Help!

eighteentee · 29th September 2007, 21:32

Hi all - need some advice. I went to my local Honda dealers last week just having a look round and quite fancied the look of the Civic 2.2ES. I currently drive a 55-plate Golf GTTDI 140 Mk5 with 18in wheels, auto rear mirror, dual climate, coming home lights and all the other toys standard with Golf's like the computer that tells you when bulbs have blown. Anyway, the salesman offered me some silly money as part-ex for the Golf and I said 'yes' and paid a £1000 deposit. Am currently awaiting delivery.

Now, the more I read about the Civic and apparent less-than-perfect build quality and seeming lack of equipment compared to the Golf (the Golf cost £16999 brand new compared with £17495 for the Civic ES 57-plate) I am starting to have serious doubts that I have done the right thing.

Have I?

czechplastik · 29th September 2007, 21:37

Yes the build quality wasn't so hot on some of the earlier models, but even so only a minority have reported problems. Mine is an early 06er and hasn't had many of the problems others have reported.

With each year the build is getting better and I would be confident that any problems you might encounter will be minimal. The dealers are usally pretty hot at getting things sorted. Don't be too worried!

Brodick · 29th September 2007, 21:55

CZ is right there did appear to be quite a few issues at the beginning
partly due to faulty parts from Honda's suppliers

The build is now much better - on par if not better than VW Honda has a superior reputation to VW and Honda has worked hard to rectify any early faults if there are any problems on new car they are minor

ASH · 29th September 2007, 22:19

I got my '57' 1.8EX i-Shift a couple of weeks ago, and I love it!
All common issues mentioned here (fuel flap, dumper noise etc) seems to be things of past. I guess we (I) expect so much on a Honda because of its reputation in quality. I admit mine is not perfect, but compared with others it's still very good quality including dealer care. I would say if it impressed you enough to trade your Golf, which is also a very good but not a perfect car, it's worth waiting for.
I tested Toyota Auris D4D (180PS) but wasn't impressed at all. It was not more than a very well built high power outpur family car. This wasn't a case for Civic even though it's got less power than Auris.
It's just my personal view....

eighteentee · 29th September 2007, 22:30

I guess I am still feeling bit attached to the toys and stuff in the Golf. I am however getting a bit fed up with the delivery date constantly being put back! Dealer told me Friday but apparently it's been in transit since Wednesday and it's even been delivered to the wrong dealership!! Sheesh!!!

I am a bit miffed at them trying to charge me £1400 for a set of 18in wheels as well

Brodick · 29th September 2007, 22:43

try to get something knocked off the wheels since there has been a delay

ASH · 29th September 2007, 23:12

Dealer seems to be very busy in March & September, eh? Thankfully, mine wasn't delayed...

I stayed with standard 17 inch.
what's the proper price for a set of 18 inch wheels+tyres? (I didn't check...)

FWH · 30th September 2007, 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by eighteentee

Have I?

In a word - YES.

This is the coolest and most fun car to drive for this kind of money.

eighteentee · 30th September 2007, 17:28

Thanks Guys - I am beginning to wonder if I should have gone for the EX though... But I guess I'll feel better when I source some reasonably priced 18 inchers to fill the wheel arches

Is it possible to retro-fit parking sensors and ambient blue lighting?

angie4m · 30th September 2007, 17:45

Not sure about the parking sensors - think a new bumber would really be required if you want it to look the bizz......but the lighting can be done.

Check the Wiki for more info and step by step instructions

FWH · 30th September 2007, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by eighteentee

Is it possible to retro-fit parking sensors and ambient blue lighting?

Yes. Both are dealer fit options which your dealer can fit before delivery or at any later point.
They just drill holes in the bumper.

There are also non-Honda original solutions to both.

Have a look through the how-to section also.

I have both these as Honda options by the way and they are both great.

czechplastik · 30th September 2007, 18:24

Save money and get aftermarket ones

If you had an EX I'd suggest the camera!

FWH · 30th September 2007, 18:58

If you are in a part of the world where you don´t get a lot of snow and ice the camera is a good idea. In my part of the world it is useless for several months. My dealer has several customers who regret that option.

