A solution to connect DVD-Players and Game consoles to the Navigation Screen - Page 3

Bog · 24th July 2007, 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcr

Can anyone save me from getting a headache and help me understand the following ?.

Prior to selecting a rearview camera, I fed the satnav with a standard
TV PAL-I interlaced composite signal and also an NTSC signal.

The display for the PAL signal was the correct width but the bottom approx' 15% of the input was not displayed, same as jupdio's photos.

The NTSC signal was fully displayed but with a border all around of approx' 6mm.

Also, I couldn't find any way of controlling the brightness for the RV input, the nornal brightness control does not apply.

Interesting that the NTSC works, I assumed it would not work!

I think the only way of controling the brightness would be via the source.

I'm someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the display's resolution is 300 lines (whick is the same a the majority of the cheap cams on ebay)

pcr · 25th July 2007, 12:21

Bog,

Thanks for the reply, here's an update.
Today I used a DVD player as source and was surprised by the results.

Using PAL, again the bottom say 15% of the picture is not displayed.

Using NTSC, the picture was perfect. I think the previous attempt at NTSC which gave a reduced size picture was due to the way the computer output the picture.

I am tempted to conclude that the satnav can handle both PAL and NTSC, but NTSC is the better. It only displays 480 lines (NTSC standard), and not the 576 required by PAL.

I am ordering a Pioneer ND-BC2 camera, which is NTSC.

Bog · 25th July 2007, 18:40

Excellent work pcr,

So any source that is less than 480 lines should work.

gray52 · 27th July 2007, 22:40

got this working on mine today, thanks bog for the how to on not having to use reverse to get the video on the screen.

working on the sound input when get my ipod kit, then it will be the best thing to add to any civic with satnav. its so easy to do as well and cheap to sort out, why didnt honda do this?

will post some pics when ive sorted it all.

Bog · 31st July 2007, 00:08

I've been playing today too! NTSC fits the screen perfectly.

I was also thinking of a way to power an AV source or reversing cam, so that it cam on when the switch is operated.

The attached circuit is how I've done it (sorry about the bad drawing, but it is nearly midnight!)

001.jpg

I have tried it and it works. It will allow me to switch on the reversing cam independently of the reversing lights.

I also plan to incorporate a video switch to allow me to swap sources.

Hope this helps.

ayasystems · 31st July 2007, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcr

Also, I couldn't find any way of controlling the brightness for the RV input, the nornal brightness control does not apply.

If you move the whell control when rear cam is activated you can adjust the brightness level.

sorry for my english, I'm form spain

best regard guys

pcr · 31st July 2007, 01:18

Muchas gracias Ayasystems.

gray52 · 1st August 2007, 21:11

done my video mod today, and it is fantasic & full stereo sound. here are some pics:-

gray52 · 1st August 2007, 21:27

done my video mod today, and it is fantasic & full stereo sound. here are some pics:-

1) back of satnav unit, white plug in the green socket is for the video input, nice & easy.

2) back of glove box with the rca/phono connectors for video,sound & 3.5mm jack for mp3 as well.

3 & 4) inside of the glove box with the connectors. job done

FWH · 1st August 2007, 21:33

Beautiful jobb gray52!

poejay · 1st August 2007, 22:25

Hi,
For the sound are you connecting to a connects 2 box and then to the Aux port?? Also how are you switching between the video source and the SatNav?? Do you have a control box... You have made a pukka job of the works, Are you using NTSC?? This is what the camera throws out to the screen, have checked with Alpine... Thats y PAL isnt to be used!!!

gray52 · 1st August 2007, 22:37

hi, for the sound im using this:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWN:IT&ih=005

for the video i followed the link to the usa forum where some one had connected the video to the satnav box using a plug, which i went for as no soldering to the nav box.

have a good read through the thread like i need and you will get all the info you need now ive done the job and add the pics of where ive put the inputs needed.

no control box is needed, just a switch and 1 diode, i used 2 diodes but you can get away with one.

the hardest part is stripping everything down and putting it back.

im now glad i went for the EX as ive now got what i wanted from day one.

Bog · 1st August 2007, 23:18

Very, very neat job gray52!!

I'll post some pics of my setup soon, although it's very similar to yours!

poejay · 1st August 2007, 23:32

Hi gray...
Do you use the box you have for an IPOD connection and does this pass track info down the Bus connection to the stereo/nav display??
I m keen to develop something that will do this for us!

gray52 · 2nd August 2007, 21:43

hi, follow the link to where i got it from ebay. it can display track info but only for sat radio version hu, but we do not get these in europe.

i think it could be done at some stage, but im happy with what ive now got, the sound quality is amazing.

Stef · 9th August 2007, 19:56

I am planning to make a small cricuit to display the rear cam while driving FW. (using the rear defroster pushbutton).
My only concern is that when the car is moving forward and you "fool" the unit that it is in reverse, the NAVIGATION system is using this info also to detect if the car is moving backwards (to correct the car position).
Anyone had problems with camera ON while using NAVIGATION.?

Bog · 9th August 2007, 20:30

Yes it does get abit confused, but soon sorts itself out! Annoying, but a small price to pay

Stef · 10th August 2007, 06:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bog

Yes it does get abit confused, but soon sorts itself out! Annoying, but a small price to pay

Thanks Bog, I think to make a circuit that turns on the camera for 1min after pressing the mirror/rear defrost button, hope 1 min will not confuse the NAV a lot...

gray52 · 10th August 2007, 10:19

i dont think you will use the camera that much when driving forwards, its very distracting and it will do your head in. (had this on another car)

im more than happy that it switches automaticly when i select reverse. i can now back up close to walls,other cars etc but i still use my mirrors and pdc as before. the camera is a nice touch.

