Hello From a Honda Car salesman....

[AshSales]

Good day,

I have been working for Honda 4 years now, if anyone needs any information from this side of the fence, please ask....or if anyone needs a fantastic part exchange price...just ask!!

No seriously, i have already learnt a lot of you guys and i pass on as much info to my customers as i can. I have directed many your way!!

Ashley Boaden
Senior Sales Exec
J.T Hughes,
Stafford Park One
Telford
Shropshire TF3 3BD 01952 200999.

[FWH]

Welcome Ash,

What do you drive yourself?

[AshSales]

Hi,

i have been lucky enough to have had a 1.8ES Dec (first Demo, had some looks in that!).

Then a 1.8sport 18"alloys. (best one i've had)

Now in a 2.2ictdi with Pentas in black.

This car is outragously quick (def not 138bhp)!!

You??

Ash.

[FWH]

Still waiting.
No exact delivery date.
Dealer blaming delays in Swindon...

See my signature for type of car...

[robbo51]

Originally Posted by AshSales

Hi,

i have been lucky enough to have had a 1.8ES Dec (first Demo, had some looks in that!).

Then a 1.8sport 18"alloys. (best one i've had)

Now in a 2.2ictdi with Pentas in black.

This car is outragously quick (def not 138bhp)!!

You??

Ash.

On a rolling road it comes out as 150 bhp not 140 as stated

[Charles_Harding]

Welcome aboard Ashsales.

Nice to know that at least one of the stealers out there is trying to be nice.

......try and keep away from TC tho!

"Lady H tries on clothes and if they don't fit she blames wieght gain. I try on clothes and if they don't fit I I reckon she's shrunk them in the wash!"

Charles H.

[Kremmen]

Hi AshSales

Nice to know another dealer is on board

I have a vision of TC v Charles:

[AshSales]

Well i didn't know that about the BHP... i have driven some 1.8's here that feel sluggish and some feel very sprightly...we only use them up to 5ooomiles, after that we've no idea if they loosen up much although the 1.8sport with 18" altimos was absolutly amazing on fuel, i went from shropshire to aberystwyth and was recording 51.9MPG and in my diesel i'm struggling to get 46mpg generally? maybe it's more me than the car!!

Thanks for warm welcome, i am know as the product champion here!! but you folks put me to shame!!

Please incite more useful information....lol

Ash

[Charles_Harding]

Originally Posted by Kremmen

Hi AshSales

I have a vision of TC v Charles:

Lady H. is not too happy with that one!

"Women are like elephants to me. I like the look of them, but wouldn't want to own one!"

Charles H.

[Charles_Harding]

Originally Posted by AshSales

Well i didn't know that about the BHP... i have driven some 1.8's here that feel sluggish and some feel very sprightly...we only use them up to 5ooomiles, after that we've no idea if they loosen up much although the 1.8sport with 18" altimos was absolutly amazing on fuel, i went from shropshire to aberystwyth and was recording 51.9MPG and in my diesel i'm struggling to get 46mpg generally? maybe it's more me than the car!!

Please incite more useful information....lol

Ash

Not just me then?

"You dont know a woman until you meet her in court!"

Charles H.

[AshSales]

Yeah sorry about that - blindness isnt funny you know..
Why the delay on the car?

[shefki]

One question an "Insider" could help us all with...

Are the broadspeed & DTD Prices a realistic benchmark to take to your local dealer...?

I've just been to mine this morning with the Broadspeed price for a 2.2icdti S-Type GT (£16520) and also the price for a 2.2icdti EX (£17360) and he almost fell over. He pointed to a 1.8ivtec Types GT in the showroom at £16265 and said that was their "no haggle" price. Also pointed to a 12 month 8000mile old 1.8EX on 18" alloys in the used section at £17000.

I've made an appointment to meet him again on Monday next and I'll be taking full Broadspeed & DTD quotes with me for him to hand over to the boss.... I hope to strike some understanding and move towards a deal.

[hondaatje]

hello and welcome to the forum

[czechplastik]

Hi Ash, welcome to the forum

[lippy]

Hello Ash, welcome.

I drive a 1.8 sport and love it.

[AshSales]

Hi Shefki,

The Broadspeed quotes are a pain for us dealers...they have found a dealer somewhere who is willing to give absolutley everything away (and i mean everything) including end of agenda and quarter bonus. However, the dealer would be silly to offer no discount because thats just not good business either. Does the prices you have include metallic paint? it is normally on option on DTD and you add it on after...if not then were looking at £1047 disocunt? The question from me would be...how close do we need to get and when do you want it (financial incentive for quick turnaround)?? Keep me informed and if you need my price just ask.

