Would you?

czechplastik · 28th March 2007, 20:06

Would you buy a hybrid over a standard Civic?

Pottsy · 28th March 2007, 20:16

It would have to be a good car (so not much of a compromise, if any at all), or seriously beneficial financially.

I have had a few requests for a Hybrid section now (hence the little trial), and the UK ones are from Londoners.

I'd also be interested to hear from buyers/drivers - what's the car actually like to own?

czechplastik · 28th March 2007, 20:31

I don't think the technology is sufficiently advanced to offer true compromise, nor is there a solid enough support network for alternate sources of energy, i.e electric motors, bio-ethanol. I think unless the government imposes stricter legislation outside of london there is no real reason (aside from a guilty conscience) to change at this stage. I do however believe it is the future and renewable energy sources are going to become more and more important.

LNT · 28th March 2007, 21:55

I chose yes because I bought one

. Having said that, I bought it having seen it, liking it, and the cost saving attributes made it a no brainer in the end. I also prefer saloons to hatchbacks, loved the interior, and the build quality seems excellent as it's made in Japan. Looking at the Honda website, it seems to be about the same price as any other ES with the options of pearlescent and leather, not to mention one or two things extra like auto CVT transmission, and I always prefer an auto. It ticks all the boxes for me and the running cost savings are a very welcome bonus.

sarahjo · 28th March 2007, 21:57

Sorry CZ...i know this is one of your very serious lets have another poll things but the question is.." would you"
...the answer is Yes...but i have nooooooo idea what u are talking about

lippy · 28th March 2007, 23:52

Probably - no answer in your poll for that - however the car would have to look good as well - if, say, it looked like our spaceships, then yes I would. And then people wouldn't know whether you were green or not.....
So I've voted NO because the current hybrid is not like our cars.

Bog · 29th March 2007, 08:00

The Hybrid/4 door saloon is a very nice car, If it had the same dash as the euro Civic, I would seriously consider it!

l-noel · 29th March 2007, 08:13

The Hybrid was the first reason why I went to my dealer, I still like the concept, A little bit less the shape of the car and I dont like the CVT gearbox.

So I voted Yes ...

alastair b · 29th March 2007, 19:31

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Originally Posted by sarahjo

Sorry CZ...i know this is one of your very serious lets have another poll things but the question is.." would you"
...the answer is Yes...but i have nooooooo idea what u are talking about

Brilliant

czechplastik · 29th March 2007, 19:35

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Originally Posted by alastair b

Brilliant

Forever lowering the tone!

alastair b · 29th March 2007, 19:47

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Originally Posted by czechplastik

Forever lowering the tone!

Made me smile.

P.o.s.s · 29th March 2007, 21:01

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Originally Posted by lippy

Probably - no answer in your poll for that - however the car would have to look good as well - if, say, it looked like our spaceships, then yes I would. And then people wouldn't know whether you were green or not.....
So I've voted NO because the current hybrid is not like our cars.

I agree, a hybrid the same shape as my baby would be perfect!

St3ph3n · 16th June 2007, 20:38

I doubt they'd be able to cram all the hybrid gubbins in the tiny engine bay of the hatchback though!

civikes · 16th June 2007, 22:02

My answer was YES a month ago

I had the previous 1.6vtec version, 3 door and I did try the new 1.8vtec 5 door, it is a great machine, but I'm not sure why I love the hybrid.
The gearbox is like the top of a very nice cake. The silence, the confort, the space inside and I don't need anymore to glue my hand in the gearbox in a traffic jam.

gray52 · 16th June 2007, 22:07

its now being proved that the purius is not as good as they want to make everyone think it is. it has just been told to pull one of it adds on tv as being misleading as the information contained in it was for the u.s market not the u.k, and the yanks travel approx 3 times the average of us u.k drivers.

im yet to find anyone who can answer, how much is a set of replacment batteries and were do they end up and at what cost to recycle them, as it wont be free to dispose of these.

anyone with the answers then i would be glad to know.

you might get cheap tax, but you aint got 140bhp under your right foot when you need it, and my trip computer is showing 53.5mpg bet the purius will struggle to get this on the runs and driving ive been doing.

WoolyCiv · 17th June 2007, 00:00

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Originally Posted by gray52

its now being proved that the purius is not as good as they want to make everyone think it is. it has just been told to pull one of it adds on tv as being misleading as the information contained in it was for the u.s market not the u.k, and the yanks travel approx 3 times the average of us u.k drivers.

im yet to find anyone who can answer, how much is a set of replacment batteries and were do they end up and at what cost to recycle them, as it wont be free to dispose of these.

anyone with the answers then i would be glad to know.

you might get cheap tax, but you aint got 140bhp under your right foot when you need it, and my trip computer is showing 53.5mpg bet the purius will struggle to get this on the runs and driving ive been doing.

