Stop the seatbelt beeper - Page 4

GHGH · 18th June 2007, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoolyCiv

I achieve the same (No step 2 & 3), you could too get a 1.8!

I have a 1.8, but still I was not intelligent enough to avoid the Honda string quartet. Even if point 1 in my case is restricted to "climb in".
I'm hard-wired to first start the engine, second fasten the belt and third, drive away.

But since I'm hard-wired to fasten the seatbelt, I went for the simple solution to disconnect the wire.

By the way - the elegant way of connecting the honda string quartet to the hand brake is not totally GH proof. I might be able to release the hand brake before I fasten the belt.

Andrea · 18th June 2007, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

I shall re-write the list to make it clearer:

Climb in and turn the coils on.
Beep beep beep beep beep beep beep.
Reach back to get the belt.
Beep beep beep beep beep beep beep.
Pass the belt over you.
Beep beep beep beep beep beep beep.
Plug it in.
Silence.
Press start.

I perfectly understood the list in the first place thank you pottsy, what im asking is can you not put your seltbelt on before you turn the ignition on or do anything in the car??

Pottsy · 18th June 2007, 15:27

You could do but it becomes a mess, or is inefficient.

Climb in, keys in and coils on, belt on, start. Beeps a lot.
Climb in, belt on with keys in hand (messy), coils on, sit and wait doing nothing, start.
Climb in, keys on lap or dash, belt on, coils on, sit and wait doing nothing, start.

If you have a diesel, it's just the most obvious thing to do to get the coils warmed up while you do something else (put the belt on). It becomes obvious once you've done it the wrong way and sat like a goof for a bit thinking "there's a better way than this".

Also, it comes from a long time habit of getting the engine started first thing, to allow it a few seconds to idle before you drive off. Time to allow oil to get round its bits whilst at minimum load. It's very bad to start and go with no wait at all. So even in a petrol I'd want to start it, then shuffle around with belts and mirrors, and then get going.

Our other car doesn't have an irritating beeper, and I manage fine with that.

WavyD · 18th June 2007, 21:34

Pottsy, the problem is down to genetics. We just don't have anything to do whilst waiting for the heater coils! Woman have their make-up to put on instead.

So it goes like this -

1 Andrea gets in,
2 Andrea puts seatbelt on,
3 Andrea turns key,
4 Andrea Puts makup on and checks Hair,
5 Andrea presses start,
6 One last look in the mirror,

and she's away!

I think I'll take a bowl of hot water to work with me tomorrow and have a shave en-route!

Only joking really, so please don't take offence Andrea.

At the end of the day some people will put up with things and change their habbits. Other people need retraining everytime they do something. Remember its not impossible to teach an old dog new tricks, but it may take more time than they have!

Andrea · 19th June 2007, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

You could do but it becomes a mess, or is inefficient.

Climb in, keys in and coils on, belt on, start. Beeps a lot.
Climb in, belt on with keys in hand (messy), coils on, sit and wait doing nothing, start.
Climb in, keys on lap or dash, belt on, coils on, sit and wait doing nothing, start.

If you have a diesel, it's just the most obvious thing to do to get the coils warmed up while you do something else (put the belt on). It becomes obvious once you've done it the wrong way and sat like a goof for a bit thinking "there's a better way than this".

Also, it comes from a long time habit of getting the engine started first thing, to allow it a few seconds to idle before you drive off. Time to allow oil to get round its bits whilst at minimum load. It's very bad to start and go with no wait at all. So even in a petrol I'd want to start it, then shuffle around with belts and mirrors, and then get going.

Our other car doesn't have an irritating beeper, and I manage fine with that.

Ive never driven a diesel so thanks for explaining how things work pottsy. but if the beeping annoyed me that much i would still put my belt on first.

Andrea · 19th June 2007, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by WavyD

Pottsy, the problem is down to genetics. We just don't have anything to do whilst waiting for the heater coils! Woman have their make-up to put on instead.

