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CHRIS REDPATH · 10th May 2007, 19:17

when i bought my civic i had the demonstration car for an hour from francis honda narborough drove down to vauxhall and drove it along side top of the range vauxhall astra.
leathers 18 inch wheels the works .
guess what i bought the civic hands down and i bet if you get francis honda to lend you a type r for the hour go down to ford park it up along side your beloved ford get in and out and in and out and compare and study then put your civic pitures up when you get it delivered.
c-ya later guys
chris

Topcat · 10th May 2007, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by elfa7

Its common because its a very good car. I never had a problem with either Focus that I owned.
And I only went to the dealer when they needed servicing. With the Honda, I think its been back about eight times. So its not without its problems.

Im the same with you there with both the Focus and the Civic, but I have to admit the Type R is a far better looking car than the ST.

lippy · 10th May 2007, 21:15

I have had two Focus, both 2.0, a zetec and a ghia. Nothing wrong with either but the finish is so much better in the Civic. I sort of drifted to the focus as we had mondeos before - the looks of the focus were 'sharp' and different when it was first released but is so bland now.

Get a civic - you know it makes sense!!!!!!!

czechplastik · 10th May 2007, 23:29

I'm just going to assume Mark was intoxicated and this was all a big joke. (although not a funny one).

Mark996 · 11th May 2007, 00:37

Sorry CP, I was and am still 100% sober.......I really wasn't execting so much advice.....albeit quite a lot biased (to be expected I guess).......!!!!!!

BTW, anyone know the current waiting time on a Type R?? I've been quoted 8-10 weeks for an ST-3 in the spec I would like......

czechplastik · 11th May 2007, 01:03

It's probably fairly similar for the R, again I guess it depends on what spec you want, maybe 10-12 weeks, going by the 5 door waiting time.

Griffyn · 11th May 2007, 01:07

Type-R is by far the better car in my opinion. But you should test drive them both and see which you prefer. At the end of the day you have to live with it :P

For me the Type-R is:
1. Has the best engine out of the hot hatches
2. Is the most fun to drive
3. Best looking hot hatch
4. Love the interior

Im sure there is more but I am tired.

My CTR took 7 weeks to arrive. But depends on the dealer as each dealership is only allocated so many CTRs. Try a few to get the best delivery time.

czechplastik · 11th May 2007, 01:25

All depends whether you want...

Or....

Mark996 · 11th May 2007, 08:38

Nice one CP, those pics really speak volumes......the interior shots REALLY do tell a story don't they?!........

I think I'm gonna have to book a test drive in both, as suggested by a couple of members.

As the Type R hasn't been out that long, I'm guessing that it's unlikely I'm going to find an ex-demo one for sale just yet, right?? (Thus voiding the 10 (!!??!!) week wait)

As for the other photos, I certainly wouldn't go for THAT orange colour, as -

1. It's by far the most common colour for ST's
2. I think ford charging over £600 for some paint is daylight robbery

So my choice would be 'Ice White', with the 'ST' side stripes, as I've never actually seen a white one on the road.

Please note : I said SIDE stripes, NOT the bonnet, roof and rear stripes......I'm not THAT chav you know!!!!!!

okehciv · 11th May 2007, 08:52

Was talking to a dealer last week about their type R demo and was told "every car is for sale " not that I could afford it

Obo · 11th May 2007, 10:17

The wheels on that Focus are possibly the ugliest I've seen, and even with the touch screen sat nav the interior is bland by Civic standards.

If I'd never seen the civic I have to admit I would've gone for another Focus (not an ST this time though) even with the problems I had with the last one. But once I saw the civic nothing else compared!

Foggy69 · 11th May 2007, 10:52

I would expect the car that Tiff drove on Fifth Gear is probably going cheap as a demo if you want to risk it

THX1138 · 11th May 2007, 12:04

If Honda would make the wheels on that Yellow CTR an option, the balance would go over to the CTR even more then it already is.
And talking about better looking, the Orange on the ST might be something no everyone would choose. But if you like extraordinary colors, the yellow on the CTR is by far the better choice. Too bad they don't do a yellow CTR though.

So all I'm saying might be true, but completely useless and unrealistic.
But the CTR is still the better choice.

