Hard decision - need some advices

amidamaru · 5th December 2008, 10:28

Hi,

I have an Civic 5D, 1.8l , M/T from 2 years with some adjustments performed.

So far so good...I have enjoy the car, also much things to improve still waiting.

Recently I have a identify the possibility to change my car with the Civic Sedan Si.

I have read about this car different reviews and it seems like interior quality and others to be much more under the European models.

What should I do ? Invest more money in my current Civic or buy this one, more powerfull but with a lot of questions marks regard the guarantee and others ?

HappyMan · 5th December 2008, 10:30

I take it the Sedan is not the european sedan?

amidamaru · 5th December 2008, 10:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyMan

I take it the Sedan is not the european sedan?

No, is not the european one I think.

Take a look here:

h**p://automobiles.honda.com/civic-si-sedan/

Wheelchair · 5th December 2008, 10:39

That is the US version.

HappyMan · 5th December 2008, 10:40

I guess you have to weigh up all the different criteria and decide on what's best for you.

Is the car imported?

Will the car have a warranty?

What is the difference between the european 4 door sedan and the US version?

Personally the warranty issue would be very important to me.

Wheelchair · 5th December 2008, 10:42

If you've spent alot of time and effort modifying your current vehicle, it may be a shame to lose it.

amidamaru · 5th December 2008, 10:58

As you know, the cars imported from the US don't keep the warranty protection in Europe..

..so I need to manage by myself this issue.

On the other hand the Civic 5D model begin to show his weeknesses, clutch, steering servo box, etc.

I don't know and especially I don't belive the new facelift solve those problems.

HappyMan, I talk about the US Si model,197 hp, not the standard one, the same model like Europe, 140 Hp

HappyMan · 5th December 2008, 11:07

Have you read the review pottsy did? 2009 Honda Civic Road Test

Maybe some things have changed for the better on the facelifted versions.

dave87 · 5th December 2008, 11:10

The Si in the US is the TypeR that the UK gets is it not? But with the Sedan type body shell rather than the hatch?

amidamaru · 5th December 2008, 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by HappyMan

Have you read the review pottsy did? 2009 Honda Civic Road Test

Maybe some things have changed for the better on the facelifted versions.

Yes, I have read this also....if you need to change to the new model, you will do it ?.

HappyMan · 5th December 2008, 11:27

I don't need to change as I am more than happy with my car

Iluvtobrevved · 5th December 2008, 11:47

did you see their mpg, so funny 21 city 29 mpg highway lol!!

amidamaru · 5th December 2008, 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iluvtobrevved

did you see their mpg, so funny 21 city 29 mpg highway lol!!

Yes, I see the values...Their are a little non realistic for the Europe... how big could be the differences anyway?

Wheelchair · 5th December 2008, 12:00

Ouch!

dylang652 · 5th December 2008, 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iluvtobrevved

did you see their mpg, so funny 21 city 29 mpg highway lol!!

This isn't as bad as it looks - bear in mind that the US Gallon is only 83% of the UK Gallon, so this would relate to 25 and 35 respectively - still not good I admit, but they are built for the American market where 20mpg is regarded as economical

HappyMan · 5th December 2008, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylang652

This isn't as bad as it looks - bear in mind that the US Gallon is only 83% of the UK Gallon, so this would relate to 25 and 35 respectively - still not good I admit, but they are built for the American market where 20mpg is regarded as economical

It's true, I have a few american friends and they told me that 25mpg is a really good thing in the states and would be considered economical!!!!

Classic!

luckie · 5th December 2008, 13:00

I know a guy who has Si Coupe from US and is happy. He imported it from US a few months ago when financially it made a lot of sense - on top he likes the coupe version anyway.
Si is a US equivalent for Type R.
I would say it is interesting option - you can have a familly saloon with excellent performance.
The quality does not seem to be any worse then the Swindon one (and we all know it is not something to be proud of really). I have no statistics but my colleagues car has been 100% reliable so far.

US gallon is not equal to UK one.