29th September 2007, 21:32	#1 (permalink)
eighteentee Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 26th September 2007 Location: Clitheroe, UK Posts: 140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Help! Hi all - need some advice. I went to my local Honda dealers last week just having a look round and quite fancied the look of the Civic 2.2ES. I currently drive a 55-plate Golf GTTDI 140 Mk5 with 18in wheels, auto rear mirror, dual climate, coming home lights and all the other toys standard with Golf's like the computer that tells you when bulbs have blown. Anyway, the salesman offered me some silly money as part-ex for the Golf and I said 'yes' and paid a £1000 deposit. Am currently awaiting delivery. Now, the more I read about the Civic and apparent less-than-perfect build quality and seeming lack of equipment compared to the Golf (the Golf cost £16999 brand new compared with £17495 for the Civic ES 57-plate) I am starting to have serious doubts that I have done the right thing. Have I?

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29th September 2007, 21:37	#2 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,727 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yes the build quality wasn't so hot on some of the earlier models, but even so only a minority have reported problems. Mine is an early 06er and hasn't had many of the problems others have reported. With each year the build is getting better and I would be confident that any problems you might encounter will be minimal. The dealers are usally pretty hot at getting things sorted. Don't be too worried!

29th September 2007, 21:55	#3 (permalink)
Brodick Perfect Guy! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 2nd December 2006 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 1,893 Thanks: 2 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (0)	CZ is right there did appear to be quite a few issues at the beginning partly due to faulty parts from Honda's suppliers The build is now much better - on par if not better than VW Honda has a superior reputation to VW and Honda has worked hard to rectify any early faults if there are any problems on new car they are minor

29th September 2007, 22:19	#4 (permalink)
ASH Wheelnut Join Date: 29th September 2007 Location: London Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I got my '57' 1.8EX i-Shift a couple of weeks ago, and I love it! All common issues mentioned here (fuel flap, dumper noise etc) seems to be things of past. I guess we (I) expect so much on a Honda because of its reputation in quality. I admit mine is not perfect, but compared with others it's still very good quality including dealer care. I would say if it impressed you enough to trade your Golf, which is also a very good but not a perfect car, it's worth waiting for. I tested Toyota Auris D4D (180PS) but wasn't impressed at all. It was not more than a very well built high power outpur family car. This wasn't a case for Civic even though it's got less power than Auris. It's just my personal view....

29th September 2007, 22:30	#5 (permalink)
eighteentee Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 26th September 2007 Location: Clitheroe, UK Posts: 140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I guess I am still feeling bit attached to the toys and stuff in the Golf. I am however getting a bit fed up with the delivery date constantly being put back! Dealer told me Friday but apparently it's been in transit since Wednesday and it's even been delivered to the wrong dealership!! Sheesh!!! I am a bit miffed at them trying to charge me £1400 for a set of 18in wheels as well

29th September 2007, 22:43	#6 (permalink)
Brodick Perfect Guy! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 2nd December 2006 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 1,893 Thanks: 2 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (0)	try to get something knocked off the wheels since there has been a delay

29th September 2007, 23:12	#7 (permalink)
ASH Wheelnut Join Date: 29th September 2007 Location: London Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Dealer seems to be very busy in March & September, eh? Thankfully, mine wasn't delayed... I stayed with standard 17 inch. what's the proper price for a set of 18 inch wheels+tyres? (I didn't check...)

30th September 2007, 17:45	#10 (permalink)
angie4m Naughty but nice Civinfo guru Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 3,336 Thanks: 25 Thanked 50 Times in 50 Posts iTrader: (0)	Not sure about the parking sensors - think a new bumber would really be required if you want it to look the bizz......but the lighting can be done. Check the Wiki for more info and step by step instructions

30th September 2007, 18:24	#12 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,727 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Save money and get aftermarket ones If you had an EX I'd suggest the camera!

30th September 2007, 18:58	#13 (permalink)
FWH Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 6,469 Thanks: 20 Thanked 84 Times in 77 Posts iTrader: (0)	If you are in a part of the world where you don´t get a lot of snow and ice the camera is a good idea. In my part of the world it is useless for several months. My dealer has several customers who regret that option.