Civinfo

9.jpg
This thread is about: Skipping Gears, it's in General Discussion at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; When I learned to drive, I was taught to skip gears (4->2, 5->3), however I have since got into the habit of changing down through ...

Help Rules Search Stickers Surveys Wiki Forum
Go Back   Civinfo > Honda Civic > General Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 25th June 2008, 13:08   #1 (permalink)
Dandy Don
Locking Wheelnut
 
StuMcBill's Avatar
 
Join Date: 2nd January 2008
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland SCOTLAND
Posts: 142
Thanks: 5
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Skipping Gears

When I learned to drive, I was taught to skip gears (4->2, 5->3), however I have since got into the habit of changing down through the gears (5->4->3->2->1) and using a bit of engine braking to help slow me down.

My question is, I seem to remember being told, it was OK to skip gears on the way down, but not on the way up?

Is this correct?

Cheers

Stu
StuMcBill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 13:16   #2 (permalink)
Supporter
Triangular Exhaust
 
Dalboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: 21st January 2007
Location: Worcestershire GB
Posts: 369
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by StuMcBill View Post
When I learned to drive, I was taught to skip gears (4->2, 5->3), however I have since got into the habit of changing down through the gears (5->4->3->2->1) and using a bit of engine braking to help slow me down.

My question is, I seem to remember being told, it was OK to skip gears on the way down, but not on the way up?

Is this correct?

Cheers

Stu
No, not if you are doing sufficient speed for a higher gear.
Dalboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 13:17   #3 (permalink)
Nobody gets out alive
Rocketship door handle
 
NEEMSTAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: 7th October 2007
Location: In your mind ENGLAND
Posts: 1,393
Thanks: 30
Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Skipping down is fine and encouraged.

I skip up, 2 > 4 normally if I'm not in a rush and doing enough speed / revs for 4th

As long as your not putting strain on the engine I think it's fine.
NEEMSTAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 13:34   #4 (permalink)
Valve Cap
 
Smarty's Avatar
 
Join Date: 29th February 2008
Location: Worcester, UK GB
Posts: 45
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
I would have thought as long as you have sufficient revs you should be able to skip up a gear (or 2). I've done this, aminly when getting up to 30 as I like to cruise around in 4th. Normally I'd change to 3rd around 30 so I see no point in goig 1-2-3-4. Anyway, I could be (and probably am) wrong...
Smarty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 13:42   #5 (permalink)
Supporter
Triangular Exhaust
 
Dalboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: 21st January 2007
Location: Worcestershire GB
Posts: 369
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smarty View Post
I would have thought as long as you have sufficient revs you should be able to skip up a gear (or 2). I've done this, aminly when getting up to 30 as I like to cruise around in 4th. Normally I'd change to 3rd around 30 so I see no point in goig 1-2-3-4. Anyway, I could be (and probably am) wrong...
Your right
Dalboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 14:00   #6 (permalink)
Moved on
Civinfo guru
 
angie4m's Avatar
 
Join Date: 28th September 2007
Location: Edinburgh SCOTLAND
Posts: 2,773
Thanks: 17
Thanked 32 Times in 32 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Going up fine as long as your not changing from 2nd to 4th at 2000rpm as there could be an issue there and when changing down you just have to make sure your revvs aint too high as there is no rev limiter when changing down so you can over rev the engine Oops!
angie4m is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 14:22   #7 (permalink)
Comedian/Smart A*se
Civinfo guru
 
Unknownsoldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: 22nd September 2007
Location: Kent, UK ENGLAND
Posts: 2,598
Thanks: 62
Thanked 29 Times in 27 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Using the engine to reduce the speed of the car is now frowned upon, when I learnt I was told I would be marked down for not using my brakes!!! I still though use my gears to "slow & go". I was taught however to skip gears on the way down, but not on the way up, however I rev mine in first gear then jump to third then to fifth/sixth. Depends if I'm in a hurry or not, I have found skipping gears and using engine braking instead of hard braking is more economical on fuel.

