Anyone familiar with the A627 in Oldham?

minisweeper · 9th November 2007, 11:50

This is almost entirely unrelated to Civic owners but it's bugging me anyway...
I've been to Manchester a couple of times now to see some of my friends who are at uni there, and every time I leave my sat nav takes me out the same way - namely driving through a few confusing road systems, along a 40 zone laced with cameras, onto the A627 (i think) and then onto the M62/60/whatever. The thing that's bugging me is that i'm SURE there are NO speed limit signs whatsoever informing us that the A627 has changed from a 40 laced with cameras to a (presumably) national speed limit zone. I'm only presuming it's national speed limit cause when i first drove down it i was trundling along at 40 (yeah I know, driving the speed limit, madness) until it occurred to me that there was a massive open road, no built up surroundings, and people overtaking me at double my speed.

Can anyone please confirm whether it is actually national speed limit (I dont really fancy gettin caught doin 70 in it if it's a 40) and if so whether there are or ever were any signs informing us as such?

cylon2007 · 9th November 2007, 11:58

If there are no speed signs and it's street lit to be on the safe side you need to treat it as a 30 (daft I know). There are quite a few wide dual carriage ways now that have stupidly low speed limits.

Don't know for sure on that road though as it's ages since I've been up there.

dylang652 · 9th November 2007, 13:22

When I was caught doing 35 in a 30 zone I was given the opportunity to avoid points on my license by being 're-educated'

One of the thing that they told us was that if you don't see speed limt signs at regular intervals the speed limit is EITHER 30, or, the National Speed Limit. The way to tell if it is a 30 zone was for it to be a built up area with regularly space lampposts - otherwise it was an NSL!

HTH

minisweeper · 9th November 2007, 18:41

Well yeah, there are also no speed limit signs I can see announcing the NSL when you move onto the motorway which is obviously NSL so there must be a point somewhere that it changes from 40, and judging by surroundings it's reasonably easy to guess where that point is. That doesn't really mean the government can just casually forget to put one up though. Unless they knock a penny off my road tax..

sw65 · 9th November 2007, 18:53

Which section of the A627?

Morris Minor · 9th November 2007, 19:05

hi Minisweeper - I drive that route to work everyday. You're absolutely right that as the 40mph limited road ends and becomes the A627(M) there are no national speed limit signs. The 40mph limit ends at the first junction on on the A627(M), just after a school on the left.

As long as you've past the shool and the slip road at the junction it becomes a 70mph limit I'm sure, but there is no signage - very odd!

MM

minisweeper · 9th November 2007, 21:02

Oh good. It's not just me dozing off to sleep at the wheel then! Now when are they putting the accord's lane following system and distance adaptive cruise control in the civic...?!
How very odd though. Maybe they just forgot...might have to try using 'well some roads change speed limit without signs so i thought this one did too' as an excuse if i ever get caught speeding.

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minisweeper Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 23rd June 2007 Posts: 209 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Anyone familiar with the A627 in Oldham? This is almost entirely unrelated to Civic owners but it's bugging me anyway... I've been to Manchester a couple of times now to see some of my friends who are at uni there, and every time I leave my sat nav takes me out the same way - namely driving through a few confusing road systems, along a 40 zone laced with cameras, onto the A627 (i think) and then onto the M62/60/whatever. The thing that's bugging me is that i'm SURE there are NO speed limit signs whatsoever informing us that the A627 has changed from a 40 laced with cameras to a (presumably) national speed limit zone. I'm only presuming it's national speed limit cause when i first drove down it i was trundling along at 40 (yeah I know, driving the speed limit, madness) until it occurred to me that there was a massive open road, no built up surroundings, and people overtaking me at double my speed. Can anyone please confirm whether it is actually national speed limit (I dont really fancy gettin caught doin 70 in it if it's a 40) and if so whether there are or ever were any signs informing us as such?

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9th November 2007, 11:58	#2 (permalink)
cylon2007 Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 14th April 2007 Location: South Manchester/North Cheshire Posts: 572 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts iTrader: (0)	If there are no speed signs and it's street lit to be on the safe side you need to treat it as a 30 (daft I know). There are quite a few wide dual carriage ways now that have stupidly low speed limits. Don't know for sure on that road though as it's ages since I've been up there.

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dylang652 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 6th September 2007 Location: Northampton Posts: 210 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	When I was caught doing 35 in a 30 zone I was given the opportunity to avoid points on my license by being 're-educated' One of the thing that they told us was that if you don't see speed limt signs at regular intervals the speed limit is EITHER 30, or, the National Speed Limit. The way to tell if it is a 30 zone was for it to be a built up area with regularly space lampposts - otherwise it was an NSL! HTH

9th November 2007, 18:41	#4 (permalink)
minisweeper Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 23rd June 2007 Posts: 209 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Well yeah, there are also no speed limit signs I can see announcing the NSL when you move onto the motorway which is obviously NSL so there must be a point somewhere that it changes from 40, and judging by surroundings it's reasonably easy to guess where that point is. That doesn't really mean the government can just casually forget to put one up though. Unless they knock a penny off my road tax..

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sw65 Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 11th October 2007 Location: North Lincolnshire Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Which section of the A627?

9th November 2007, 19:05	#6 (permalink)
Morris Minor Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 7th May 2007 Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	hi Minisweeper - I drive that route to work everyday. You're absolutely right that as the 40mph limited road ends and becomes the A627(M) there are no national speed limit signs. The 40mph limit ends at the first junction on on the A627(M), just after a school on the left. As long as you've past the shool and the slip road at the junction it becomes a 70mph limit I'm sure, but there is no signage - very odd! MM

9th November 2007, 21:02	#7 (permalink)
minisweeper Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 23rd June 2007 Posts: 209 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Oh good. It's not just me dozing off to sleep at the wheel then! Now when are they putting the accord's lane following system and distance adaptive cruise control in the civic...?! How very odd though. Maybe they just forgot...might have to try using 'well some roads change speed limit without signs so i thought this one did too' as an excuse if i ever get caught speeding.