Goodbye Type R

Old StageR · 10th October 2008, 23:23

I am getting rid of the worst car I have ever owned.

The paintwork is the worst aspect as far as I am concerned and despite repeatedly complaining to the dealer and Honda UK I have not received satisfaction.

Honda Customer Don't Care Department is appalling in the way it deals with problems.

A change of slogan from 'No Racing No Honda' to 'No Customers No Honda' might focus their attitude.

Why waste millions of pounds on a couple of no-hopers driving in Formula 1. Customers should be the first priority.

However, I must say I have enjoyed the comments on this forum.

I am replacing the Type R with a Pirelli Golf GTi which some people might regard as boring.

Dimplyred · 10th October 2008, 23:25

Good luck with the new car and sorry you didn't have better luck with the CTR.

Wheelchair · 10th October 2008, 23:30

Sorry to hear your Civic has been so bad.

Good luck with your new car.

ChillTypeR · 11th October 2008, 00:00

Apart from the paint is did you have any other issues? Good luck with the golf aswell.

supra-boy · 11th October 2008, 00:49

I think VW's paintwork is a bit suspect aswell. And their customer service is a bit crap. And VW's is a poor mans Audi. But goodluck with your new car! To me Honda rules!!!!!!!

u05rdh · 11th October 2008, 04:41

I'm in the same boat. Poor paint and poor honda cusr service.

Not to mention things breaking and the local dealer putting a big scratch on my door.

So I bought a Focus ST-3 and love it!

Wheelchair · 11th October 2008, 05:42

Oh dear! Sounds like Honda need to up their game a bit.

junkan · 11th October 2008, 07:43

Seems like we are a growing bunch of people all over the world that have changed due to lack of quality.

One unhappy customer spreads the words to 20-100 others.
One happy customer spreads the words to 1-5 people.
Something to think about for Honda!

I have myself talked a couple of people out of buying the civic, they will buy the new Mazda3 och the (ugly) Toyota Auris instead.

Topcat · 11th October 2008, 09:03

Good Luck with the new car I am sure the paintwork will be in a different league to the civic.

HappyMan · 11th October 2008, 09:24

Sorry to hear about the problem you had with your CTR.

I was talking to a guy who has a new merc yesterday, about 3 months old and he was scathing of the paint quality on it. Apparently he has numerous stone chips already!

I wish you good look with the new car - you must tell what it's like, though

robbo51 · 11th October 2008, 09:34

Good luck with the Golf..Its a cracking car...
Honda do appear to not care.
I'm sorry you couldnt live with car any more..Yet another Honda loss..

Rich 11 · 11th October 2008, 09:40

Good bye and Good Luck !!

Robbieee · 11th October 2008, 11:03

i am getting more and more peeved off with the paint issues. Only so much more i can take of it. I really know how you feel on this!

Old StageR · 11th October 2008, 20:00

Thanks for all the comments.

In response to ChillTypeR the paint finish was my only problem.

It's a shame that Honda engineering is spoilt by the lack of attention to the paint quality.

If I had experienced some of the other well known faults I would have been really annoyed.

Please be courteous if you see a Black Pirelli Golf in your mirrors and let me past.

Wheelchair · 11th October 2008, 20:08

You will have to let us know what the new car is like.

Maliths · 11th October 2008, 20:28

Sorry to hear you had a bad experiance with the R. Hope the gold is better for you

NEEMSTAR · 11th October 2008, 20:43

good luck with the new car

did you get the DSG ?

Nitehawk · 11th October 2008, 22:55

I received an email a couple of weeks ago from HUK relating to a dealer complaint and how customers show their dissatisfaction on forums like this one. They stated that they monitor all forums; so without being in any way rude WAKE UP HONDA YOU HAVE A LOT OF DISSATISFIED CUSTOMERS WHO NEED TO KNOW YOU ARE PUTTING THINGS RIGHT

And the F1 results show that if you don't look after the drivers............ IMO they may well leave, just like your disgruntled customers

Vet_2010 · 12th October 2008, 01:33

Sorry to hear you're giving up the Type-R but I can underdstand your frustration.
No matter how well any of us look after our Civics we can do damn all about the stone chips. Honda couldn't care less, they deliver the car with perfect paint and so as far as they're concerned any damage to it after that is down to the driver. It won't affect primary sales but it will certainly make people think twice about returning to not only the Civic but Honda as a whole!
Something as basic as painting a car should be done properly, there are no excuses for it!!

