[HOW TO] Modify the EX HFT for better microphone performance - Page 3

Kremmen · 25th August 2007, 06:35

Yep - that's virtually identical what I have done apart from my foam is thicker and I managed to cut it from one piece.

The results are a very responsive HFT system that you can almost whisper into at any speed and you don't have to be facing the mic either.

Pottsy · 25th August 2007, 06:39

Kremmen, I found that even a quietly spoken four year old in the rear seats could hold a conversation when we were doing 70 mph, so it's working well for me too!

Kremmen · 25th August 2007, 06:44

Agree with that - it picks up everything now.

Some interesting results when you have passengers who wont keep quiet when you press the button to issue a command

I'm still trying to resist leaning left and pointing my mouth towards the mic as it's no longer a requirement.

Foggy69 · 25th August 2007, 22:26

Is the HFT mic used for the voice recognition system as well.

FWH · 25th August 2007, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foggy69

Is the HFT mic used for the voice recognition system as well.

Yes it is the same mic.
I find mine is fine.

Maybe having LHD helps?
I have not modded at all.

delorean_2k · 30th August 2007, 21:09

Hi guys

seems you have sorted the EX HFT perfectly!

Can I ask exactly what tape you used from B&Q to get this working? Would like to apply it too mine to get it working!

So all you did was tape around the mic with this strip, put the casing back on, and then it's much much better?

As-is, its just not usable...

Thanks a lot!

Pottsy · 30th August 2007, 23:07

It's thin brown draught excluder tape from B&Q, sticky on one side only. I just stuck it on to the top of the mic case, making sure I left a nice hole in the middle.

knutsford16 · 5th September 2007, 14:05

My test bed was calling my voicemail and ranting about the colour of the cows etc (Black & White) on a country road for a couple of minutes at speeds 30 to 60mph.

Before 1st call-Didn't change anything from the Honda original factory fit.

Before 2nd call - I cut a square surround of soft foam (the type of stuff they use in those cheap liquid shoe polishers) with a stanley knife and stuck it in as the photo above.

Before 3rd call - I cut a square surround of harder foam (I used tubed central heating pipe lagging, £1 at B&Q) and cut the same square surround.

This final rant was the clearest of the three, Hard foam worked for me

You have to cut it pretty thin (less than 5mm) to ensure that the surround is not proud.

Cheers

Kremmen · 5th September 2007, 16:07

Mine is OK with the soft foam so I'll leave it at that.

Ta for the info

delorean_2k · 5th September 2007, 18:15

I ended up asking the dealer (Aylesbury) to take a look at it , as it was in for something else, and they applied the official "HFT fix", which has done the job because since then I've had no "I can't hear you!" comments.... so all good on that front!

FWH · 28th October 2007, 13:47

Originally I was satisfied with the mic performance - was only using it for voice commands.

Then - I paired up a bluetooth phone and did not receive any sound quality complaints from people I was talking to, BUT the voice recog was terrible. 2-3-4 tries to get it to call numbers in the ´book. Switched to German twice, said "hash" "five" "seven" or whatever more times than I care to remember.

Also, switching to studded winter tyres with more road noise made things worse.

So, I took some P-shaped draught excluder I have lying around.
I found it easier to attach to the plastic grill than the mic with foam on.
A little bulge is now visable on the platic cover if you know where to look.

Will report back after some more use on how well this works.

Jack The Lad. · 28th October 2007, 19:29

Have you changed your interior lights to blue FWH.
Or do they come in blue and not white in Sweden. ??

FWH · 28th October 2007, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Lad.

Have you changed your interior lights to blue FWH.
Or do they come in blue and not white in Sweden. ??

It is the blue LED mod.
LEDs from autobulbs.

Part details here: 10% off at AutobulbsDirect - and list of common items for the Civic

I have also changed the rear interior light and boot light.
Very cool in the dark.

We get the same white bulbs as everyone else here.

Jack The Lad. · 28th October 2007, 19:36

Thanks mate,
I think that I will have some of that. It does look cool.

FWH · 2nd November 2007, 09:26

A week after my mod I am confident it improves.
It is not 100%, but it is much better.

Bear in mind added backround noise from studded tyres at the moment.

DUNCAN · 4th November 2007, 20:24

Come on this is a joke honda should have a proper fix for this..pay a £1000 for a extra .and fix it with soft foam.

merlin18 · 18th November 2007, 17:55

I have had my Civic for 9 months and tried most of the ideas posted. These have improved things but still not fantastic. However last week I tried bluetack as a replacement for the foam. Works very very well

FWH · 18th November 2007, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlin18

I have had my Civic for 9 months and tried most of the ideas posted. These have improved things but still not fantastic. However last week I tried bluetack as a replacement for the foam. Works very very well

Are you leg-pulling?