Iluvtobrevved · 5th December 2008, 13:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylang652

This isn't as bad as it looks - bear in mind that the US Gallon is only 83% of the UK Gallon, so this would relate to 25 and 35 respectively - still not good I admit, but they are built for the American market where 20mpg is regarded as economical

ye thats trues the hummer does like 6 mpg

luckie · 5th December 2008, 13:33

This may be interesting for you

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amidamaru · 5th December 2008, 13:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckie

I know a guy who has Si Coupe from US and is happy. He imported it from US a few months ago when financially it made a lot of sense - on top he likes the coupe version anyway.
Si is a US equivalent for Type R.
I would say it is interesting option - you can have a familly saloon with excellent performance.
The quality does not seem to be any worse then the Swindon one (and we all know it is not something to be proud of really). I have no statistics but my colleagues car has been 100% reliable so far.

US gallon is not equal to UK one.

Indeed, as far I read the performance of the car is quite impresive but not so because despite the equivalance between the Si concept and EU Type-R there are some people on the US forums that are very dissapointment about how the engine throttle works...and the engine kick.

More than that most of them like most the EU model that seems to be the most UFO and have better performance...

At the beginning I like the ideea to have a family car with almost 200hp under the hood but I don't want to make any compromises especially isn't a best time period for acid financial investments.

5th December 2008, 10:28	#1 (permalink)
amidamaru Supporter Join Date: 22nd October 2007 Location: Bucharest Posts: 78 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hard decision - need some advices Hi, I have an Civic 5D, 1.8l , M/T from 2 years with some adjustments performed. So far so good...I have enjoy the car, also much things to improve still waiting. Recently I have a identify the possibility to change my car with the Civic Sedan Si. I have read about this car different reviews and it seems like interior quality and others to be much more under the European models. What should I do ? Invest more money in my current Civic or buy this one, more powerfull but with a lot of questions marks regard the guarantee and others ?

5th December 2008, 10:58	#7 (permalink)
amidamaru Supporter Thread starter Join Date: 22nd October 2007 Location: Bucharest Posts: 78 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	As you know, the cars imported from the US don't keep the warranty protection in Europe....so I need to manage by myself this issue. On the other hand the Civic 5D model begin to show his weeknesses, clutch, steering servo box, etc. I don't know and especially I don't belive the new facelift solve those problems. HappyMan, I talk about the US Si model,197 hp, not the standard one, the same model like Europe, 140 Hp

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Wheelchair Goodbye all, have fun! Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: UK Posts: 10,257 Thanks: 77 Thanked 402 Times in 387 Posts iTrader: (0)	That is the US version.

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HappyMan Super Moderator Car: 1.8 EX NHB 2007 Join Date: 16th August 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 10,234 Thanks: 182 Thanked 372 Times in 360 Posts iTrader: (0)	I guess you have to weigh up all the different criteria and decide on what's best for you. Is the car imported? Will the car have a warranty? What is the difference between the european 4 door sedan and the US version? Personally the warranty issue would be very important to me.

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Wheelchair Goodbye all, have fun! Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: UK Posts: 10,257 Thanks: 77 Thanked 402 Times in 387 Posts iTrader: (0)	If you've spent alot of time and effort modifying your current vehicle, it may be a shame to lose it.

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HappyMan Super Moderator Car: 1.8 EX NHB 2007 Join Date: 16th August 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 10,234 Thanks: 182 Thanked 372 Times in 360 Posts iTrader: (0)	Have you read the review pottsy did? 2009 Honda Civic Road Test Maybe some things have changed for the better on the facelifted versions.

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dave87 radix lecti Car: 2006 2.2 iCDTi Sport Join Date: 31st July 2008 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 949 Thanks: 7 Thanked 44 Times in 41 Posts iTrader: (0)	The Si in the US is the TypeR that the UK gets is it not? But with the Sedan type body shell rather than the hatch?

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HappyMan Super Moderator Car: 1.8 EX NHB 2007 Join Date: 16th August 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 10,234 Thanks: 182 Thanked 372 Times in 360 Posts iTrader: (0)	I don't need to change as I am more than happy with my car

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Wheelchair Goodbye all, have fun! Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: UK Posts: 10,257 Thanks: 77 Thanked 402 Times in 387 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ouch!

5th December 2008, 13:00	#17 (permalink)
luckie Join Date: 31st July 2008 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 131 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	I know a guy who has Si Coupe from US and is happy. He imported it from US a few months ago when financially it made a lot of sense - on top he likes the coupe version anyway. Si is a US equivalent for Type R. I would say it is interesting option - you can have a familly saloon with excellent performance. The quality does not seem to be any worse then the Swindon one (and we all know it is not something to be proud of really). I have no statistics but my colleagues car has been 100% reliable so far. US gallon is not equal to UK one.