So it goes like this -

1 Andrea gets in,
2 Andrea puts seatbelt on,
3 Andrea turns key,
4 Andrea Puts makup on and checks Hair,
5 Andrea presses start,
6 One last look in the mirror,

and she's away!

I think I'll take a bowl of hot water to work with me tomorrow and have a shave en-route!

Only joking really, so please don't take offence Andrea.

At the end of the day some people will put up with things and change their habbits. Other people need retraining everytime they do something. Remember its not impossible to teach an old dog new tricks, but it may take more time than they have!

ahhh the old make up in car joke, good one, very original

. i dont even do make up in the house, i cannot stand the stuff.
If you read my reply to pottsy you will see why i was asking in the first place!

Topcat · 19th June 2007, 20:01

So, how long does it actually take for the coils to warm up then? Are we talking seconds or minutes?

Im with Andrea on this one, climb in, put seat belt on put key in, it might take a while to adjust to this new way of getting in to the car but im sure you will learn, just as I have had to learn to leave the car in gear (and that it is in gear)

Pottsy · 19th June 2007, 20:04

It depends on how cold the engine is, but it normally takes about the same length of time that it takes to put the seatbelt on...

WavyD · 19th June 2007, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrea

ahhh the old make up in car joke, good one, very original

. i dont even do make up in the house, i cannot stand the stuff.
If you read my reply to pottsy you will see why i was asking in the first place!

I did say I was only Joking, but I couldn't let it pass. Sorry!
I hope you are not cross with me!

Old Jokes are always the worst!

It is a pain when you own a Diesel, to have to wait to start your engine.

The benefits do out weigh the cost though.

dondon · 20th June 2007, 13:03

I was surprised to find that there was a wait time. Before I got the car, people told me

a) Modern Common rail engines don't need pre-warming.
b) These days any pre-warming is switched on when you unlock the car - why didn't Honda do this?

WavyD · 20th June 2007, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by dondon

I was surprised to find that there was a wait time. Before I got the car, people told me

a) Modern Common rail engines don't need pre-warming.
b) These days any pre-warming is switched on when you unlock the car - why didn't Honda do this?

a) Modern engines don't require the same level of pre-warming, that was required say 10 years ago. However depending on air temperature etc a little maybe required. Most cars have sensors, that detect air temperature and vary the amount of pre-heat time accordingly. Therefore on a cold winters day you may get 5-10 seconds and on a summers day nothing at all (the little dash light going out indicates when it is ready).

b) I don't know of any car that does this. (I stand ready to be corrected!). Imagine going to your car to get something out and it starting Pre-heat all on its own! After a couple of visits to the car by my kids, the battery would be well and truely flat and the Glow Plugs would soon be warn out.

Like I said, I stand ready to be corrected.

Andrea · 21st June 2007, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topcat

So, how long does it actually take for the coils to warm up then? Are we talking seconds or minutes?

Im with Andrea on this one, climb in, put seat belt on put key in, it might take a while to adjust to this new way of getting in to the car but im sure you will learn, just as I have had to learn to leave the car in gear (and that it is in gear)

Thank you TC, glad someone understands my query. XXX

GHGH · 21st June 2007, 11:47

it's easy to say for you young girls.

Vtec Power · 21st June 2007, 12:03

I just had a chat to a mechanic at Honda, and they told me although you can just easily remove the switch for the seatbelt beeper, it does cause a bigger problem...The airbags will not if the switch is off which is terrible in my opinion...Can anyone confirm if this is true? Does the airbags work if the switch is out but the belt is in

GHGH · 21st June 2007, 12:07

This issue has been adressed in this thread before I think, and the conclusion was "no problem"

Vtec Power · 21st June 2007, 14:33

Ooops, sorry for the repost then!

Pottsy · 21st June 2007, 15:09

The post is here:

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/showpos...2&postcount=20

FWH · 21st June 2007, 15:36

Show the post to the Honda mechanic and ask him to coment on his statement.

Andrea · 22nd June 2007, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by GHGH

it's easy to say for you young girls.

