Flood damage

apemonkeyman · 23rd July 2007, 14:30

Hey!! I'm a Magic Rear Seat!!

Anyway...

Had to drive through about a foot of static flood water yesterday & experienced a loud knocking at one point which I thought was either underwater debris or, rather more worryingly, sudden contraction of the exhaust system due to contact with cold water.

Today I have looked & am sure it was debris as the corner of the plastic shielding underneath has detatched & dropped down a bit. The local dealer said I may be able to fix it by pushing the fixings back in but he's off home now cos the local sewage works is about to flood & it would cause him a few issues!

Anyway, is there any chance of cold flood water that contacts the underside of the car causing damage through cooling bits like the exhaust too quickly?

Also what depth of static water should a Civic be able to get through? Any tips on the most reliable & safest way of getting through it too?

FWH · 23rd July 2007, 14:34

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Originally Posted by apemonkeyman

Also what depth of static water should a Civic be able to get through? Any tips on the most reliable & safest way of getting through it too?

A canoe?

okehciv · 23rd July 2007, 14:55

Wonder if any members has had his/her car badly damaged or writen off in the recent floods

l-noel · 23rd July 2007, 14:58

All of you have my deepest sympathy for what happening to your country !

apemonkeyman · 23rd July 2007, 15:05

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Originally Posted by l-noel

All of you have my deepest sympathy for what happening to your country !

Thanks i-Noel - we're a pretty hardy bunch so I'm sure we'll get through the problems caused by Gordon Brown & then maybe we'll be able to deal with the flooding too.

cb550 · 23rd July 2007, 15:12

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Originally Posted by apemonkeyman

Hey!! I'm a Magic Rear Seat!!

Anyway...

Had to drive through about a foot of static flood water yesterday & experienced a loud knocking at one point which I thought was either underwater debris or, rather more worryingly, sudden contraction of the exhaust system due to contact with cold water.

Today I have looked & am sure it was debris as the corner of the plastic shielding underneath has detatched & dropped down a bit. The local dealer said I may be able to fix it by pushing the fixings back in but he's off home now cos the local sewage works is about to flood & it would cause him a few issues!

Anyway, is there any chance of cold flood water that contacts the underside of the car causing damage through cooling bits like the exhaust too quickly?

Also what depth of static water should a Civic be able to get through? Any tips on the most reliable & safest way of getting through it too?

Not a good idea driving through any deep water as you probably do'nt know what rubbish is lying around.However,I'm sure I'd do the very same if circumstances left me no choice.I'm pretty sure a no no is driving through a water level that reaches up to the engine air intake.If that should happen I think I'm right in saying it'll be goodbye to the big ends/conrods etc

.I think I'll just go and check where my Civic's intake is.....

richierich · 23rd July 2007, 15:28

I had to drive through a foot or so and managed okay. I wouldn't have thought the car would suffer too much from sudden cooling, its no different to driving through a puddle, which is a far more common occurence.

I thought we had it bad last week, but you poor sods in Gloucestershire must be really up against it.

Do you think you can get a snorkel fitted to a Civic??

With regards to the air intake, I dunno??

cb550 · 23rd July 2007, 15:45

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Originally Posted by richierich

I had to drive through a foot or so and managed okay. I wouldn't have thought the car would suffer too much from sudden cooling, its no different to driving through a puddle, which is a far more common occurence.

I thought we had it bad last week, but you poor sods in Gloucestershire must be really up against it.

Do you think you can get a snorkel fitted to a Civic??

With regards to the air intake, I dunno??

It actually comes from out of the top of the nearside front wing.With it being behind the wheel arch liner,I suppose there is a remote possibility there could be further plumbing/pipework there,but for me,I'm happy with that

Bungle · 23rd July 2007, 16:08

Slow car, high engine revs (slipping clutch). Keeps water from entering and essentially blocking the exhaust. Don't stall or let you electrics get wet. Diesels are less likely to have trouble from water splashing round the engine bay.

apemonkeyman · 23rd July 2007, 16:19

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Originally Posted by richierich

I had to drive through a foot or so and managed okay. I wouldn't have thought the car would suffer too much from sudden cooling, its no different to driving through a puddle, which is a far more common occurence.

Mmm, a puddle tends to be a quick splash whereas flood water is more like total prolonged contact if not complete immersion... that's my concern.

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Originally Posted by richierich

I thought we had it bad last week, but you poor sods in Gloucestershire must be really up against it.

I'm really lucky being in Quedgeley cos it seems to avoid the actual ground water problem being slightly elevated. A bit concerned about the Hempstead sewage works flooding tho... it's between us & the city.

Where I live we are just suffering from no tap water & some power cuts. So many whingers moaning about lack of drinking water... I say if you can drive in any direction then go out of town & buy bottles of it - get stocked up from out of town & leave those without transport to use the stocks that are already in town...

I feel really sorry for the people with flooded homes tho, apart from the muppets who bought houses on flood plains or in areas like Alney Terrace that ALWAYS flood at the drop of a hat. There was a guy was moaning on the local news last week that he is flooded having moved there 18 months ago. Some a*se must be laughing that they managed to sell their house on to him despite the fact it's been flooding there for decades.

apemonkeyman · 23rd July 2007, 16:24

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Originally Posted by Bungle

Slow car, high engine revs (slipping clutch). Keeps water from entering and essentially blocking the exhaust. Don't stall or let you electrics get wet. Diesels are less likely to have trouble from water splashing round the engine bay.

