Speakers Upgrading to Infinity's

iamholam · 19th May 2008, 11:50

Hi there, posted this on the How To forum but wonder if I could get some answers on this section.

Thanks!

Ok looking to upgrade my speakers and have a couple of questions:

Speakers
I see that the Infinity REF 6510cs speakers have been around for some time now and wonder if there are better ones out there that will do a better job, also they seem to be harder to get and cost more than some of the bargains that were being had around last year from ebay.

The Infinity REF6520CS and REF6520SCS can be bought for the same price, the SCS versions are actually shallower than the standard 6510cs's so should have no fitting problems. The only thing with these newer speakers are that they have an impedence of 2.7 ohms compared to 4 ohms of the 6510cs. However Viper8 has had these fitted with no problems and I wonder if they are suitable (and better) for the job.

Speaker Rings
P64, do you have a link to where you can get the Alpine speaker rings? I would prefer to drill as few holes as possible. Also I wonder if you are drilling straight into the metal will this mean that this area is more prone to rusting (particularly since it would be in contact with some water from the windows.

illegalhunter · 19th May 2008, 12:37

The infinitys are really trebley

p64 · 19th May 2008, 16:39

I got the ring from my local car audio dealer, I assume they are a leftover from the alpine sps-171 speakers, which they sold to a customer that had a car other than Civic 7gen. about the drilling, you only expose a small area inside the hole, you can paint it, I don't think there will be any rust. After all, it is a 4mm hole.

iamholam · 19th May 2008, 16:54

Cool thanks there. I suppose I am just worried about doing irrepairable damage to my new car!

This will be on my list of things to do at one point as I do fine the normal speakers very "trebly" and not very good.

bikersupermoto · 21st May 2008, 16:46

hi ian, what speakers hav u gone for in the end?....i was supposed to take my car in today to motorsound in battlefield rd to have pioneer ts e170ci speakers and crossovers installed but when i got there they said the pioneer speakers hadnt been delivered and *** b 4 more weeks!!!....

wasnt very happy ... so im shopping around elsewhere now for something..... find the standard sytem & speakers are a heap of ****....nothing hi fidelity about them at all.

am lookin at gettin the pioneer avic f500bt installed when it arrives too...that way can ipod control and navigator bluetooth and rear view camera ...and its not expensive either but looks awesome.

iamholam · 21st May 2008, 17:18

Haven't had anything installed yet!

It's on my list of things to do so really just doing research right now!

Let me know how you get on with your system!

I'm really only looking at upgrading the speakers so don't want to get into fitting an amp or anything like that so I assume my options are limited.

bikersupermoto · 21st May 2008, 17:38

wot speakers u thinkin of goin for?

iamholam · 21st May 2008, 20:29

To be honest I don't have a clue so may rather unimaginatively go for...

Infinity 6510cs

illegalhunter · 21st May 2008, 20:32

I put alpines in the rear today , more base .

iamholam · 22nd May 2008, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by illegalhunter

I put alpines in the rear today , more base .

What speakers have you gone for in the front? Are they the infinitys, have you installed an amp too?

Foz · 22nd May 2008, 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by illegalhunter

I put alpines in the rear today , more base .

Model?

ante00 · 22nd May 2008, 11:17

I bought ring in local store to for astra/vectra model.....and I have installed Hertz speakers in front and rear without amp for now....and I isolated panels and around speakers.....much much better then factory ones....see my sign

ab2you · 22nd May 2008, 13:34

I read that a lot of people installed the Infinity's, Why?
Because a lot of them are complaining about the highs too loud.
Are the Infinity's the only ones that will fit?
Are there any people who have a Polk or an Boston set installed in the front doors?

GHGH · 22nd May 2008, 19:13

I installed Polk db-6501 in my front doors because I liked them better than the Infinitys.
Slightly warmer sound (more musical in my ears), and - yes - a slightly softer high end. Polks cost a tiny bit more than the Infinitys.

damianscott71 · 22nd May 2008, 22:44

The infinity's aren't trebly if you fit them properly. If you soundproof the doors at the same time as you fit the speakers, and seal the edge of the door trim with speaker foam, the infinity's are great. If you're going to do the rears to, make sure you use speakers from the same family, so that you get equal tonality from all corners.

iamholam · 23rd May 2008, 09:48

Maybe looking at JBL: P6550c http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro...s_id/1332.html

Anyone had these installed?

GHGH · 23rd May 2008, 09:53

My impression was that the HU amp was just as bad as the speakers. I replaced the amp before the speakers so I never got to hear the difference.

ab2you · 23rd May 2008, 10:23

Went to my local dealer, and listened to Infinity, Focal 165KF and Hertz hsk165.
You can really hear a huge difference, Infinity to much highs, a bit harsch, the Hertz a bit sissling but very good, the Focals sounded awesome.
I know they are almost triple the price...

Does anyone has a set of Focals installed?

Bupps · 24th May 2008, 12:59

I work for a car audio specialist. IMO speakers that are made in europe sound better than speakers made in the far east.
Therefore manufactures like Focal and DynAudio to name a few would sound alot better. Also as a general rule of thumb - these tend to be more expensive.
You need to decide what type of sound you are expecting and at what price range you are willing to go up to.

19th May 2008, 11:50	#1 (permalink)
iamholam Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 9th April 2008 Location: Livingston Posts: 202 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Upgrading to Infinity's Hi there, posted this on the How To forum but wonder if I could get some answers on this section. Thanks! Ok looking to upgrade my speakers and have a couple of questions: Speakers I see that the Infinity REF 6510cs speakers have been around for some time now and wonder if there are better ones out there that will do a better job, also they seem to be harder to get and cost more than some of the bargains that were being had around last year from ebay. The Infinity REF6520CS and REF6520SCS can be bought for the same price, the SCS versions are actually shallower than the standard 6510cs's so should have no fitting problems. The only thing with these newer speakers are that they have an impedence of 2.7 ohms compared to 4 ohms of the 6510cs. However Viper8 has had these fitted with no problems and I wonder if they are suitable (and better) for the job. Speaker Rings P64, do you have a link to where you can get the Alpine speaker rings? I would prefer to drill as few holes as possible. Also I wonder if you are drilling straight into the metal will this mean that this area is more prone to rusting (particularly since it would be in contact with some water from the windows.

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