Hello everyone

kooldog · 16th April 2008, 18:58

Just a post to say hello to everyone. I am changing my focus later this year(for 58 reg) and i am currently test driving a number of cars:

focus
Golf
peugeot 308
Civic 1.8
and BMW 1 series.

the only car I haven;t driven yet is the Beamer. but so far the Civic impresses me most. I only do 12000 miles a year so It's the petrol option i am looking at.
The only thing that is putting me off a bit at the moment is the tales of woe on here about quality issues and paintwork but I guess people only post the problems and don;t post when they are satisfied. Brilliant forum with lots of useful info.

Dimplyred · 16th April 2008, 19:00

Hi and welcome to civinfo.

We had a BMW 1 series a couple of weeks ago while my wifes Mini was in for service and it was really gutless.

Have you considered the 2.2 Diesel Civic?

kooldog · 16th April 2008, 19:25

Thanks for the welcome. I only do about 12k miles a year so will take a long time to see any saving especially with the widening gap between unleaded and diesel and the extra cost of buying the 2.2.

FWH · 16th April 2008, 20:28

Welcome!

Have a look at the satisfaction survey.
Most of us are satisfied.

http://www.civinfo.com/forum/survey.php

Several of us chose between the Civic and the 1-series.
For same performance and options you need to pay a LOT more for a 1-series, I calculated around 50% more to match a 1,8 EX.

kooldog · 16th April 2008, 23:31

Thanks for the "heads up" on the survey-i feel much happier having seen that-in fact most of the results are quite impressive. Appreciate your help -still finding my way round the site.

I agree the BMW looks expensive-can you believe the basic model comes without alloys or air-con. Anyway we'll have a look at it if only to eliminate it-don't buy a new car every day so want to make the right decision.

robbo51 · 17th April 2008, 07:48

Welcome..Interesting list there.
IMO..Get the Civic OR the BMW but in diesel.
Having driven the 1.8..I couldnt live with the lack of power.
The diesel in fast and frugal..but costs more to buy. Fuel costs more but does much better on consumption.
The BMW is a well made car but its expensive to buy and run, service costs at BMW dealerships are rediculous
Peugeot...Dont know...Its french!!
Golf...Good but theres a new model out soon
Focus..Again good but loses on depreciation, BUT is cheap to run and handles well
Good luck

Kremmen · 17th April 2008, 07:53

Take the spec from your chosen Civic and use the B*W site to build your 1 series up to the same spec level.

Then ensure you are seated before hitting the final price calculation

Additionally have a look at the 3 year residual prices. The 1 series is no longer that attractive when compared to the Civic's residuals.

In my opinion B*W seem to think that in the main all we want in a car is a blue and white badge and a speedo. It wasn't that long ago that a radio wasn't standard in them.

kooldog · 17th April 2008, 18:28

When I drove the 1.8 I thought the power was great with good pickup particularly from 4000rpm and a wide spread of power-but then I am coming from a 1.6 petrol focus with 100bhp so it's a 40% increase in power for me-i suppose it's relative to what you've been used to!

I agree about the cost of the BMW I think it will cost me about £20k when the similarly specced civic will be £15-16-I don;t expect to be impressed with the BMW as the interior and boot space I think is a lot less than the superb Civic.

16th April 2008, 18:58	#1 (permalink)
kooldog Valve Cap Join Date: 16th April 2008 Location: Wokingham,England Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hello everyone Just a post to say hello to everyone. I am changing my focus later this year(for 58 reg) and i am currently test driving a number of cars: focus Golf peugeot 308 Civic 1.8 and BMW 1 series. the only car I haven;t driven yet is the Beamer. but so far the Civic impresses me most. I only do 12000 miles a year so It's the petrol option i am looking at. The only thing that is putting me off a bit at the moment is the tales of woe on here about quality issues and paintwork but I guess people only post the problems and don;t post when they are satisfied. Brilliant forum with lots of useful info.

17th April 2008, 18:28	#8 (permalink)
kooldog Valve Cap Join Date: 16th April 2008 Location: Wokingham,England Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hadn;t considered the diesel. When I drove the 1.8 I thought the power was great with good pickup particularly from 4000rpm and a wide spread of power-but then I am coming from a 1.6 petrol focus with 100bhp so it's a 40% increase in power for me-i suppose it's relative to what you've been used to! I agree about the cost of the BMW I think it will cost me about £20k when the similarly specced civic will be £15-16-I don;t expect to be impressed with the BMW as the interior and boot space I think is a lot less than the superb Civic.

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Dimplyred Type R GT 09570 Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th August 2007 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 3,244 Thanks: 16 Thanked 40 Times in 40 Posts	Hi and welcome to civinfo. We had a BMW 1 series a couple of weeks ago while my wifes Mini was in for service and it was really gutless. Have you considered the 2.2 Diesel Civic?

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kooldog Valve Cap Join Date: 16th April 2008 Location: Wokingham,England Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the welcome. I only do about 12k miles a year so will take a long time to see any saving especially with the widening gap between unleaded and diesel and the extra cost of buying the 2.2.

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FWH Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,786 Thanks: 3 Thanked 22 Times in 19 Posts	Welcome! Have a look at the satisfaction survey. Most of us are satisfied. http://www.civinfo.com/forum/survey.php Several of us chose between the Civic and the 1-series. For same performance and options you need to pay a LOT more for a 1-series, I calculated around 50% more to match a 1,8 EX.

16th April 2008, 23:31	#5 (permalink)
kooldog Valve Cap Join Date: 16th April 2008 Location: Wokingham,England Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the "heads up" on the survey-i feel much happier having seen that-in fact most of the results are quite impressive. Appreciate your help -still finding my way round the site. I agree the BMW looks expensive-can you believe the basic model comes without alloys or air-con. Anyway we'll have a look at it if only to eliminate it-don't buy a new car every day so want to make the right decision.

17th April 2008, 07:48	#6 (permalink)
robbo51 Type S GT Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 2,742 Thanks: 34 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts	Welcome..Interesting list there. IMO..Get the Civic OR the BMW but in diesel. Having driven the 1.8..I couldnt live with the lack of power. The diesel in fast and frugal..but costs more to buy. Fuel costs more but does much better on consumption. The BMW is a well made car but its expensive to buy and run, service costs at BMW dealerships are rediculous Peugeot...Dont know...Its french!! Golf...Good but theres a new model out soon Focus..Again good but loses on depreciation, BUT is cheap to run and handles well Good luck

17th April 2008, 07:53	#7 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,407 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Take the spec from your chosen Civic and use the BW site to build your 1 series up to the same spec level. Then ensure you are seated before hitting the final price calculation Additionally have a look at the 3 year residual prices. The 1 series is no longer that attractive when compared to the Civic's residuals. In my opinion BW seem to think that in the main all we want in a car is a blue and white badge and a speedo. It wasn't that long ago that a radio wasn't standard in them.