Note though : if a sales person is presented with a sheet saying the DTD price and you say "match it" then he/she wont even try...try the "i'd rather have it from you...but i need somewhere close, he'll try his best for you then....

Hope any of that helps...

Ash

[collierm]

Hi Ash,

Guys Ash is right, didn't quite say 'match it' but got somewhere after saying I'd rather deal with a person face to face and did get close'ish...!

Remember, dealers are people too! Well can only comment on Ash as I've had dealing with him and he has done his best tio sort me out.. thanks mate.

[shefki]

Originally Posted by AshSales

Hi Shefki,

The Broadspeed quotes are a pain for us dealers...they have found a dealer somewhere who is willing to give absolutley everything away (and i mean everything) including end of agenda and quarter bonus. However, the dealer would be silly to offer no discount because thats just not good business either. Does the prices you have include metallic paint? it is normally on option on DTD and you add it on after...if not then were looking at £1047 disocunt? The question from me would be...how close do we need to get and when do you want it (financial incentive for quick turnaround)?? Keep me informed and if you need my price just ask.

Note though : if a sales person is presented with a sheet saying the DTD price and you say "match it" then he/she wont even try...try the "i'd rather have it from you...but i need somewhere close, he'll try his best for you then....

Hope any of that helps...

Ash

Thanks Ash..

The prices I am looking at is for a flat car. I'm looking for Milano red if I go for a TypeS-GT or NHB if I go for an EX so I'd have to allow for pain extra on the EX.

I have just been and test drove a TypeS-GT and found the performance fantastic (3rd gear is electric) BUT there was a cage full of trim canaries squeeking their arse off in the dash once the AC turned things cold and the rear suspension sounded like a bag of marbles under the boot floor. This demo car had just 1800 miles on the clock so I'd hate to think what she'd be like at 35,00 in 2 years time when I've still a year left to pay.

Really upset me because I really really wanted to fall in love with this car and strike a deal.
I'm taking an EX out tomorrow with 28,000 miles on the clock from a neighbouring dealer to see if the TS-Gt was a dud or if it's the norm.

As for the deal.. Before my test drive I told the salesman that I've no desire to talk about list prices as I am a cash buyer (private finance no PX). I gave him the DTD & Broadspeed quotes and told him that these were the ball park figures we'd be talking about... I'd rather do a deal locally but when there is upwards of £1300 to chew over I could easy do the deal with a broker and service the car locally... and let them take the warranty work.

Also a bit of a shock to see a fully spec'd up EX i-vtec (lether, rear camera, sunroof) with 600 miles standing sticker price of £15495k with just 5 months since registration....said to be £20k+ list.

[AshSales]

Hi Mark, nice to see you on the forum.

Still sorting your courtesy i-shift at mo. Should be ready and able by tomorrow....fingers crossed keep an eye on your phone.

ash

[AshSales]

Originally Posted by shefki

Thanks Ash..

The prices I am looking at is for a flat car. I'm looking for Milano red if I go for a TypeS-GT or NHB if I go for an EX so I'd have to allow for pain extra on the EX.

I have just been and test drove a TypeS-GT and found the performance fantastic (3rd gear is electric) BUT there was a cage full of trim canaries squeeking their arse off in the dash once the AC turned things cold and the rear suspension sounded like a bag of marbles under the boot floor. This demo car had just 1800 miles on the clock so I'd hate to think what she'd be like at 35,00 in 2 years time when I've still a year left to pay.

Really upset me because I really really wanted to fall in love with this car and strike a deal.
I'm taking an EX out tomorrow with 28,000 miles on the clock from a neighbouring dealer to see if the TS-Gt was a dud or if it's the norm.

As for the deal.. Before my test drive I told the salesman that I've no desire to talk about list prices as I am a cash buyer (private finance no PX). I gave him the DTD & Broadspeed quotes and told him that these were the ball park figures we'd be talking about... I'd rather do a deal locally but when there is upwards of £1300 to chew over I could easy do the deal with a broker and service the car locally... and let them take the warranty work.

Also a bit of a shock to see a fully spec'd up EX i-vtec (lether, rear camera, sunroof) with 600 miles standing sticker price of £15495k with just 5 months since registration....said to be £20k+ list.

Sounds like the Type s you took out was a dud. It was probably a car they had had in stock for some time and decided to run as a demo. No squeeks in our new demos as yet and they are heading for 6ooomiles a piece.

1.8ivtec ex sounds very cheap? was it cancelled order or customer hand back? or the dealer just wants shot of it....we loose money on some cars you know..

keep me toasted.....ash