Rear shock absorber.

[pcr]

I am enquiring as to the price of a rear shock absorber for a 2006 Honda Civic 1.8 EX. I wiil collect.
Thankyou.

[Holdcroft_Honda]

The shock Absorber is £71.11 inc VAT, and the damper is £19.77.

Any reason why you can't claim these under warranty?

We would also need to know what size wheels you have at the moment.

[pcr]

Thankyou for your prompt reply.
My dealer has looked at this twice and doesn't think it needs replacing.
Wheels are 17".
Please can you tell me if the damper is the rubber bushing at the top mounting point ?
How can I place an order ?
Thanks again.

[Holdcroft_Honda]

Number 1 is the Shock Absorber
Number 2 is the Damper

You can order by either phoning with a card
Sending a cheque or postal order
or by Paypal.

Couldn't you just go to another dealer though??? If the car isn't right I don't see why you should spend your own money on fixing it.

[cylon2007]

Originally Posted by Holdcroft_Honda

Number 1 is the Shock Absorber
Number 2 is the Damper

You can order by either phoning with a card
Sending a cheque or postal order
or by Paypal.

Couldn't you just go to another dealer though??? If the car isn't right I don't see why you should spend your own money on fixing it.

Erm excuse me but No 1 is the Spring and number 2 is the shock absorber (also know as a damper).

BTW as a dealer shouldn't you also be advising that shockabsorbers should always be replaced in pairs not individually?????

[Holdcroft_Honda]

Originally Posted by cylon2007

Erm excuse me but No 1 is the Spring and number 2 is the shock absorber (also know as a damper).

If you are going to try and be a smart Alec at least get your facts right.

The spring absorbs the shock, whilst the damper dampens the oscillations from the spring.

As regards replacing both sides, I would of advised that via pm once the customer had confirmed that they wanted to pay for the items themselves rather than go down the route of trying to claim under warranty via an alternate dealer.

Not that any of this is your business anyway.

[cylon2007]

Originally Posted by Holdcroft_Honda

If you are going to try and be a smart Alec at least get your facts right.

The spring absorbs the shock, whilst the damper dampens the oscillations from the spring.

As regards replacing both sides, I would of advised that via pm once the customer had confirmed that they wanted to pay for the items themselves rather than go down the route of trying to claim under warranty via an alternate dealer.

Not that any of this is your business anyway.

I believe my facts are correct, item 1 is a spring, it is quite clearly a spring i.e. a coil of spring steel (while you are correct in saying it absorbs the shock it is misleading to refer to it that way) and it is referred to as a spring.

Item 2 is the shock absorber/damper and again as you quite rightly say it dampens the oscillations of the spring. What I am trying to say is that shock absorber/Damper are interchangeable as they are in fact the same item.


I was trying to be helpful not to upset anyone.

[Holdcroft_Honda]

[quote=cylon2007;101601]I believe my facts are correct [quote]

Well, they are not.

[cylon2007]

[quote=Holdcroft_Honda;101603][quote=cylon2007;101601]I believe my facts are correct

Well, they are not.

OK if you don't believe me how about Eibach who I am sure you will agree have many many years of experience with supension.

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Springs Eibach Springs - Performance Suspension, Lowering Springs, Shocks, Sway Bars, Coil-Overs and Wheel Spacers!

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Koni again many many years experience in suspension

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There are many other examples I can show you. I am afraid it is you that has his facts wrong. So please check your facts before accusing others of being 'Smart Alec'.

You (I am assuming I am talking to an individual BTW) may be a car dealer but even you can be wrong, refer to things incorrectly.

I do hope you don't use the same tone to your customers as you have used in the replies to me.

As I said in the first instance I was tying to be helpful to avoid possible confusion.

Please do not think this is a personal attack but I do believe that in a public forum it is very very important that facts are used not an approximation.

[Holdcroft_Honda]

That is not correct, by definition of the words "shock absorber", how exactly do they absorb the shock? they don't, they dampen the oscillation of the shock absorber.

Run a car with no dampers and the initial shock will be treated, although for the next 200 yards you will be bouncing around all over the road, as there is nothing to counteract the spring motion. Hence damper.



The links you have provided even show my point if you read through them (by the way, do you call your boot lid a trunk?).



As regards my tone with yourself. Please, how would you like it if I were to come around to your place of work and say “err....excuse me but.......”. Your original post was not one of offering help, it was one that you posted trying to get one over a dealer judging from the context used. If your original post was worded a little less agressive, I may of listened to your point more. I just don't need it.

There is no us (us being me a dealer) and them with me on this forum, when members ring me I do enjoy a good chat with them. Sometimes for more than half an hour lol.

[cylon2007]

Originally Posted by Holdcroft_Honda

That is not correct, by definition of the words "shock absorber", how exactly do they absorb the shock? they don't, they dampen the oscillation of the shock absorber.

Run a car with no dampers and the initial shock will be treated, although for the next 200 yards you will be bouncing around all over the road, as there is nothing to counteract the spring motion. Hence damper.

Sorry but you are confusing what a spring is with what it does, a spring is the coiled steel that as you say initially takes the shock, it however doesn't absorb it but converts the energy into movement and if unchecked will bounce up and down for a while.

A Shockabsorber (the name by which it goes) is defined as follows: Shock absorbers - definition of Shock absorbers by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

shock absorber: Definition and Much More from Answers.com

shock absorber: definition, usage and pronunciation - YourDictionary.com

SHOCK ABSORBER

Definition: A device that converts motion into heat, usually by forcing oil through small internal passages in a tubular housing. Used primarily to dampen suspension oscillations, shock absorbers respond to motion; their effects, therefore, are most obvious in transient maneuvers.

this could go on for days BUT the Shock Absorber (also known quite correctly as a damper) is a Hydraulic device (in automotive circles) as per the definition(s) above and it is this that controls the reation of the SPRING to the bumps a vehicle travels over.

So the bottom line is as far as we are concerend when talking about car suspension the Shock Absorber and Damper are exactly the same item and the spring is the boingy bit.

And why the hell would I call a boot a trunk I'm not american nor do I live over there, if I did I wouldn't have a Civic of this model would I

[Holdcroft_Honda]

Lets just agree to disagree. I'm not spending anmore time with this, i have confirmed what i have wrote with our master tech and that is as good as it gets as far as i am concerned.

[cylon2007]

with me

[Cookie]

good bit of banter there lads