Tom
Unknownsoldier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 14:27   #8 (permalink)
Exiled Englishman
Triangular Exhaust
 
bucketp's Avatar
 
Join Date: 23rd October 2007
Location: Peebles, Scottish Borders ENGLAND
Posts: 391
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
My driving instructor (v brave man) allways told me to use brakes to slow your car as a set of pads is a lot cheaper han a gearbox!
bucketp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 14:31   #9 (permalink)
Comedian/Smart A*se
Civinfo guru
 
Unknownsoldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: 22nd September 2007
Location: Kent, UK ENGLAND
Posts: 2,598
Thanks: 62
Thanked 29 Times in 27 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Ahah, but try that with old brakes I was told the same balls as that and I don't agree, you should use the gears to slow you gradually, doing this I rarely touch the brakes and make excellent times on journeys because it requires you to gauge how the cars are moving. Also mototrways this is much easier.

Tom
Unknownsoldier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 14:35   #10 (permalink)
Supporter
Magic Rear Seat
 
okehciv's Avatar
 
Join Date: 21st January 2007
Location: shaw gtr manchester ENGLAND
Posts: 977
Thanks: 6
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
iTrader: (0)
I have to admit to skiping gears going up and down.
okehciv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 15:00   #11 (permalink)
Supporter
Triangular Exhaust
 
f.ss.t's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10th September 2007
Location: liverpool ENGLAND
Posts: 261
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
yes i do the same.. usually pull off (when im relaxed0 in 1st gear -17mph... then 2nd gear till 27mph... into third and 4th gear at like 33mph.... i think once your above 30mph however you get there, you can put in fourth... however going from say 1st gear redlining at 40mph to 4th gear would be a bit irregular haha........... one thing you dont want to do is shift down from 4th to 2nd 3meters before a corner! haha
f.ss.t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 15:02   #12 (permalink)
Supporter
Triangular Exhaust
 
f.ss.t's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10th September 2007
Location: liverpool ENGLAND
Posts: 261
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
sometimes you may have to skip from 6th>4th or 5th>3rd on motorways to get back into the v-tec zone haha -for safer overtaking and showing off
f.ss.t is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 17:36   #13 (permalink)
Supporter
Locking Wheelnut
 
ViBe's Avatar
 
Join Date: 20th May 2008
Location: Göteborg, Sweden SE
Posts: 119
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
In driving schools here in sweden nowadays they teach you eco driving technique. I'm a bit old to have gone through this but what I've heard they teach you to skip gears both going up and down as well as using engine braking all of the time when slowing down. I personally skip gears on both ways depending on my driving style for the moment, if im in a hurry or not etc. I almost never use 5th gear though, its almost always 1-2-3-6 and 4th when I need to overtake on the motorway. I am a bit confused though about using the engine to brake, the pros would be that it cuts of fuel supply, saves gas, and minimizes ware on the pads.. but I would imagine it could wear out the clutch and gearbox quicker if you do this a lot.. does this seem right?
ViBe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 18:00   #14 (permalink)
Comedian/Smart A*se
Civinfo guru
 
Unknownsoldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: 22nd September 2007
Location: Kent, UK ENGLAND
Posts: 2,598
Thanks: 62
Thanked 29 Times in 27 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Thats the apparent point.... but personally I don't see it's any different to changing gear at any other time.

