Hybrid lawsuit....

czechplastik · 9th July 2007, 14:49

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God bless the Americans and their insatiable addiction to lawsuits.
In the latest round of 'heck, who can I sue today?', a Californian has issued a lawsuit against Honda over the fuel economy of his Civic Hybrid.
Honda claims a combined US economy of 50mpg for its electric/petrol hybrid, but John True says he has averaged a mere 32mpg in his first 6,000 miles of driving.
His lawsuit is thought to be the first legal challenge of hybrid mileage claims and, unsurprisingly, Honda isn't too happy about it.
A Honda spokesman pointed out that the Civic's mileage figures are produced by the EPA - the US equivalent of the DfT, which regulates and recognises British fuel economy claims - not Honda. The EPA test hasn't been revised in two decades, but it does at least provide a benchmark for comparison.
So it's your standard case of throttle-happy punter unimpressed with standardised testing, then? Perhaps not.
Andrew Frank, the US engineer who pioneered the plug-in hybrid, says that a hybrid's economy is more sensitive to driving style than conventionally powered cars.
Which is bad news if you're a heavy right-footer: even a hybrid ain't gonna save your gas bills.
We'll keep you posted about who emerges victorious in this hybrid war. The lawyers, presumably.

l-noel · 9th July 2007, 16:20

Lawyers are always winner in theses cases !

Thanks for posting that Info CZ

WavyD · 9th July 2007, 21:44

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Originally Posted by czechplastik

Read this on Topgear.com

Civic litigation

God bless the Americans and their insatiable addiction to lawsuits.

Andrew Frank, the US engineer who pioneered the plug-in hybrid, says that a hybrid's economy is more sensitive to driving style than conventionally powered cars.

Moaning Yanks. They want to come over here and pay our fuel prices! Then go home and consider how lucky they are.

St3ph3n · 9th July 2007, 21:47

I hope that ar$ehole loses and has to pay honda's costs.

czechplastik · 9th July 2007, 21:55

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Originally Posted by WavyD

Moaning Yanks. They want to come over here and pay our fuel prices! Then go home and consider how lucky they are.

Exactly! The cars are cheap too, look at the Mustangs you can get for £25k!!

Fuel prices over there are sickening!

WavyD · 9th July 2007, 21:59

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Originally Posted by czechplastik

Exactly! The cars are cheap too, look at the Mustangs you can get for £25k!!

Fuel prices over there are sickening!

Just posted it else where. I think we have a live one lurking on the forum!

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/member.php?u=4485

medicsource · 10th July 2007, 09:15

Haha... another Yank bashing post..... perhaps we should be a little nicer to our Transatlantic cousins

..... Pah!

WavyD · 10th July 2007, 21:35

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Originally Posted by medicsource

Haha... another Yank bashing post..... perhaps we should be a little nicer to our Transatlantic cousins

..... Pah!

Who was Yank Bashing? I was just pointing out the inequalitys that we suffer. But they still moan about fuel economy and saving the environment!

Skaven252 · 16th July 2007, 15:09

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Originally Posted by WavyD

They want to come over here and pay our fuel prices! Then go home and consider how lucky they are.

Has this been posted somewhere before? Sorry, didn't check:

Petrol.jpg

medicsource · 17th July 2007, 09:25

Emigrating? Turkmenistan it is then!

czechplastik · 17th July 2007, 16:59

US fuel is less than half price

WavyD · 17th July 2007, 17:59

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Originally Posted by medicsource

Emigrating? Turkmenistan it is then!

cool when we all going then?

WoolyCiv · 17th July 2007, 20:17

Does every country pay the same per barrel for oil except of course the oil producers and does the variation come purely from the taxes applied?

WavyD · 17th July 2007, 20:24

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Originally Posted by WoolyCiv

Does every country pay the same per barrel for oil except of course the oil producers and does the variation come purely from the taxes applied?

Its an open market, like the stock exchange. the oil companies buy output at the current market value and then sell some on at a later date. Tax is only added to the refined product when it then gets shipped to the final user (via petrol stations or in bulk wagon for domestic use)

Maldax · 22nd July 2007, 08:41

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Originally Posted by medicsource

Emigrating? Turkmenistan it is then!

They couldn't find a Civic to fill up!

9th July 2007, 14:49	#1 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493	Hybrid lawsuit.... Read this on Topgear.com Civic litigation God bless the Americans and their insatiable addiction to lawsuits. In the latest round of 'heck, who can I sue today?', a Californian has issued a lawsuit against Honda over the fuel economy of his Civic Hybrid. Honda claims a combined US economy of 50mpg for its electric/petrol hybrid, but John True says he has averaged a mere 32mpg in his first 6,000 miles of driving. His lawsuit is thought to be the first legal challenge of hybrid mileage claims and, unsurprisingly, Honda isn't too happy about it. A Honda spokesman pointed out that the Civic's mileage figures are produced by the EPA - the US equivalent of the DfT, which regulates and recognises British fuel economy claims - not Honda. The EPA test hasn't been revised in two decades, but it does at least provide a benchmark for comparison. So it's your standard case of throttle-happy punter unimpressed with standardised testing, then? Perhaps not. Andrew Frank, the US engineer who pioneered the plug-in hybrid, says that a hybrid's economy is more sensitive to driving style than conventionally powered cars. Which is bad news if you're a heavy right-footer: even a hybrid ain't gonna save your gas bills. We'll keep you posted about who emerges victorious in this hybrid war. The lawyers, presumably. Last edited by czechplastik : 9th July 2007 at 14:54.

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