Nitehawk · 12th October 2008, 13:27

This is my second NHB Civic and they have both been full of stone chips. I have had a number of visits from my local Chipsaway guy who has readily admitted that the civics he has worked on all seem to suffer unusually with stone chips, even after admitting that Chipsaway are lready familiar with these water based finishes.
What really peed me off was I went to see a mate on Friday who now owns my 2005 Mazda 3 Sport, and he has only got 2 chips on that car

I love my Hawk but the paintwork has really put a downer on my opinion about this car. Go to your local dealer, you'll see plenty of chips on Civics

10th October 2008, 23:23	#1 (permalink)
Old StageR Valve Cap Join Date: 14th January 2008 Location: Fareham, UK Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Goodbye Type R I am getting rid of the worst car I have ever owned. The paintwork is the worst aspect as far as I am concerned and despite repeatedly complaining to the dealer and Honda UK I have not received satisfaction. Honda Customer Don't Care Department is appalling in the way it deals with problems. A change of slogan from 'No Racing No Honda' to 'No Customers No Honda' might focus their attitude. Why waste millions of pounds on a couple of no-hopers driving in Formula 1. Customers should be the first priority. However, I must say I have enjoyed the comments on this forum. I am replacing the Type R with a Pirelli Golf GTi which some people might regard as boring.

11th October 2008, 07:43	#8 (permalink)
junkan Wheelnut Join Date: 16th September 2008 Location: Boras, Sweden Posts: 63 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Seems like we are a growing bunch of people all over the world that have changed due to lack of quality. One unhappy customer spreads the words to 20-100 others. One happy customer spreads the words to 1-5 people. Something to think about for Honda! I have myself talked a couple of people out of buying the civic, they will buy the new Mazda3 och the (ugly) Toyota Auris instead. Last edited by junkan; 11th October 2008 at 09:14.

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10th October 2008, 23:25	#2 (permalink)
Dimplyred Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 24th August 2007 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 5,681 Thanks: 21 Thanked 211 Times in 204 Posts iTrader: (0)	Good luck with the new car and sorry you didn't have better luck with the CTR.

10th October 2008, 23:30	#3 (permalink)
Wheelchair Purveyor of Wit & Wisdom! Civinfo master Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 5,921 Thanks: 54 Thanked 169 Times in 160 Posts iTrader: (0)	Sorry to hear your Civic has been so bad. Good luck with your new car.

11th October 2008, 00:00	#4 (permalink)
ChillTypeR Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 17th March 2008 Location: Middlesbrough & Grantham Posts: 461 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts iTrader: (0)	Apart from the paint is did you have any other issues? Good luck with the golf aswell.

11th October 2008, 00:49	#5 (permalink)
supra-boy Valve Cap Join Date: 28th September 2008 Location: Welling Posts: 43 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I think VW's paintwork is a bit suspect aswell. And their customer service is a bit crap. And VW's is a poor mans Audi. But goodluck with your new car! To me Honda rules!!!!!!!

11th October 2008, 04:41	#6 (permalink)
u05rdh Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 7th January 2008 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (2)	I'm in the same boat. Poor paint and poor honda cusr service. Not to mention things breaking and the local dealer putting a big scratch on my door. So I bought a Focus ST-3 and love it!

11th October 2008, 05:42	#7 (permalink)
Wheelchair Purveyor of Wit & Wisdom! Civinfo master Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 5,921 Thanks: 54 Thanked 169 Times in 160 Posts iTrader: (0)	Oh dear! Sounds like Honda need to up their game a bit.

11th October 2008, 09:03	#9 (permalink)
Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,753 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	Good Luck with the new car I am sure the paintwork will be in a different league to the civic.