You have just asked the same questons I have always wanted answering but as yet have not received any. When these cars approach their 5-7 year service and the batteries are goosed what will the cost of the service be? I'll bet the money saved on fuel will not equal the increase in service costs.

LNT · 17th June 2007, 00:04

How much is your insurance?

civikes · 17th June 2007, 08:19

Let me say that I could buy the new Civic 1.8, but I did my choice, I also tested an Accord cdti, but I did my choice. The cars in Portugal are have a big addition with taxs and cars less musculed are not so expensive.
Anyway, I still can have 115hp when I need, I had 110hp with my old Civic and it was ok.

You are maybe right about 140hp and I don't now the cost to replace the batteries, but Honda told me that these new battery set is not be replaced, these are not like the previous IMA or Toyota Prius.

About the costs to recycle you are joking, of course. What about the cost with CO2 every single day? What about the cost to "recycle" the nuclear product to create your electric energy? Are you worried with that aswell?

gray52 · 17th June 2007, 14:30

also would you buy an electric car at 7 years old knowing that the batteries may need replacing? these cars will suffer more depreciation on an equlivant model with a diesel engine and this will be good or 250,000 miles with no major problems. the money you save on tax will be minimal due to the cost of batteries and the money lost to depreciation.

WavyD · 17th June 2007, 15:43

Why buy a Hybrid?

There maybe extra benefits if you live or work within the London Road Charging Scheme, but not if you don't.

It doesn't offer that much of a saving in fuel for the extra costs of extendid ownership.

There is no major financial (as in Tax Holidays) benefit as a Private owner or company car user.

The 2.2 Diesel is much faster and much more fun.
The Body shape and Styling is Way Uncool !

The only car worth having as a Hybrid is the Lexus RX400h SUV as you win out on the cost of roadtax over any other 4x4.

http://www.lexus.co.uk/lexus_cars/rx...case/index.asp

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28th March 2007, 20:06	#1 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,815 Thanks given: 5 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader: (0)	Would you? Would you buy a hybrid over a standard Civic?

28th March 2007, 20:16	#2 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Car: Jag XF 3.0 Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 12,337 Thanks given: 127 Thanked 2,267 Times in 775 Posts iTrader: (0)	It would have to be a good car (so not much of a compromise, if any at all), or seriously beneficial financially. I have had a few requests for a Hybrid section now (hence the little trial), and the UK ones are from Londoners. I'd also be interested to hear from buyers/drivers - what's the car actually like to own?

28th March 2007, 20:31	#3 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Thread starter Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,815 Thanks given: 5 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts iTrader: (0)	I don't think the technology is sufficiently advanced to offer true compromise, nor is there a solid enough support network for alternate sources of energy, i.e electric motors, bio-ethanol. I think unless the government imposes stricter legislation outside of london there is no real reason (aside from a guilty conscience) to change at this stage. I do however believe it is the future and renewable energy sources are going to become more and more important.

28th March 2007, 21:55	#4 (permalink)
LNT Join Date: 25th March 2007 Location: England Posts: 307 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	I chose yes because I bought one . Having said that, I bought it having seen it, liking it, and the cost saving attributes made it a no brainer in the end. I also prefer saloons to hatchbacks, loved the interior, and the build quality seems excellent as it's made in Japan. Looking at the Honda website, it seems to be about the same price as any other ES with the options of pearlescent and leather, not to mention one or two things extra like auto CVT transmission, and I always prefer an auto. It ticks all the boxes for me and the running cost savings are a very welcome bonus.

28th March 2007, 21:57	#5 (permalink)
sarahjo Fallen Angel Join Date: 16th October 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,229 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Sorry CZ...i know this is one of your very serious lets have another poll things but the question is.." would you" ...the answer is Yes...but i have nooooooo idea what u are talking about

28th March 2007, 23:52	#6 (permalink)
lippy Bournemouth Belle Car: 2012 CR-V ES-T Deep sapphire Join Date: 10th January 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 859 Thanks given: 21 Thanked 35 Times in 34 Posts iTrader: (0)	Probably - no answer in your poll for that - however the car would have to look good as well - if, say, it looked like our spaceships, then yes I would. And then people wouldn't know whether you were green or not..... So I've voted NO because the current hybrid is not like our cars.

