[HOW TO] Install non OEM parking sensors - and save £250!!!!

[mattlittle]

Originally Posted by opjepass

@mattlittle: its exactly the same system I got, and I think its the original
cisbo 4 senor kit that the thread is based on.

So in my opinion, u`r absolutely right...!

Cheers - just ordered them now!

[opjepass]

Hey guys,
I started trying to install my Cisbo`s today.
Removed all the screws, pins, clips, etc. like posted in the thread, so I think that the bumper should be prepared to be removed right now.
But then my problem appeared:
I do absolutely not have any idea of how to remove the bumper.
I tryed pulling, pushing, shaking, was trying smooth and gently, then used abit of power, but in now way I tried to get the bumper off I had success.
The manual says: The bumper needs to be pushed forward and the forward most edge prised out each side (See photo XX).
Which photo shows this? I can`t find one.

Please guys, can someone of you who have already installed the Cisbo`s tell me what exactly to do to get the bumper off?
Has anybody of you made some additional pics that show what to do?

Any help would be really appreciated...

Thanks a lot, yours opjepass

[Greedy]

Originally Posted by opjepass

Hey guys,
I started trying to install my Cisbo`s today.
Removed all the screws, pins, clips, etc. like posted in the thread, so I think that the bumper should be prepared to be removed right now.
But then my problem appeared:
I do absolutely not have any idea of how to remove the bumper.
I tryed pulling, pushing, shaking, was trying smooth and gently, then used abit of power, but in now way I tried to get the bumper off I had success.
The manual says: The bumper needs to be pushed forward and the forward most edge prised out each side (See photo XX).
Which photo shows this? I can`t find one.

Please guys, can someone of you who have already installed the Cisbo`s tell me what exactly to do to get the bumper off?
Has anybody of you made some additional pics that show what to do?

Any help would be really appreciated...

Thanks a lot, yours opjepass

Been a while so look out for a better post but as you seem desperate then following advise migth help

Having undone the screws under the back edge of the rr wheel arch you should see that the bumper slots in to a plastic bracket which is attached to the metal of the w/arch. You need to ease the bumper out of that so it is then proud of the car then the bumper should be able to move backwards.

Think that's right but as I say it's been a while. Anyone else?

[opjepass]

Hi guys!

Job done!!!

I`ve fitted my sensors during the last two days.
Having some problems removing the bumper (thanks to all of you who pm`ed me to help me out) and the trim inside the car.
That was quite hard because I`ve got a 3 door car (like the Type R version),
so there are no back doors to open and the trim is one piece beginning at the passengers door ending at the end of the trunk.
So it took me a while to understand how to get access to the connector with the brown reversing-light-cable.

But finally, everything works fine!

I`m going to add some pics during the next days, but at the moment I`m too tired...

Have a nice evening, thanks again for all the the help and this useful thread!

Best regards, yours opjepass

[mattlittle]

Originally Posted by opjepass

Hi guys!

Job done!!!

I`ve fitted my sensors during the last two days.
Having some problems removing the bumper (thanks to all of you who pm`ed me to help me out) and the trim inside the car.
That was quite hard because I`ve got a 3 door car (like the Type R version),
so there are no back doors to open and the trim is one piece beginning at the passengers door ending at the end of the trunk.
So it took me a while to understand how to get access to the connector with the brown reversing-light-cable.

But finally, everything works fine!

I`m going to add some pics during the next days, but at the moment I`m too tired...

Have a nice evening, thanks again for all the the help and this useful thread!

Best regards, yours opjepass

I'll be doing my 5 door in the next couple of weeks, so the more photos/help the better!

[pjelsworth]

Originally Posted by burnblaze

I was thinking of the Taurus System.....

Have got one on order and will post when installing....

How did you get on with this? My local car electronics place told me they were a problem when the bumper is wet.
I am looking forward to hearing from anyone who has used this, as it looks like a great solution.

[opjepass]

Here`s a pic of the plastic clip, which fixes the left and right side of the bumper.
This piece of plastic is mounted over the rear wheel arches, where the bumper ends and the metal-body of the car starts.
The picture shows the right side of the car, the bumper is already taken off.

In the red circles I marked the four little plastic clips, which are fixing the bumper in its position.
This is where the pumper needs to be pushed in a little bit (sitting in front of the wheel just push straigt against the bumper-end)
and in the same moment the bumper needs to be pushed forward (that means to the front of the car).
Thats the way to unclip the edges of the bumper.

I`m sorry, I can`t explain it with better words...
But together with the pic I think that everyone having the same probs as myself is able to disconnect the bumper right now!

So, good luck for those who are going to do this work, enjoy your sensors,

best regards, yours opjepass

[martin8]

Originally Posted by nic283

Hi Martin, the silver ones are perfect for Alabaster. I'll try and get a pic up later but it looks just like Aubrey's...