11th October 2008, 09:24	#10 (permalink)
HappyMan Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 16th August 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 3,604 Thanks: 30 Thanked 91 Times in 85 Posts iTrader: (0)	Sorry to hear about the problem you had with your CTR. I was talking to a guy who has a new merc yesterday, about 3 months old and he was scathing of the paint quality on it. Apparently he has numerous stone chips already! I wish you good look with the new car - you must tell what it's like, though

11th October 2008, 09:34	#11 (permalink)
robbo51 It's my fault! Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 3,877 Thanks: 66 Thanked 75 Times in 72 Posts iTrader: (0)	Good luck with the Golf..Its a cracking car... Honda do appear to not care. I'm sorry you couldnt live with car any more..Yet another Honda loss..

11th October 2008, 09:40	#12 (permalink)
Rich 11 TYPE R GT (R-15016) Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2008 Location: Kingston upon Hull (Red & White side), East Posts: 2,186 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 45 Posts iTrader: (0)	Good bye and Good Luck !!

11th October 2008, 11:03	#13 (permalink)
Robbieee The Talented Mr. Robbieee Rocketship door handle Join Date: 27th September 2007 Location: Glasvegas Posts: 1,410 Thanks: 48 Thanked 34 Times in 33 Posts iTrader: (2)	i am getting more and more peeved off with the paint issues. Only so much more i can take of it. I really know how you feel on this!

11th October 2008, 20:00	#14 (permalink)
Old StageR Valve Cap Join Date: 14th January 2008 Location: Fareham, UK Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all the comments. In response to ChillTypeR the paint finish was my only problem. It's a shame that Honda engineering is spoilt by the lack of attention to the paint quality. If I had experienced some of the other well known faults I would have been really annoyed. Please be courteous if you see a Black Pirelli Golf in your mirrors and let me past.

11th October 2008, 20:08	#15 (permalink)
Wheelchair Purveyor of Wit & Wisdom! Civinfo master Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 5,921 Thanks: 54 Thanked 169 Times in 160 Posts iTrader: (0)	You will have to let us know what the new car is like.

11th October 2008, 20:28	#16 (permalink)
Maliths Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 11th May 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 47 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Sorry to hear you had a bad experiance with the R. Hope the gold is better for you

11th October 2008, 20:43	#17 (permalink)
NEEMSTAR Type R Brigade Member Rocketship door handle Join Date: 7th October 2007 Location: In Your Mind Posts: 1,573 Thanks: 36 Thanked 27 Times in 27 Posts iTrader: (0)	good luck with the new car did you get the DSG ?

11th October 2008, 22:55	#18 (permalink)
Nitehawk Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 2nd March 2007 Location: North Cambs Posts: 121 Thanks: 44 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I received an email a couple of weeks ago from HUK relating to a dealer complaint and how customers show their dissatisfaction on forums like this one. They stated that they monitor all forums; so without being in any way rude WAKE UP HONDA YOU HAVE A LOT OF DISSATISFIED CUSTOMERS WHO NEED TO KNOW YOU ARE PUTTING THINGS RIGHT And the F1 results show that if you don't look after the drivers............ IMO they may well leave, just like your disgruntled customers

12th October 2008, 01:33	#19 (permalink)
Vet_2010 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 19th December 2007 Location: Northern Ireland / Glasgow Posts: 406 Thanks: 18 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	Sorry to hear you're giving up the Type-R but I can underdstand your frustration. No matter how well any of us look after our Civics we can do damn all about the stone chips. Honda couldn't care less, they deliver the car with perfect paint and so as far as they're concerned any damage to it after that is down to the driver. It won't affect primary sales but it will certainly make people think twice about returning to not only the Civic but Honda as a whole! Something as basic as painting a car should be done properly, there are no excuses for it!!

12th October 2008, 13:27	#20 (permalink)
Nitehawk Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 2nd March 2007 Location: North Cambs Posts: 121 Thanks: 44 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	This is my second NHB Civic and they have both been full of stone chips. I have had a number of visits from my local Chipsaway guy who has readily admitted that the civics he has worked on all seem to suffer unusually with stone chips, even after admitting that Chipsaway are lready familiar with these water based finishes. What really peed me off was I went to see a mate on Friday who now owns my 2005 Mazda 3 Sport, and he has only got 2 chips on that car I love my Hawk but the paintwork has really put a downer on my opinion about this car. Go to your local dealer, you'll see plenty of chips on Civics