Meaning?

GHGH · 22nd June 2007, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrea

Meaning?

...that young people often are better at changing habits than elderly....

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18th June 2007, 15:27	#63 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,938 Thanks: 26 Thanked 243 Times in 130 Posts iTrader: (0)	You could do but it becomes a mess, or is inefficient. Climb in, keys in and coils on, belt on, start. Beeps a lot. Climb in, belt on with keys in hand (messy), coils on, sit and wait doing nothing, start. Climb in, keys on lap or dash, belt on, coils on, sit and wait doing nothing, start. If you have a diesel, it's just the most obvious thing to do to get the coils warmed up while you do something else (put the belt on). It becomes obvious once you've done it the wrong way and sat like a goof for a bit thinking "there's a better way than this". Also, it comes from a long time habit of getting the engine started first thing, to allow it a few seconds to idle before you drive off. Time to allow oil to get round its bits whilst at minimum load. It's very bad to start and go with no wait at all. So even in a petrol I'd want to start it, then shuffle around with belts and mirrors, and then get going. Our other car doesn't have an irritating beeper, and I manage fine with that.

18th June 2007, 21:34	#64 (permalink)
WavyD Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th May 2007 Location: Between the Light of Day and the Shadows of Darkness! Posts: 375 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Pottsy, the problem is down to genetics. We just don't have anything to do whilst waiting for the heater coils! Woman have their make-up to put on instead. So it goes like this - 1 Andrea gets in, 2 Andrea puts seatbelt on, 3 Andrea turns key, 4 Andrea Puts makup on and checks Hair, 5 Andrea presses start, 6 One last look in the mirror, and she's away! I think I'll take a bowl of hot water to work with me tomorrow and have a shave en-route! Only joking really, so please don't take offence Andrea. At the end of the day some people will put up with things and change their habbits. Other people need retraining everytime they do something. Remember its not impossible to teach an old dog new tricks, but it may take more time than they have!

19th June 2007, 20:01	#67 (permalink)
Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,755 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	So, how long does it actually take for the coils to warm up then? Are we talking seconds or minutes? Im with Andrea on this one, climb in, put seat belt on put key in, it might take a while to adjust to this new way of getting in to the car but im sure you will learn, just as I have had to learn to leave the car in gear (and that it is in gear)

19th June 2007, 20:04	#68 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,938 Thanks: 26 Thanked 243 Times in 130 Posts iTrader: (0)	It depends on how cold the engine is, but it normally takes about the same length of time that it takes to put the seatbelt on...

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dondon Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 18th February 2007 Location: Hampshire Posts: 101 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I was surprised to find that there was a wait time. Before I got the car, people told me a) Modern Common rail engines don't need pre-warming. b) These days any pre-warming is switched on when you unlock the car - why didn't Honda do this?

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GHGH Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 13th March 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,050 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	it's easy to say for you young girls.

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Vtec Power Valve Cap Join Date: 29th May 2007 Location: South Africa Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I just had a chat to a mechanic at Honda, and they told me although you can just easily remove the switch for the seatbelt beeper, it does cause a bigger problem...The airbags will not if the switch is off which is terrible in my opinion...Can anyone confirm if this is true? Does the airbags work if the switch is out but the belt is in

21st June 2007, 12:07	#75 (permalink)
GHGH Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 13th March 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,050 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	This issue has been adressed in this thread before I think, and the conclusion was "no problem"

21st June 2007, 14:33	#76 (permalink)
Vtec Power Valve Cap Join Date: 29th May 2007 Location: South Africa Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ooops, sorry for the repost then!

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Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,938 Thanks: 26 Thanked 243 Times in 130 Posts iTrader: (0)	The post is here: http://www.civinfo.com/forum/showpos...2&postcount=20

21st June 2007, 15:36	#78 (permalink)
FWH Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 6,489 Thanks: 20 Thanked 85 Times in 78 Posts iTrader: (0)	Show the post to the Honda mechanic and ask him to coment on his statement.