You covered the mic in bluetack?

Mine is better but still not great, so I am willing to try new ideas, but this is a joke, right?

ukpm · 18th November 2007, 18:40

Surely the mic needs to be moved over to the right hand side for RHD cars?

FWH · 18th November 2007, 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukpm

Surely the mic needs to be moved over to the right hand side for RHD cars?

It has been tried.
But Honda don´t build them like that.

I think it is only possible with non glass roof cars.

5th September 2007, 14:05	#48 (permalink)
knutsford16 Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 2nd September 2007 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	worked a treat for me My test bed was calling my voicemail and ranting about the colour of the cows etc (Black & White) on a country road for a couple of minutes at speeds 30 to 60mph. Before 1st call-Didn't change anything from the Honda original factory fit. Before 2nd call - I cut a square surround of soft foam (the type of stuff they use in those cheap liquid shoe polishers) with a stanley knife and stuck it in as the photo above. Before 3rd call - I cut a square surround of harder foam (I used tubed central heating pipe lagging, £1 at B&Q) and cut the same square surround. This final rant was the clearest of the three, Hard foam worked for me You have to cut it pretty thin (less than 5mm) to ensure that the surround is not proud. Cheers

18th November 2007, 17:55	#57 (permalink)
merlin18 Valve Cap Join Date: 13th February 2007 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Bluetack I have had my Civic for 9 months and tried most of the ideas posted. These have improved things but still not fantastic. However last week I tried bluetack as a replacement for the foam. Works very very well

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25th August 2007, 06:35	#41 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,840 Thanks: 13 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yep - that's virtually identical what I have done apart from my foam is thicker and I managed to cut it from one piece. The results are a very responsive HFT system that you can almost whisper into at any speed and you don't have to be facing the mic either.

25th August 2007, 06:39	#42 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,468 Thanks: 22 Thanked 164 Times in 97 Posts iTrader: (0)	Kremmen, I found that even a quietly spoken four year old in the rear seats could hold a conversation when we were doing 70 mph, so it's working well for me too!

25th August 2007, 06:44	#43 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,840 Thanks: 13 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts iTrader: (0)	Agree with that - it picks up everything now. Some interesting results when you have passengers who wont keep quiet when you press the button to issue a command I'm still trying to resist leaning left and pointing my mouth towards the mic as it's no longer a requirement.

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Foggy69 Vivid Blue Rocks!!! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th December 2006 Location: Westerham Posts: 1,080 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts iTrader: (0)	Is the HFT mic used for the voice recognition system as well.

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delorean_2k Valve Cap Join Date: 27th January 2007 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 38 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi guys seems you have sorted the EX HFT perfectly! Can I ask exactly what tape you used from B&Q to get this working? Would like to apply it too mine to get it working! So all you did was tape around the mic with this strip, put the casing back on, and then it's much much better? As-is, its just not usable... Thanks a lot!

30th August 2007, 23:07	#47 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,468 Thanks: 22 Thanked 164 Times in 97 Posts iTrader: (0)	It's thin brown draught excluder tape from B&Q, sticky on one side only. I just stuck it on to the top of the mic case, making sure I left a nice hole in the middle.

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Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,840 Thanks: 13 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine is OK with the soft foam so I'll leave it at that. Ta for the info

5th September 2007, 18:15	#50 (permalink)
delorean_2k Valve Cap Join Date: 27th January 2007 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 38 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I ended up asking the dealer (Aylesbury) to take a look at it , as it was in for something else, and they applied the official "HFT fix", which has done the job because since then I've had no "I can't hear you!" comments.... so all good on that front!

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Jack The Lad. Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 1,792 Thanks: 3 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts iTrader: (0)	Have you changed your interior lights to blue FWH. Or do they come in blue and not white in Sweden. ??

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Jack The Lad. Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 1,792 Thanks: 3 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks mate, I think that I will have some of that. It does look cool.

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FWH Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,987 Thanks: 14 Thanked 66 Times in 61 Posts iTrader: (0)	A week after my mod I am confident it improves. It is not 100%, but it is much better. Bear in mind added backround noise from studded tyres at the moment.

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DUNCAN Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 7th June 2006 Location: tameside Posts: 345 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Come on this is a joke honda should have a proper fix for this..pay a £1000 for a extra .and fix it with soft foam.

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ukpm Wheelnut Join Date: 17th April 2007 Location: Holywood, Co. Down Posts: 93 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Surely the mic needs to be moved over to the right hand side for RHD cars?