29th March 2007, 08:00	#7 (permalink)
Bog Supporter Car: 2012 Silver 1.8 EX-GT Join Date: 5th October 2006 Location: Radlett, Hertfordshire Posts: 4,366 Thanks given: 119 Thanked 421 Times in 362 Posts iTrader: (26)	The Hybrid/4 door saloon is a very nice car, If it had the same dash as the euro Civic, I would seriously consider it!

29th March 2007, 08:13	#8 (permalink)
l-noel Wine and cooking ! Car: 2008, Grey Mica 1.5 Materia Join Date: 5th December 2006 Location: Roanne-France Posts: 1,526 Thanks given: 9 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts iTrader: (0)	The Hybrid was the first reason why I went to my dealer, I still like the concept, A little bit less the shape of the car and I dont like the CVT gearbox. So I voted Yes ...

16th June 2007, 20:38	#13 (permalink)
St3ph3n Join Date: 8th June 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 119 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I doubt they'd be able to cram all the hybrid gubbins in the tiny engine bay of the hatchback though!

16th June 2007, 22:02	#14 (permalink)
civikes Join Date: 12th June 2007 Posts: 12 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My answer was YES a month ago I had the previous 1.6vtec version, 3 door and I did try the new 1.8vtec 5 door, it is a great machine, but I'm not sure why I love the hybrid. The gearbox is like the top of a very nice cake. The silence, the confort, the space inside and I don't need anymore to glue my hand in the gearbox in a traffic jam.

16th June 2007, 22:07	#15 (permalink)
gray52 Foglight Covers FORSALE Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: East Anglia Posts: 2,273 Thanks given: 52 Thanked 61 Times in 56 Posts iTrader: (39)	its now being proved that the purius is not as good as they want to make everyone think it is. it has just been told to pull one of it adds on tv as being misleading as the information contained in it was for the u.s market not the u.k, and the yanks travel approx 3 times the average of us u.k drivers. im yet to find anyone who can answer, how much is a set of replacment batteries and were do they end up and at what cost to recycle them, as it wont be free to dispose of these. anyone with the answers then i would be glad to know. you might get cheap tax, but you aint got 140bhp under your right foot when you need it, and my trip computer is showing 53.5mpg bet the purius will struggle to get this on the runs and driving ive been doing.

17th June 2007, 00:04	#17 (permalink)
LNT Join Date: 25th March 2007 Location: England Posts: 307 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	How much is your insurance?

17th June 2007, 08:19	#18 (permalink)
civikes Join Date: 12th June 2007 Posts: 12 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Let me say that I could buy the new Civic 1.8, but I did my choice, I also tested an Accord cdti, but I did my choice. The cars in Portugal are have a big addition with taxs and cars less musculed are not so expensive. Anyway, I still can have 115hp when I need, I had 110hp with my old Civic and it was ok. You are maybe right about 140hp and I don't now the cost to replace the batteries, but Honda told me that these new battery set is not be replaced, these are not like the previous IMA or Toyota Prius. About the costs to recycle you are joking, of course. What about the cost with CO2 every single day? What about the cost to "recycle" the nuclear product to create your electric energy? Are you worried with that aswell?

17th June 2007, 14:30	#19 (permalink)
gray52 Foglight Covers FORSALE Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: East Anglia Posts: 2,273 Thanks given: 52 Thanked 61 Times in 56 Posts iTrader: (39)	also would you buy an electric car at 7 years old knowing that the batteries may need replacing? these cars will suffer more depreciation on an equlivant model with a diesel engine and this will be good or 250,000 miles with no major problems. the money you save on tax will be minimal due to the cost of batteries and the money lost to depreciation.

17th June 2007, 15:43	#20 (permalink)
WavyD Join Date: 24th May 2007 Location: Between the Light of Day and the Shadows of Darkness! Posts: 375 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Why buy a Hybrid? There maybe extra benefits if you live or work within the London Road Charging Scheme, but not if you don't. It doesn't offer that much of a saving in fuel for the extra costs of extendid ownership. There is no major financial (as in Tax Holidays) benefit as a Private owner or company car user. The 2.2 Diesel is much faster and much more fun. The Body shape and Styling is Way Uncool ! The only car worth having as a Hybrid is the Lexus RX400h SUV as you win out on the cost of roadtax over any other 4x4. http://www.lexus.co.uk/lexus_cars/rx...case/index.asp