I guessed right then... shame about the debris under the water...

TTDegs · 23rd July 2007, 17:33

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Originally Posted by apemonkeyman

I'm really lucky being in Quedgeley cos it seems to avoid the actual ground water problem being slightly elevated.

*Off Topic*
I lived there for a year whilst going to GlosCAT

czechplastik · 23rd July 2007, 18:04

Diesels are happier in the wet than petrols, in terms of the air intake...

Go slow and steady, keep behind the bow wave as the water level will be slightly lower directly behind. I found when we had floods that the water was deceptively deep, especially in dips in the road. If you see lots of stranded cars best not to risk it!

WavyD · 23rd July 2007, 18:08

I did see a picture of a Civ' happily driving through water nearly up to the windscreen. If you get it right, cavitation keeps the water away from the engine. If you get it wrong, its a new car! Its all about slowly speeding up to create a bow wave and then adjusting your speed to keep it just ahead of the front wheels. You will find tutorials on some of the 4x4 owners websites.

Brodick · 23rd July 2007, 18:17

I am just amazed at the amount of town's cities etc affected by the
flooding

I don't think we have had any issues in Scotland as yet which is again quite strange

I do hope everyone affected is well and that you get things sorted out
as soon as possible

MC Hammer · 23rd July 2007, 18:42

A few pics on **** PHOTOGRAPHY COMPETITION ****

apemonkeyman · 23rd July 2007, 19:34

Probably not far off what we drove through, although without the big splash to start with!

WavyD · 23rd July 2007, 19:48

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Originally Posted by MC Hammer

A few pics on **** PHOTOGRAPHY COMPETITION ****

Thats the one. It was your set of pictures that I had in mind. Your second photo shows the classic bow wave and the cavitation just behind. Very impressive.

MC Hammer · 23rd July 2007, 19:57

Shouldn't take credit for the photo's really but I did post them.
The car survived of course but I wouldn't want to go much deeper than that, and drive a tad slower!! If water comes over the front it could get inside the cabin via the heater ducting after wrecking the fan.

WavyD · 23rd July 2007, 20:17

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Originally Posted by czechplastik

Diesels are happier in the wet than petrols, in terms of the air intake...

Go slow and steady, keep behind the bow wave as the water level will be slightly lower directly behind. I found when we had floods that the water was deceptively deep, especially in dips in the road. If you see lots of stranded cars best not to risk it!

Diesels also don't have all that HT cabling to get all nice and wet.

23rd July 2007, 14:30	#1 (permalink)
apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 646 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Flood damage Hey!! I'm a Magic Rear Seat!! Anyway... Had to drive through about a foot of static flood water yesterday & experienced a loud knocking at one point which I thought was either underwater debris or, rather more worryingly, sudden contraction of the exhaust system due to contact with cold water. Today I have looked & am sure it was debris as the corner of the plastic shielding underneath has detatched & dropped down a bit. The local dealer said I may be able to fix it by pushing the fixings back in but he's off home now cos the local sewage works is about to flood & it would cause him a few issues! Anyway, is there any chance of cold flood water that contacts the underside of the car causing damage through cooling bits like the exhaust too quickly? Also what depth of static water should a Civic be able to get through? Any tips on the most reliable & safest way of getting through it too?

23rd July 2007, 18:08	#14 (permalink)
WavyD Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th May 2007 Location: Between the Light of Day and the Shadows of Darkness! Posts: 375 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I did see a picture of a Civ' happily driving through water nearly up to the windscreen. If you get it right, cavitation keeps the water away from the engine. If you get it wrong, its a new car! Its all about slowly speeding up to create a bow wave and then adjusting your speed to keep it just ahead of the front wheels. You will find tutorials on some of the 4x4 owners websites. Last edited by WavyD; 23rd July 2007 at 19:44. Reason: To fix my smellin miksnakes!

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richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had to drive through a foot or so and managed okay. I wouldn't have thought the car would suffer too much from sudden cooling, its no different to driving through a puddle, which is a far more common occurence. I thought we had it bad last week, but you poor sods in Gloucestershire must be really up against it. Do you think you can get a snorkel fitted to a Civic?? With regards to the air intake, I dunno??

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Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Slow car, high engine revs (slipping clutch). Keeps water from entering and essentially blocking the exhaust. Don't stall or let you electrics get wet. Diesels are less likely to have trouble from water splashing round the engine bay.

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Diesels are happier in the wet than petrols, in terms of the air intake... Go slow and steady, keep behind the bow wave as the water level will be slightly lower directly behind. I found when we had floods that the water was deceptively deep, especially in dips in the road. If you see lots of stranded cars best not to risk it!

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Brodick Perfect Guy! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 2nd December 2006 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 1,657 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I am just amazed at the amount of town's cities etc affected by the flooding I don't think we have had any issues in Scotland as yet which is again quite strange I do hope everyone affected is well and that you get things sorted out as soon as possible

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apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 646 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Probably not far off what we drove through, although without the big splash to start with!

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MC Hammer 5 seats are a must! Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: UK Posts: 601 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Shouldn't take credit for the photo's really but I did post them. The car survived of course but I wouldn't want to go much deeper than that, and drive a tad slower!! If water comes over the front it could get inside the cabin via the heater ducting after wrecking the fan.