Thanks nic I have ordered the CISBO parking sensor and they are currently being fitted to my Type-S GT. Although I gave them to Honda to fit.

I will be taking delivery of my vehicle this Saturday.

[martin8]

My CISBO parking sensors not working when fitted, when in reverse it will beep however when getting close to an object it will not detect.

Any ideas.

[opjepass]

@martin8:

you cant check the system like follows:
Disconnect all four sensors from the control-box, then put in the reversing gear and check what the system does.
If it works proberly (I think it should beep one and than be quiet), one of the sensors might be damaged.
So just connect one sensor and try it again. If it works, check the other sensors in the same way to find the one which might be damaged.

If every one of the four sensors do work properly when connected alone, they are ok, so the failure must be in the box.
So check out the connectors of the box using one working sensor with each of the four sensor-connectors of the box
(one connector after the other). You might find the damaged connector this way, if there is one.

Hope you can locate the bug.

Let us know what happened while checking...

[opjepass]

@martin8 again:

I didn`t read your post above (thought you fitted them yourself):
You said you gave your car to the dealer to get the sensors fitted?!
So just go back to the dealer and tell him that he had done a bad job and
that you want him to check out the problem and repair it immediately!!

If he is not able to get the system working correctly, just take back the money you paid for fitting!

Good luck

[mattlittle]

Originally Posted by martin8

My CISBO parking sensors not working when fitted, when in reverse it will beep however when getting close to an object it will not detect.

Any ideas.

I'd love to hear what it was when you find out!

[martin8]

Originally Posted by opjepass

@martin8:

you cant check the system like follows:
Disconnect all four sensors from the control-box, then put in the reversing gear and check what the system does.
If it works proberly (I think it should beep one and than be quiet), one of the sensors might be damaged.
So just connect one sensor and try it again. If it works, check the other sensors in the same way to find the one which might be damaged.

If every one of the four sensors do work properly when connected alone, they are ok, so the failure must be in the box.
So check out the connectors of the box using one working sensor with each of the four sensor-connectors of the box
(one connector after the other). You might find the damaged connector this way, if there is one.

Hope you can locate the bug.

Let us know what happened while checking...

Thanks for the advice I might try and test the system as advised to resolve the issue. Not looking forward to removing the bumper to replace the parking sensor if they are faulty.

[mike-d]

Originally Posted by Miggins

.............................The pain is running the supply up behind the rear pillar to the connector. .......................

Excellent description and pics - thanks!

Where is the connection terminated, is there an empty connecter provided in harness or do you have to splice into the reverse light cable?

[mattlittle]

Right - have just fitted mine and got them working.

I am not an electrician but have a reasonable level of technical ability and it took me about 5 hours. I will post photos, etc and some things that I fell for - including managing to wire the sensors to the indicators, not useful for reversing, but made a nice loud noise when I locked the car and the indicators flashed

Only problem is working out where on the underside of the bumper do the shorter fixing plugs go - I have filled all the available holes and yet I have the two shorter ones left over!!

[mattlittle]

I have eventually got around to posting some of the photos and findings from fitting the parking sensors to my civic.

First thing - if you use foxit to view PDF documents, don't use it for this. All the images were very blurred. Swap to Acrobat to make reading far easier.

Once you have printed all the instructions, and have laid out blankets (or similar) to protect the bumper when you remove it, you can start!

I have mud flaps fitted to the car made a couple of extra first steps. See the pdf for which bolts I undid to get access to the wheel trim.

Page 2 of the doc shows where the different plugs and screws fit in relation to each other on the car.

Page 3 shows how I tucked the mud flap past the wheel-arch (so it is touching the tyre) to allow access to the bottom of the wheel arch.

Page 4 is the other part of opjepass' photo showing the bumper fittings that onto the fixings shown in his photo.

Page 5 shows the earth point behind the panel in the boot and also the bundle of wires NOT to use (as, like me, you'll end up with a sensor that is hooked to the indicators and not the reverse light). Use the brown wire in the bundle of wires that goes in front of the upper seat belt mount and not the bundle nearest the earth point.

I had problems working out which area people had mounted the control unit to. After fitting as shown in page 5, I realised that people had fitted it to the section of the magic boot flap that goes under the rear seats. That said, I like where I have mounted it, but it does mean that you have to remove the whole panel in the boot.

I have listed on page 6 a couple of points on the Honda instructions that made me scratch my head as to which bit of the car they referred to.

Apart from hooking the sensor to the indicators initially (d'oh), one more thing is remember to re-connect the boot light before putting the interior panel back on. It is obvious to say, but when you are trying to convince the panel to clip back in properly, it is easy to forget until you have it all back in pace and screwed in!

Hope that adds to the overall instructions and makes life just a little bit easier for those attempting it themselves.