Charles_Harding · 11th May 2007, 13:46

Now that's sorted get down to the shops before they sell out.

"I don't think that there is intelligent life anywhere else in the universe. Why should any other planet be different from this one?

Charles H.

czechplastik · 11th May 2007, 16:42

I picked the yellow because it was more extreme, showed off the differences better!

Personal choice Mark, drive them both, but you know which one we prefer!

p.s speak to Dawson, he recently converted from an ST!

sco77harris · 11th May 2007, 17:29

mark to sum it up type - r wins hands down

also you would have to leave us if you got the ford

dont do it

sprkeh · 11th May 2007, 19:53

why would anyone ever consider a Ford (even if it is a Focus ST) over a Honda? (especially a TypeR)

czechplastik · 11th May 2007, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprkeh

why would anyone ever consider a Ford (even if it is a Focus ST) over a Honda? (especially a TypeR)

Money? The Civics are relatively expensive.

Jim B · 11th May 2007, 21:11

And because my damn leasing company says the Type R is an extreme sports car while the Ford is just a GT. So I'm now having to make a hard choice between the two. Both are very rare here though and if I have to take the Ford it will be in Electric Orange. I agree on the feeling of interior quality being far higher in the Honda, though for me the seats were much better in the Ford (more leg support, longer seat cushion)
Steering and turn in much better in the Honda but low down torque very nice in the Ford...

Pabtyper · 11th May 2007, 22:18

I have been a performance Vauxhall buyer for the last ten years
Then decided to try something diferent
Tried the following Marques :
Renault - poor cabins
Seat - Even worse
Vauxhall(again)- power too off/ on
Ford - No thank you
Honda - Pick the baby up tommorrow
Just look at the interior that will be enough to sell it to you - nothing compares
On other forums they talk about power - power - power
When buying a car it comes down to more than that ! The whole package is what counts

You've got to love th whole experience - Thats HONDA for you!

10th May 2007, 19:17	#21 (permalink)
CHRIS REDPATH Valve Cap Join Date: 18th March 2007 Location: leicester Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	sold it when i bought my civic i had the demonstration car for an hour from francis honda narborough drove down to vauxhall and drove it along side top of the range vauxhall astra. leathers 18 inch wheels the works . guess what i bought the civic hands down and i bet if you get francis honda to lend you a type r for the hour go down to ford park it up along side your beloved ford get in and out and in and out and compare and study then put your civic pitures up when you get it delivered. c-ya later guys chris

11th May 2007, 01:25	#28 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	All depends whether you want... Or.... Or....

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10th May 2007, 21:15	#23 (permalink)
lippy Bournemouth Belle Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th January 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 414 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	I have had two Focus, both 2.0, a zetec and a ghia. Nothing wrong with either but the finish is so much better in the Civic. I sort of drifted to the focus as we had mondeos before - the looks of the focus were 'sharp' and different when it was first released but is so bland now. Get a civic - you know it makes sense!!!!!!!

10th May 2007, 23:29	#24 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm just going to assume Mark was intoxicated and this was all a big joke. (although not a funny one).

11th May 2007, 00:37	#25 (permalink)
Mark996 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 11th April 2006 Location: Nottingham, Notts. Posts: 451 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Sorry CP, I was and am still 100% sober.......I really wasn't execting so much advice.....albeit quite a lot biased (to be expected I guess).......!!!!!! BTW, anyone know the current waiting time on a Type R?? I've been quoted 8-10 weeks for an ST-3 in the spec I would like......

11th May 2007, 01:03	#26 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's probably fairly similar for the R, again I guess it depends on what spec you want, maybe 10-12 weeks, going by the 5 door waiting time.

11th May 2007, 01:07	#27 (permalink)
Griffyn Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd March 2007 Location: Nr. Portsmouth Posts: 83 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Type-R is by far the better car in my opinion. But you should test drive them both and see which you prefer. At the end of the day you have to live with it :P For me the Type-R is: 1. Has the best engine out of the hot hatches 2. Is the most fun to drive 3. Best looking hot hatch 4. Love the interior Im sure there is more but I am tired. My CTR took 7 weeks to arrive. But depends on the dealer as each dealership is only allocated so many CTRs. Try a few to get the best delivery time.

