Thinking about an Accord Tourer - looking for advice/good dealers

The Governor · 5th July 2009, 10:53

Hey all,

Just registered as I'm starting to think about having a proper look at the Accord as my next car.

I currently drive an '08 320i Touring, which is alright, but a bit dull and really needs to be a 330i to be exciting.

I can't really afford a 330i, and haven't been over-impressed with BMW dealers in general, plus I've had two BMW's in a row and fancy a change.

I had completely disregarded the Accord on looks alone, until I saw the new '09 Touring with the rounded back, making it look less like an aircraft hangar on wheels

Anyway, I'd just like to get a feel for the models to go for, things I should take into account (any niggles etc?) and also of course, any decent dealers in the South?

I definitely want something quick, not especially bothered about having a diesel, and would seriously consider the 2.4 engine if it is a stonker.

Ideally I'd like to buy a low mileage ex-dem, but wouldn't disregard buying new. Because I like the sporty skirts I imagine getting an ex-dem might be harder as I imagine they come in the more standard trim on the whole?

Any and all advice would be gratefully received, I'm not in a rish to buy, and cost to change will be important, so I'm biding my time.

wassap · 6th July 2009, 11:43

If it helps most of the dealers Ive been to have had the GT trim models more than the std models.

Im having a Diesel, but its not as good imo as the old CDTI, the petrol is also a bit hit and miss for me, certainly not as good as the bigger offerings from BMW, rest of the car is great but I think Honda are missing a trick with the small engine range, funnily enough the yanks and the arabs get some proper powerplants.

tor · 6th July 2009, 12:43

Hi
The 2.4 petrol is a very good unit, smooth & powerful. I had the previous model accord which was a very good car, with excellent traction in snow. I managed about 22 -24mpg which wasn't bad. The new accord tourer looks great from the outside. I think the inside looks a little cluttered, though I am sure it will work well in practice. Where the accord is let down is in the quality of plastic trim & low grade carpets. I suppose its all down to mass production & price.
It will have the usual solid reliability, and yes the dealers are generally a little friendlier than the equivalent BMW staff.
That said I believe the BMW may be a better car. I can only base this on my experience with a 325i Touring. Perhaps not as much room as the Honda. Lovely Strait 6 though. BMW is Horrible in Snow. The Handling of the BMW is generally better, perhaps a little stiffer. Paint and Interior certainly superior on the BMW.
I got 25mpg from the 2.5 (6).
This said I now have the Diesel Civic which is a good car, though I am seriously missing my BMW at times.
I always come back to Honda for reliability & Dealer service. (This is my 4th Civic, I have had 2 Accords, & 1 Integra R).
I don't know why Honda don't develop a V6 Diesel Motor of about 3.2 ltr. This could challenge the large German monopoly in this area. The Interiors could do with moving up a notch too, though the seats are very good.

All the best with your choice
Tor

FWH · 6th July 2009, 12:46

Dealership feedback - Civinfo Wiki

wassap · 6th July 2009, 13:51

Plastics on the new accord are on a par with the current 3 series ime, the dash is cluttered but everything is well placed and you have no bleedin Idrive or MMI to fiddle with (and this is coming from a self certified geek), it took me a day to get used all of the buttons.

The Governor · 6th July 2009, 18:47

Thanks guys, really like that dealer Wiki, very handy.

Is there a consensus on the best engine of the bunch? Oh, and what could I expect in terms of discount on a new one if I went for that?

The Governor · 7th July 2009, 12:17

Got a new installment to report

I took a 2.0 EX Saloon out today - which was quite nice. It wasn't punchy enough for me in power terms and it was an auto and I prefer the manual gearbox.

From a comfort point of view it was lovely, well appointed, full leather, dual climate etc.

I've seen www.drivethedeal.com do a 2.4 EX Saloon for £19100 so I've put an enquiry in.

The problem with buying through a broker is that I'm unlikely to be able to trade my car in, so then I have to sell it priivately, which means I should get more for it, but it's a lot more hassle (and does anyone really put £15k across the kitchen table these days?).

If I had £20k disposable cash I'd buy it and sell my car leisurely, but I need one to fund the other really...

pekwah1 · 15th July 2009, 20:07

The 2.0 petrol is gutless. you should still consider the 2.2 diesel. It's surprisingly smooth for a diesel and has a good amount of poke. One of the characteristics of honda petrol engines (the vtec range anyway) has always kind of been that you really need it in the rev range to get any decent punch out of it.
Diesels on the other hand have loads of low down torque so great for overtaking without needing to change down a gear.

Saying all this, i haven't driven the 2.4 so could be good.....!

Good luck with the hunting!

The Governor · 17th July 2009, 16:07

Cheers pekwah - I am considering a diesel as I understand the difference between it and the 2.4 is fairly minimal.

Just need to find a good deal really...