Stef · 10th August 2007, 11:29

BEWARE
Engaging the camera using this mod will completely fool

the GPS system.
If you drive < 50km/h the GPS system will think that you are driving in the oposite direction! I noticed it can take minutes before the GPS/map is correct again.

You can test this easily:
1- Remove the backup bulbs
2- Connect (if you want using a switch) the back up bulb socket brown wire to the +12V (sigaret lighter..) and the camera will turn on during driving.

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25th July 2007, 12:21	#42 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 850 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Bog, Thanks for the reply, here's an update. Today I used a DVD player as source and was surprised by the results. Using PAL, again the bottom say 15% of the picture is not displayed. Using NTSC, the picture was perfect. I think the previous attempt at NTSC which gave a reduced size picture was due to the way the computer output the picture. I am tempted to conclude that the satnav can handle both PAL and NTSC, but NTSC is the better. It only displays 480 lines (NTSC standard), and not the 576 required by PAL. I am ordering a Pioneer ND-BC2 camera, which is NTSC.

25th July 2007, 18:40	#43 (permalink)
Bog Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th October 2006 Location: Romford, Essex Posts: 898 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Excellent work pcr, So any source that is less than 480 lines should work.

27th July 2007, 22:40	#44 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 964 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (3)	got this working on mine today, thanks bog for the how to on not having to use reverse to get the video on the screen. working on the sound input when get my ipod kit, then it will be the best thing to add to any civic with satnav. its so easy to do as well and cheap to sort out, why didnt honda do this? will post some pics when ive sorted it all.

31st July 2007, 00:08	#45 (permalink)
Bog Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th October 2006 Location: Romford, Essex Posts: 898 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've been playing today too! NTSC fits the screen perfectly. I was also thinking of a way to power an AV source or reversing cam, so that it cam on when the switch is operated. The attached circuit is how I've done it (sorry about the bad drawing, but it is nearly midnight!) 001.jpg I have tried it and it works. It will allow me to switch on the reversing cam independently of the reversing lights. I also plan to incorporate a video switch to allow me to swap sources. Hope this helps.

31st July 2007, 01:18	#47 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 850 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Muchas gracias Ayasystems.

1st August 2007, 21:11	#48 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 964 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (3)	done my video mod today, and it is fantasic & full stereo sound. here are some pics:-

1st August 2007, 21:33	#50 (permalink)
FWH Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 6,489 Thanks: 20 Thanked 85 Times in 78 Posts iTrader: (0)	Beautiful jobb gray52!

1st August 2007, 22:25	#51 (permalink)
poejay Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 2nd August 2006 Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi, For the sound are you connecting to a connects 2 box and then to the Aux port?? Also how are you switching between the video source and the SatNav?? Do you have a control box... You have made a pukka job of the works, Are you using NTSC?? This is what the camera throws out to the screen, have checked with Alpine... Thats y PAL isnt to be used!!!

1st August 2007, 22:37	#52 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 964 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (3)	hi, for the sound im using this:- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWN:IT&ih=005 for the video i followed the link to the usa forum where some one had connected the video to the satnav box using a plug, which i went for as no soldering to the nav box. have a good read through the thread like i need and you will get all the info you need now ive done the job and add the pics of where ive put the inputs needed. no control box is needed, just a switch and 1 diode, i used 2 diodes but you can get away with one. the hardest part is stripping everything down and putting it back. im now glad i went for the EX as ive now got what i wanted from day one.

1st August 2007, 23:18	#53 (permalink)
Bog Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th October 2006 Location: Romford, Essex Posts: 898 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Very, very neat job gray52!! I'll post some pics of my setup soon, although it's very similar to yours!

1st August 2007, 23:32	#54 (permalink)
poejay Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 2nd August 2006 Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi gray... Do you use the box you have for an IPOD connection and does this pass track info down the Bus connection to the stereo/nav display?? I m keen to develop something that will do this for us!

2nd August 2007, 21:43	#55 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 964 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (3)	hi, follow the link to where i got it from ebay. it can display track info but only for sat radio version hu, but we do not get these in europe. i think it could be done at some stage, but im happy with what ive now got, the sound quality is amazing.

9th August 2007, 19:56	#56 (permalink)
Stef Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th October 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 407 Thanks: 6 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	I am planning to make a small cricuit to display the rear cam while driving FW. (using the rear defroster pushbutton). My only concern is that when the car is moving forward and you "fool" the unit that it is in reverse, the NAVIGATION system is using this info also to detect if the car is moving backwards (to correct the car position). Anyone had problems with camera ON while using NAVIGATION.?

9th August 2007, 20:30	#57 (permalink)
Bog Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th October 2006 Location: Romford, Essex Posts: 898 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yes it does get abit confused, but soon sorts itself out! Annoying, but a small price to pay

10th August 2007, 10:19	#59 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 964 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (3)	i dont think you will use the camera that much when driving forwards, its very distracting and it will do your head in. (had this on another car) im more than happy that it switches automaticly when i select reverse. i can now back up close to walls,other cars etc but i still use my mirrors and pdc as before. the camera is a nice touch.

10th August 2007, 11:29	#60 (permalink)
Stef Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th October 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 407 Thanks: 6 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	BEWARE Engaging the camera using this mod will completely fool the GPS system. If you drive < 50km/h the GPS system will think that you are driving in the oposite direction! I noticed it can take minutes before the GPS/map is correct again. You can test this easily: 1- Remove the backup bulbs 2- Connect (if you want using a switch) the back up bulb socket brown wire to the +12V (sigaret lighter..) and the camera will turn on during driving.