I agree, the revolution is coming.....

Tom

[NH Dan]

The best bit, living in south london, is when you do actually call 999.......then get put on hold until there is someone available to answer the call. Now that's funny.

[Unknownsoldier]

I was in my car being attacked, first they told there was no one to help, and then they rang mer back and asked if he'd left me his insurance details (my reply "Yes he left them under the wiper he just ripped off!!!!").

You couldn't make these things up!

Tom

[aslz78]

I agree with you all Tom and NH Dan all the way. Its human rights thats the problem at the root of it all. Everyones too afraid to infringe on other people human rights!

[COB]

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

Because damaging cars according to the police is no longer illegal....... anyone see that massive FUBAR by the police in the papers????? Not enough resources to deal with the offences!!!!!! Funny that GF gets abused by some lads, report it ot the police, they don't care, say the abuse was racist and they could get to us quick enough!!!!!!! The state the countries in, is it any wonder these little so and so's do it??? They know they can get away with it!!!!

Gonna sound old now....... BUT when I was a kid, I would never have dreamt of doing anything like this;

A). Because I was brought up properly

and

B). Because of the 'clip' round the ear my mum would have given me!!!!

I feel really sorry for you mate, having your car damaged and all, but sadly it's the little s*ds perogative to vandalise, wreck and generally demolish anyone who has anything nicers than them, because they'll have had a 'hard childhood' or been given the wrong colour Reeboks or some such twaddle, yet to defend your property is no longer allowed..... I'd suggest if it's on your drive get some security lights or camera's or on the road by your house by a security light and set the sensor to cover the area where your car is and possibly put some camera's in (make them obvious) to cover the area, sadly you can't do what I advocate which is wiring the car to the mains or a small 20Kg block of semtex and pressure pads

Hope it's all sorted soon,
Tom

This really really annoys me - they (police) don't have time to sort out real crime but seem to have more than enough to punish ordinary motorists - the country's all ****'d up and the priorities are all wrong. glad to see all of the extortionate tax I pay is being used well

[philiphenderson]

Originally Posted by xYKMFx chris

I agree totally kids these days dont show any respect for their own relatives and belongings let alone other peoples!! If they were named and shamed on tv they would see it as a reward a big achievement rather than an embarrassment!!!

We had a brand new clio on 1st dec 05, on the 28th some idiot drunk in a stolen car speeding up the road lost control hit the garden wall (made up of solid concrete blocks) they flew through the house, and hit our car too which was on the drive. The guy was caught hiding behind a wall, arrested, forensics came his blood was in the car but they couldnt convict him because they couldnt prove he was the driver!!! Shocking he got away with it n we were all left traumatised, including the elderley neighbour who's property was all hit, and who was just getting over losing her husband to cancer!! Appauling!!!! Same car we had some drunken idiot jump on the bonnet of too!!!

Then theres my 19 yr old cousin, got on his moped to fetch a game from his mates house at the top of his rd. A well known joy rider came along the rd in a stolen car hit him and carried on going, unfortunally my cousin died as a result. The idioy was caught sentenced to 5 yrs for causing death by dangerous driving and got released on good behaviour after 2 an d a half years!!!!! He now walks round the streets taunting my family, and to top it off Christophers brother has had to sign documents to say that he will not harm the lad that did this to his only brother!!!!

Sorry for the long post but it gets me really mad!!!!

Jayne x

I'd sign nowt. What can they do? Can't see them locking anybody up for not signing. Is the punishment higher if you did something to him after signing?

Phil.