[surfdog29]

Fitted the CISBO sensors to my nhb Type S a few days ago. Only took a couple of hours to do the work on the bumper. Accessing the wires behind the panel above rear off side wheel arch proved a bit more problematic and a couple of panel clips were broke in the process.

Anyway system worked perfect after it was all put back together. However later that day when I stuck it in reverse the buzzer beeped constantly despite not being near any object. I put this down to the fact that it was raining which may be affecting the sensitivity. Next day (when dry) buzzers still beeped constantly in reverse so I dismantled the system (removing rear bumper again) and fitted the angle spacers so as to make sure the sensors were not hitting off the ground.. Again they worked fine at first but later in the day the problem reappeared.

Today I extensively tested the sensors swapping them between inputs on the control box, wiring them up individually removing them from the bumper and pointing them at the sky just to make sure there is no ground interference etc. Basically I found that there is little consistency in the operation of the sensors. They may operate as they should for a while and suddenly for no reason they may fail to detect a large object within 24”.

I also found that when they are sensing an object up close (constant buzzer sound) and the object then moves out of range then they often fail to detect this and continue to activate the buzzer. On one occasion I left my car stationary in reverse for a while (engine off) and listened to the buzzing as it changed from intermittent to continuous to off and so on without any objects being near.

I am just after reversing in to a space at my work and when starting the manoeuvre the buzzer sounded constant however as I got near a wall the system started to operate as it should with intermittent buzzes. Who knows how it will behave when I return to it.

I am beginning to wonder if I should have splashed out a bit more on some sensors.
Anyone else experiencing problems with the CISBO kit.

[panasony]

Originally Posted by markvirgo

My Sensors Fitted.

On the Uk car the Brown wire is on the Drivers Side.



Controller Fitted


Where the wires went. White line is where the sensors wire run under the panel. lift it up and push the wires under the bottom.


Buzzer placement

hi there what paint and what laquer did you use to colour the sensors and how hard was it and how much did it cost

cheers

[JoeyF]

Originally Posted by surfdog29

Fitted the CISBO sensors to my nhb Type S a few days ago. Only took a couple of hours to do the work on the bumper. Accessing the wires behind the panel above rear off side wheel arch proved a bit more problematic and a couple of panel clips were broke in the process.

Anyway system worked perfect after it was all put back together. However later that day when I stuck it in reverse the buzzer beeped constantly despite not being near any object. I put this down to the fact that it was raining which may be affecting the sensitivity. Next day (when dry) buzzers still beeped constantly in reverse so I dismantled the system (removing rear bumper again) and fitted the angle spacers so as to make sure the sensors were not hitting off the ground.. Again they worked fine at first but later in the day the problem reappeared.

Today I extensively tested the sensors swapping them between inputs on the control box, wiring them up individually removing them from the bumper and pointing them at the sky just to make sure there is no ground interference etc. Basically I found that there is little consistency in the operation of the sensors. They may operate as they should for a while and suddenly for no reason they may fail to detect a large object within 24”.

I also found that when they are sensing an object up close (constant buzzer sound) and the object then moves out of range then they often fail to detect this and continue to activate the buzzer. On one occasion I left my car stationary in reverse for a while (engine off) and listened to the buzzing as it changed from intermittent to continuous to off and so on without any objects being near.

I am just after reversing in to a space at my work and when starting the manoeuvre the buzzer sounded constant however as I got near a wall the system started to operate as it should with intermittent buzzes. Who knows how it will behave when I return to it.

I am beginning to wonder if I should have splashed out a bit more on some sensors.
Anyone else experiencing problems with the CISBO kit.

Hi Surfdog,

Fitted my sensors over the weekend and exactly what you descibed is happening to mine, cant tell you how p****d of I am, tried all the sensors in each connector etc etc... all seems fine for a while then BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEP randomly ( Even when stood still!), however when the sensors detect something is there it overrides the random beeping and detects the objects.

The only thing left to test is the control box, I'm going to contact the suppliers today to see if they can help.

Did you manage to sort yours out?

Joe

[mattlittle]

Originally Posted by JoeyF

Hi Surfdog,

Fitted my sensors over the weekend and exactly what you descibed is happening to mine, cant tell you how p****d of I am, tried all the sensors in each connector etc etc... all seems fine for a while then BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEP randomly ( Even when stood still!), however when the sensors detect something is there it overrides the random beeping and detects the objects.

The only thing left to test is the control box, I'm going to contact the suppliers today to see if they can help.

Did you manage to sort yours out?

Joe

I'd be interested to hear the results of this, as I seem to be getting a lot of 'false' readings too. Basically, I think that it may be due to the car being on a slope and it picking up a reading from the ground.

I've never had parking sensors before and wondered if this was 'normal'?