11th May 2007, 08:38	#29 (permalink)
Mark996 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 11th April 2006 Location: Nottingham, Notts. Posts: 451 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Nice one CP, those pics really speak volumes......the interior shots REALLY do tell a story don't they?!........ I think I'm gonna have to book a test drive in both, as suggested by a couple of members. As the Type R hasn't been out that long, I'm guessing that it's unlikely I'm going to find an ex-demo one for sale just yet, right?? (Thus voiding the 10 (!!??!!) week wait) As for the other photos, I certainly wouldn't go for THAT orange colour, as - 1. It's by far the most common colour for ST's 2. I think ford charging over £600 for some paint is daylight robbery So my choice would be 'Ice White', with the 'ST' side stripes, as I've never actually seen a white one on the road. Please note : I said SIDE stripes, NOT the bonnet, roof and rear stripes......I'm not THAT chav you know!!!!!!

11th May 2007, 08:52	#30 (permalink)
okehciv Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 21st January 2007 Location: shaw gtr manchester Posts: 941 Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Was talking to a dealer last week about their type R demo and was told "every car is for sale " not that I could afford it

11th May 2007, 10:17	#31 (permalink)
Obo Rusty Nut! Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 15th March 2007 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 615 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The wheels on that Focus are possibly the ugliest I've seen, and even with the touch screen sat nav the interior is bland by Civic standards. If I'd never seen the civic I have to admit I would've gone for another Focus (not an ST this time though) even with the problems I had with the last one. But once I saw the civic nothing else compared!

11th May 2007, 10:52	#32 (permalink)
Foggy69 Vivid Blue Rocks!!! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th December 2006 Location: Westerham Posts: 1,061 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	I would expect the car that Tiff drove on Fifth Gear is probably going cheap as a demo if you want to risk it

11th May 2007, 12:04	#33 (permalink)
THX1138 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 2nd March 2007 Location: Den Haag, The Netherlands Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If Honda would make the wheels on that Yellow CTR an option, the balance would go over to the CTR even more then it already is. And talking about better looking, the Orange on the ST might be something no everyone would choose. But if you like extraordinary colors, the yellow on the CTR is by far the better choice. Too bad they don't do a yellow CTR though. So all I'm saying might be true, but completely useless and unrealistic. But the CTR is still the better choice.

11th May 2007, 13:46	#34 (permalink)
Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 3,288 Thanks: 113 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Now that's sorted get down to the shops before they sell out. *"I don't think that there is intelligent life anywhere else in the universe. Why should any other planet be different from this one?* Charles H.

11th May 2007, 16:42	#35 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I picked the yellow because it was more extreme, showed off the differences better! Personal choice Mark, drive them both, but you know which one we prefer! p.s speak to Dawson, he recently converted from an ST!

11th May 2007, 17:29	#36 (permalink)
sco77harris Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th June 2006 Location: stanmore london Posts: 978 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	mark to sum it up type - r wins hands down also you would have to leave us if you got the ford dont do it

11th May 2007, 19:53	#37 (permalink)
sprkeh Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 5th May 2007 Location: Gods Own Land - Belfast Posts: 107 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	why would anyone ever consider a Ford (even if it is a Focus ST) over a Honda? (especially a TypeR)

11th May 2007, 21:11	#39 (permalink)
Jim B Valve Cap Join Date: 19th April 2007 Location: Kungsbacka, Sweden Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	And because my damn leasing company says the Type R is an extreme sports car while the Ford is just a GT. So I'm now having to make a hard choice between the two. Both are very rare here though and if I have to take the Ford it will be in Electric Orange. I agree on the feeling of interior quality being far higher in the Honda, though for me the seats were much better in the Ford (more leg support, longer seat cushion) Steering and turn in much better in the Honda but low down torque very nice in the Ford...

11th May 2007, 22:18	#40 (permalink)
Pabtyper Valve Cap Join Date: 10th May 2007 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have been a performance Vauxhall buyer for the last ten years Then decided to try something diferent Tried the following Marques : Renault - poor cabins Seat - Even worse Vauxhall(again)- power too off/ on Ford - No thank you Honda - Pick the baby up tommorrow Just look at the interior that will be enough to sell it to you - nothing compares On other forums they talk about power - power - power When buying a car it comes down to more than that ! The whole package is what counts You've got to love th whole experience - Thats HONDA for you!