civic 4x4

v001148 · 29th July 2007, 18:15

recently needed to replace a relatively new trye (7000 miles) after falling into one of those famous potholes in Liverpool. Now awaiting the results of a claim againgst the Highways Agency.
I have a civic 2.2 i-cdti sport and while I love the car I am beginning to think that the suspension and wheel/tyre configuration are just impractical for an urban environment given the poor state of the roads and that I may need to change.

What do others think? Is this a merseyside problem or nation wide?

czechplastik · 29th July 2007, 18:19

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Originally Posted by v001148

What do others think? Is this a merseyside problem or nation wide?

Nationwide.

I'd be less angry at government money making schemes if the money taken from motorists was put back into improving the road conditions/network.

FWH · 29th July 2007, 18:25

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Originally Posted by czechplastik

Nationwide.

Wider than that... more or less global.

czechplastik · 29th July 2007, 18:26

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Originally Posted by FWH

Wider than that... more or less global.

Bad times.

cb550 · 29th July 2007, 18:29

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Originally Posted by czechplastik

Nationwide.

I'd be less angry at government money making schemes if the money taken from motorists was put back into improving the road conditions/network.

Nottingham city/urban roads are are pretty poor.My 5 door's no more sensitive to these conditions compared to various other makes of car I've owned.

czechplastik · 29th July 2007, 18:31

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Originally Posted by cb550

My 5 door's no more sensitive to these conditions compared to various other makes of car I've owned.

No I agree, that wasn't my point. It doesn't really make much difference what you drive on them!

Charles_Harding · 30th July 2007, 16:28

Perhaps that is the idea.

Make roads so bad, no one will drive on them and they will not need any repairs at all in that situation.

Then there will be more money for the Government Think Tanks and junkets.

"If your parents never had children, The chances are that you won't either!"

Charles H.

FWH · 30th July 2007, 16:55

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Originally Posted by Charles_Harding

Perhaps that is the idea.

Make roads so bad, no one will drive on them and they will not need any repairs at all in that situation.

Then there will be more money for the Government Think Tanks and junkets.

"If your parents never had children, The chances are that you won't either!"

Charles H.

I think the plan also is that between the speed cameras and the potholes, no-one will be able to drive fast!

l-noel · 31st July 2007, 07:25

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Originally Posted by FWH

Wider than that... more or less global.

Move into France... Most of our roads are in a good shape (for the moment) Motorway are in the best shape (except in Paris suburbs and in other heavy traffic areas). Our secondary roads are better than more A class roads i the UK

But it may change in the near future. Government pass the A road responsibility from a national scheme to a local one...

basegreen · 31st July 2007, 08:04

It varies depending on the council. The car-unfriendly Sheffield council have comically bad roads, whereas Cambridge (whilst banning cars from the center) has very very good roads indeed. they seem to constantly resurface roads here.

FWH · 31st July 2007, 08:39

It also depends on climate.

The freezing cold and metal studed tyres we have do their part to our roads.

Some of the worst roads (outside of places like Africa) I have seen are in parts of the US where they get cold winters are humid summers. That really tears up the roads and I those regions I understand people wanting SUVs, but when talking to them that is not why they bu them, they just want something big....

Also some CEE countries (or parts of) have the habit of resurfacing without leveling out the holes and ruts. So you sometimes get nice new tarmac on a terrible surface!

Charles_Harding · 31st July 2007, 11:45

[quote=l-noel;92924]Move into France... Most of our roads are in a good shape quote]

I know, Millie and I love doing our 120k going back to the
Shuttle.

Mind you with all that wine in the back, she sounds like a milk float!

The bridges on the motorways, honestly, with their statues look great also.

"I took the wife's family out for tea and biscuits the other day.
They weren't too keen on the giving blood bit tho'!"

Charles H.

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Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 3,303 Thanks: 113 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts iTrader: (0)	Perhaps that is the idea. Make roads so bad, no one will drive on them and they will not need any repairs at all in that situation. Then there will be more money for the Government Think Tanks and junkets. *"If your parents never had children, The chances are that you won't either!"* Charles H.

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basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,896 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	It varies depending on the council. The car-unfriendly Sheffield council have comically bad roads, whereas Cambridge (whilst banning cars from the center) has very very good roads indeed. they seem to constantly resurface roads here.

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FWH Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,986 Thanks: 14 Thanked 66 Times in 61 Posts iTrader: (0)	It also depends on climate. The freezing cold and metal studed tyres we have do their part to our roads. Some of the worst roads (outside of places like Africa) I have seen are in parts of the US where they get cold winters are humid summers. That really tears up the roads and I those regions I understand people wanting SUVs, but when talking to them that is not why they bu them, they just want something big.... Also some CEE countries (or parts of) have the habit of resurfacing without leveling out the holes and ruts. So you sometimes get nice new tarmac on a terrible surface!

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Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 3,303 Thanks: 113 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts iTrader: (0)	[quote=l-noel;92924]Move into France... Most of our roads are in a good shape quote] I know, Millie and I love doing our 120k going back to the Shuttle. Mind you with all that wine in the back, she sounds like a milk float! The bridges on the motorways, honestly, with their statues look great also. "I took the wife's family out for tea and biscuits the other day. They weren't too keen on the giving blood bit tho'!" Charles H.