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Old 27th March 2008, 21:57   #21 (permalink)
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There is a more boring car than a Golf, the new Passat!! Dashboard like a plastic field... Ughh
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Old 27th March 2008, 22:10   #22 (permalink)
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Volkswagen Golf "Das Auto"....

Honda Civic "A Spaceship"
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Old 27th March 2008, 22:17   #23 (permalink)
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Just to add some personal opinion,

In France yet VW is the Reference in terme of automotive industry.
When you read an article about a new french car it is always in term of comparison with an VW product.

But for me VW cars are so dull ! and new french car too (exept maybe some Citroën models.

Maybe that's why the new Toyota Auris is so depressing, because it was designed in France ?
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Old 27th March 2008, 22:27   #24 (permalink)
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What is this sad thing about people called EDDIE who unjustly slag off Civics after 3 months. They either display a total lack of knowledge about cars or they are planted by the German motor industry. What they don`t seem to realise that they are talking to us lot that love our spaceships and appreciate and enjoy them
So I say it`s their loss and our gain
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Old 27th March 2008, 22:30   #25 (permalink)
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I took a test drive in a Citroen C4 Coupe (the hot one).
My wife wouldn't have it, as she told me and the dealer - it looked like a conservatory had been bolted on the back.
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I took a test drive in a C4 as well, the gear box was like mush, the handbrake is on the wrong side and the door handle stuck open when I got in.

I took the test drive and just walked away.
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Old 27th March 2008, 23:04   #27 (permalink)
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Just to add some personal opinion,

In France yet VW is the Reference in terme of automotive industry.
When you read an article about a new french car it is always in term of comparison with an VW product.

But for me VW cars are so dull ! and new french car too (exept maybe some Citroën models.

Maybe that's why the new Toyota Auris is so depressing, because it was designed in France ?
Agreed. Just plain dull. Round my "test track" (50 km) I felt the Golf drove very well, but left me totally uninspired.
The civic - all right, you can feel the stiff rear axle, but it somehow it is wonderful fun to drive. Can't explain it.
As for Toyota: I was broken by a '88 corolla (in 1989) and have still not recovered.
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Old 28th March 2008, 08:14   #28 (permalink)
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I considered an Octavia but again, too dull.

I don't care what a car looks like on the outside because I spend my time inside it so I want some entertainment and toys to play with which the Civic has in droves.

In last weeks Auto Express 2008 owner car survey the Civic beat the Golf and the C4 (and the 1 series) by quite a considerable margin. If the Civic had a better suspension setup it may have come 1st ?
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Old 28th March 2008, 16:26   #29 (permalink)
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For your sake I hope you've gone for petrol and not the diesel, otherwise your neighbours will think you've bought a dodgy transit when they hear it!
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Coming from a A3 (golf in posh frock) to a civic, they are totally different cars. The A3 is well screwed together but very boring, whereas the civic has a few rattles, but is so enjoyable to drive. The 2.0tdi engine in the A3 is so coarse compared to the civic.
The A3 was well built but during the 3 years I had them I had several problems, both electrical and Mechanical, in fact I had an exchange car from Audi as the Ex-demo I purchased was so riddled with faults! That was the one good thing with Audi, as I brought an ex-demo with 8K on the clock, had problems, and ended up being given a new car in exchange with no cost to myself, I was even given the choice of spec I wanted on the replacement.
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You'll get over it

Never mind Eddie, you'll get over it.

My Civic is great and three weeks of dealing with useless Toyota dealers and a junk heap of a 2008 Yaris that my wife bought makes me appreciate the whole Honda experience even more!
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Mine hasn't got any rattles !

Funny thing was that my Lexus IS200 did, one from the top of the left side of the dash that I never did find and one from behind the radio somewhere.

The dealer wanted to strip out the complete dash and rebuild it but I didn't take them up on it, seemed a tad severe to me and may have introduced more or different rattles.

The Civic came 15th in the recent Auto Express user survey which says it all really as all the other cars mentioned (apart from the Octavia) came lower.

The C4's results were right down the pan, and yet I can remember when the C4 first came out the journo's reckoned it was far better built than all previous models - not according to the owners !
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Well... should Eddie2 have bought himself a GTI I may have understood... but i guess he's gonna get a TDI ... now thats's a CAR (by it's definition... it gets you from A to B - granted, if you don't fall asleep at the wheel)... but a passionless one! And from what I've read from VW forums... you'd better prepare yourself. Golfs are't what they used to be... did you check the local dealers' service? Is it any good?

Best of luck Eddie! May you never have any problems with your new car!
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I have only had my civic for 3 mths but I can take no more of it's shoddy workmanship and lack of general usefulness.
I rejoice that I am geting rid of it for a much more superior car.

Welcome back my beloved Golf.

To all of those still stuck with their sad excuses for a car i say farwell........or should that be auf wiedersehen.
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Old 6th April 2008, 20:00   #35 (permalink)
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Not everybody gets a good one.
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The vast majority do
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And even with niggles it's a marvelous car !
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And even with niggles it's a marvelous car !
My one has no niggles after 15 months and is a Fabulous car


P:S Not that I`m biased
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Old 23rd July 2008, 10:50   #40 (permalink)
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I have no issues with mine either.......13 months old now...
Brilliant....nothing out there comes close in this sector
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