I've sold the Civinfo Civic!

[Pottsy]

Goodbye to FG06 WTT, the Civinfo Civic.

After three years and 49,000 miles, the Civic has gone. All in all it was a good car, but not quite good enough to get another.

Stuff that exceeded expectations:

• The engine and gearbox were fantastic. After about 25,000 miles the diesel was as smooth as silk and as grunty as a V8. Except with the economy of a 1.2.
• The interior layout and space (with the exception of the shallow door pockets).
• The funky velvet seat material held out perfectly.
• I expected Honda dealers to be good - some were excellent.
• The satnav.

Stuff that didn't meet expectations:

• The suspension. It was not that firm, but there was no suppleness. Every bump or bit of broken road translated into a bounce or a crash. The rear dampers wore quickly making the ride deteriorate. In all, I had both front struts and both rear dampers replaced (three separate visits). Still it groaned and squeaked!
• Tramlining was unacceptable on tyres that were more than half worn.
• Steering stability round corners on bumpy roads was poor.
• Depreciation was greater than expected.
• Road noise was too great, especially on poor surfaces (like the M1).
• The radio / CD quality is poor, though this is a function of the road noise.
• I expected Honda dealers to be good - some were shocking.
• Minor quality issues were much more prolific than expected, with bits falling off or squeaking or grating.

Stuff that was just a bit annoying:

• No MP3 input.
• Flimsy door handles.
• Weak paint.
• The satnav control and temperature control were identical and easily confused.
• The starter button is a marketing ploy that's just inefficient in use.
• No individual reading lights for rear seat passengers.
• The rear spoiler got in the way occasionally.

Running costs:

Cost	Amount
New	£18,900
PX value	£8,000
Deprciation	£10,900
Fuel	£5,001
Tyres	£550
Service	£671
Tax	£390
Total cost	£17,512
Fuel cost / mile	£0.10
Total cost / mile	£0.36
Fuel cost / month	£139
Total cost / month	£486

Thank you to Holdcroft for your usual excellent service and value!

Finally some graphs:

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[TTDegs]

(yes, I know that seems a strange smilie to use...)

A great and comprehensive write up as ever Pottsy


Erm - do we start to panic yet?

[appleipop]

you gonna buy a new car? what you gonna get?

[Pottsy]

Already got it...

New, my favourite engine, proper independent suspension (and with a huge boot), and the toys of the Civic EX, less road noise....

[Brodick]

what about the Mrs - was she not driving the civic?
Just answered my own Question a CR-V eh ( always knew you were a man with good taste !)

[Bungle]

Originally Posted by Pottsy

Already got it...

New, my favourite engine, proper independent suspension (and with a huge boot), and the toys of the Civic EX, less road noise....

So what is it??

[Pottsy]

Originally Posted by Bungle

So what is it??

Another Civic replaced by a CRV

[dave87]

Oh noes!


Heh as long as you don't go doing anything wacky with the forum address, I think we'll be fine.

Oh, and are you sure you are an airline pilot? You look a bit more like an accountant from this post...

[Guitaralmond]

Did you leave a flyer hidden somewhere for the next owner??

[Honcho]

I get the feeling, Pottsy, that if the suspension were half decent you'd have forgiven much of the rest.

That, plus the diabolical i-Shift, were what mainly did it for me.

[Pottsy]

Originally Posted by Honcho

I get the feeling, Pottsy, that if the suspension were half decent you'd have forgiven much of the rest.

Absolutely. The rest was all fixed by the time I'd finished - and the car was really very good in all areas except the suspension. I would have either kept this one, or bought a new one. But the suspension was as bad as the rest of the car was good.

Jayne will be driving the CRV mostly - I just do my 165 miles a day in the Accord.

[martin_1.8]

So now Are We going to be crVinfo.com ?
As far the most important ciVinfo civic has gone .

Congratulations on the new car. Enjoy it

[wellzie74]

Big man got the big wheels eh, Think your gonna need a C.B if you go any bigger than that later. Pic sir, you more than anyone know that score!!!

[HappyMan]

Originally Posted by Pottsy

Another Civic replaced by a CRV

Originally Posted by wellzie74

Big man got the big wheels eh, Think your gonna need a C.B if you go any bigger than that later. Pic sir, you more than anyone know that score!!!

Check those out

[Jobo]

Methinks you are trying to distance yourself from Pottsy Junior's drawing!

Now Jayne will need a step ladder to fill up!

Good luck with the new vehicle. I've still got my 06 but with Green Flag cover!

Hints for the VW have fallen on deaf ears!

[Robbieee]

What toys has it got Pottsy?

[Kremmen]

Reading your list of 'The Good, The Bad and The Ugly' I am now convinced that we have the same opnion of the Civic.

The only difference is that I had to go for the 1.8 as I like not changing gear myself.

Unless the deal was a corker I also won't be replacing like for like and will be looking for a far better suspension setup next time.

Still intruged in what the replacement is.

[Pottsy]

Originally Posted by Jobo

Hints for the VW have fallen on deaf ears!

And it was my dropping hints to Jayne about a VW... Took her to see the Golf, which she didn't like the look of. In a stroke of genius I thought Scirrocco, but it was too cramped as a family car. And Jayne just kept getting drawn towards the Tiguan, which I didn't like. So a nice compromise was met.

Originally Posted by Robbieee

What toys has it got Pottsy?

Same as a Civic EX with roof and leather, but it has projector halogens not basic HIDs, card reader and 3.5mm aux in.

[Kremmen]

This post should be in the 'Guess the Car' thread

[mindstorm]

Originally Posted by dave87

Oh, and are you sure you are an airline pilot? You look a bit more like an accountant from this post...

It's the hours we have with nothing to do in the air

I just read Nuts instead.