5th July 2009, 10:53	#1 (permalink)
The Governor Join Date: 5th July 2009 Location: UK, Southampton Posts: 8 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thinking about an Accord Tourer - looking for advice/good dealers Hey all, Just registered as I'm starting to think about having a proper look at the Accord as my next car. I currently drive an '08 320i Touring, which is alright, but a bit dull and really needs to be a 330i to be exciting. I can't really afford a 330i, and haven't been over-impressed with BMW dealers in general, plus I've had two BMW's in a row and fancy a change. I had completely disregarded the Accord on looks alone, until I saw the new '09 Touring with the rounded back, making it look less like an aircraft hangar on wheels Anyway, I'd just like to get a feel for the models to go for, things I should take into account (any niggles etc?) and also of course, any decent dealers in the South? I definitely want something quick, not especially bothered about having a diesel, and would seriously consider the 2.4 engine if it is a stonker. Ideally I'd like to buy a low mileage ex-dem, but wouldn't disregard buying new. Because I like the sporty skirts I imagine getting an ex-dem might be harder as I imagine they come in the more standard trim on the whole? Any and all advice would be gratefully received, I'm not in a rish to buy, and cost to change will be important, so I'm biding my time.

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6th July 2009, 11:43	#2 (permalink)
wassap Join Date: 13th December 2008 Location: England Posts: 48 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	If it helps most of the dealers Ive been to have had the GT trim models more than the std models. Im having a Diesel, but its not as good imo as the old CDTI, the petrol is also a bit hit and miss for me, certainly not as good as the bigger offerings from BMW, rest of the car is great but I think Honda are missing a trick with the small engine range, funnily enough the yanks and the arabs get some proper powerplants.

6th July 2009, 12:43	#3 (permalink)
tor Join Date: 28th November 2008 Location: Mars Posts: 27 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Hi The 2.4 petrol is a very good unit, smooth & powerful. I had the previous model accord which was a very good car, with excellent traction in snow. I managed about 22 -24mpg which wasn't bad. The new accord tourer looks great from the outside. I think the inside looks a little cluttered, though I am sure it will work well in practice. Where the accord is let down is in the quality of plastic trim & low grade carpets. I suppose its all down to mass production & price. It will have the usual solid reliability, and yes the dealers are generally a little friendlier than the equivalent BMW staff. That said I believe the BMW may be a better car. I can only base this on my experience with a 325i Touring. Perhaps not as much room as the Honda. Lovely Strait 6 though. BMW is Horrible in Snow. The Handling of the BMW is generally better, perhaps a little stiffer. Paint and Interior certainly superior on the BMW. I got 25mpg from the 2.5 (6). This said I now have the Diesel Civic which is a good car, though I am seriously missing my BMW at times. I always come back to Honda for reliability & Dealer service. (This is my 4th Civic, I have had 2 Accords, & 1 Integra R). I don't know why Honda don't develop a V6 Diesel Motor of about 3.2 ltr. This could challenge the large German monopoly in this area. The Interiors could do with moving up a notch too, though the seats are very good. All the best with your choice Tor

6th July 2009, 12:46	#4 (permalink)
FWH Super Moderator Car: MX-5 & V70 Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Where Polar Bears roam the streets Posts: 22,078 Thanks given: 507 Thanked 962 Times in 724 Posts iTrader: (0)	Dealership feedback - Civinfo Wiki

6th July 2009, 13:51	#5 (permalink)
wassap Join Date: 13th December 2008 Location: England Posts: 48 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Plastics on the new accord are on a par with the current 3 series ime, the dash is cluttered but everything is well placed and you have no bleedin Idrive or MMI to fiddle with (and this is coming from a self certified geek), it took me a day to get used all of the buttons.

6th July 2009, 18:47	#6 (permalink)
The Governor Thread starter Join Date: 5th July 2009 Location: UK, Southampton Posts: 8 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys, really like that dealer Wiki, very handy. Is there a consensus on the best engine of the bunch? Oh, and what could I expect in terms of discount on a new one if I went for that?

7th July 2009, 12:17	#7 (permalink)
The Governor Thread starter Join Date: 5th July 2009 Location: UK, Southampton Posts: 8 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Got a new installment to report I took a 2.0 EX Saloon out today - which was quite nice. It wasn't punchy enough for me in power terms and it was an auto and I prefer the manual gearbox. From a comfort point of view it was lovely, well appointed, full leather, dual climate etc. I've seen www.drivethedeal.com do a 2.4 EX Saloon for £19100 so I've put an enquiry in. The problem with buying through a broker is that I'm unlikely to be able to trade my car in, so then I have to sell it priivately, which means I should get more for it, but it's a lot more hassle (and does anyone really put £15k across the kitchen table these days?). If I had £20k disposable cash I'd buy it and sell my car leisurely, but I need one to fund the other really...

15th July 2009, 20:07	#8 (permalink)
pekwah1 ><((('> o O Join Date: 11th July 2007 Location: Horsham Posts: 252 Thanks given: 1 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (1)	The 2.0 petrol is gutless. you should still consider the 2.2 diesel. It's surprisingly smooth for a diesel and has a good amount of poke. One of the characteristics of honda petrol engines (the vtec range anyway) has always kind of been that you really need it in the rev range to get any decent punch out of it. Diesels on the other hand have loads of low down torque so great for overtaking without needing to change down a gear. Saying all this, i haven't driven the 2.4 so could be good.....! Good luck with the hunting!

17th July 2009, 16:07	#9 (permalink)
The Governor Thread starter Join Date: 5th July 2009 Location: UK, Southampton Posts: 8 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Cheers pekwah - I am considering a diesel as I understand the difference between it and the 2.4 is fairly minimal. Just need to find a good deal really...