Tom
Unknownsoldier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 18:53   #15 (permalink)
Rocketship door handle
 
Bungle's Avatar
 
Join Date: 3rd July 2006
Location: SE London/Kent ENGLAND
Posts: 1,220
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Skipping gears in both directions is good. Sequentially selcting every gear in the box is a waste of time and effort.
Brakes are for slowin', gears are for goin'. Engine braking should be used to maintain a reduced speed down a hill, for example. You should not, not, not use gears to slow the car. Very bad practice.
'Ecosafe' driving is being bought in over here too. Block changing is encourage, as is using the highest available (and suitable) gear. The biggest thing is forward planning.
Bungle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 19:05   #16 (permalink)
HACKIN & SLAYIN
Civinfo guru
 
illegalhunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10th May 2007
Location: In the woods armed to the teeth SCOTLAND
Posts: 2,898
Thanks: 6
Thanked 35 Times in 34 Posts
iTrader: (0)
i go 4/ 6 on the way up all the time
illegalhunter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 19:49   #17 (permalink)
Supporter
Rocketship door handle
 
Jack The Lad.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: 28th August 2007
Location: ENGLAND ENGLAND
Posts: 1,804
Thanks: 4
Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts
iTrader: (0)
I can remember my Dad, turning the ignition off, putting it in neutral and coasting down long hills in his Standard 8.
Had I not been but just a kid, that would have been frightening.
He hasn't had an accident in 55 years of driving, though he has probably caused a few, without knowing.
Jack The Lad. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 20:59   #18 (permalink)
Bournemouth Belle
Triangular Exhaust
 
lippy's Avatar
 
Join Date: 10th January 2007
Location: Bournemouth ENGLAND
Posts: 456
Thanks: 1
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
iTrader: (0)
I was taught that you could skip gears going 'down', to help slow the car by using engine and brakes, and also to keep in a low gear to keep a lower speed going down a steep hill - there is a hill locally that I regularly see people driving down with their foot on the brakes whereas I go down it in 3rd, stay at 30ish and dont wear my brakes out. My dad also did this and never had any problems.
lippy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 21:40   #19 (permalink)
The Talented Mr. Robbieee
Rocketship door handle
 
Robbieee's Avatar
 
Join Date: 27th September 2007
Location: Glasvegas SCOTLAND
Posts: 1,170
Thanks: 41
Thanked 28 Times in 27 Posts
iTrader: (1)
I dont think i have ever used 5th gear! Always go from 4th to 6th...
Robbieee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25th June 2008, 23:25   #20 (permalink)
Locking Wheelnut
 
coolice's Avatar
 
Join Date: 14th March 2008
Location: UK ENGLAND
Posts: 182
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungle View Post
Brakes are for slowin', gears are for goin'. Engine braking should be used to maintain a reduced speed down a hill, for example. You should not, not, not use gears to slow the car. Very bad practice.
Hey,

This is a good topic and one which can be answered in many ways as proved with the above statement which is just a personal assumption and not fact I feel.

Using the gears to slow your car down will not prematurely wear your gearbox, putting torque through it to pull away does but unless you totally fumble a gear change at the wrong revs it's not going to cause any problems.
In this instance what is the difference between using your gears to maintain speed going down a hill to using the same technique to help you slow down?

Also, using your gears to slow you down gives your brakes an easier life, remember when slowing down your brakes get hot and this heat generates gas. This gas can build between pad & disk, the pads can glaze over as well reducing your braking power even more. Hence vented, drilled & grooved disks to help dissipate heat.

In todays world of having to save money with fuel bills as well it has already been mentioned that slowing down in gear reduces fuel used, as the ECU doesn't need to keep the engine running the cars momentum will.

I slow down using my gears and always have done and block changed, again as with everyone else it depends if your trying to make head way or just chilling.

Ian
coolice is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  Civinfo > Honda Civic > General Discussion

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads for: Skipping Gears
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Skipping to bottom of page cjthompson321 Site suggestions, feedback and rules 6 28th June 2007 12:04
Transmission Skipping gears? Wander Engines and Transmission 34 5th March 2007 19:57
Transmission switch gears with i-sihft heinc Engines and Transmission 4 8th August 2006 21:02


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:45.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
vB.Sponsors
Site owned by Andrew Potts - nothing to do with Honda!

Hosting by Vidahost