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Old 24th July 2009, 10:18   #1 (permalink)
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Under-seat sub

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I'm looking to get a small sub to install under the rear seats, or maybe somewhere under the dash. Anyway, it's got to be some compact unit, I just want some extra low-end because the stock speakers (that I'm not gonna change) don't deliver well in the low-end.
There are some possibilities here. I like the Blaupunkt THB 200, but I came across something that puzzles me: a compact Focal sub, and an Auna sub that looks exactly the same. The Focal is 289 euro, the Auna 89 euro.
Take a look at the pictures: the only difference is that the Focal has a mini jack for a remote volume. Rest LOOKS the same. Apparently the Auna brand is particulary popular in the UK. Has anyone used or tested this thing? Focal has a very good reputation, so the Auna is maybe just as good? Chances are they come from the same Chinese factory anyway.
If the Auna turns out to be crap, I'd go for the Blaupunkt I guess. It gets good reviews ans the price is ok (129 euro). Unfortunately I don't find any revieuw on this Auna stuff.

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You're obviously not going for a high-end solution, since you're going with a compact sub instead of a regular one, so I think you be satisfied with the little extra punch no matter which one you choose.
With that being said, the well known brands with good reputation might give you a better sound than the cheap-o ones.

I don't know this for sure since I have never used any compact subs, but will agree with you and go somewhere in the mid-price range.

If you would consider having a sub in the trunk with the ability to take it out whenever needed, there is a good thread on this forum on how to install a sub in the civic.

Good luck to whatever you choose!
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Old 24th July 2009, 12:09   #3 (permalink)
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let us know what you choose and where you put it
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Old 24th July 2009, 12:38   #4 (permalink)
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You're obviously not going for a high-end solution, since you're going with a compact sub instead of a regular one, so I think you be satisfied with the little extra punch no matter which one you choose...
If by "high-end" you mean big boxes in the trunk with huge amps and window-breaking basses, neon-lights, flashy wiring, speakers with chrome grills all over: no I don't. For me a sound system has to be good, but discreet. So I'd like to have a "higher-end" sound all together. First I'll see what an added sub will (not) do for me, and then I might consider changing the stock speakers anyway, despite my previous post. I want the system to sound better, not neccessarily louder. The stock speakers are not that bad, just not well balanced. And they are obviously not designed for good bass response.
Best solution would be to go to a decent car-hifi shop and just test one of these compact subwoofers, but there are few car-hifi shops around here that let you test their stuff, and they are just a bit to "chavy" for me. So far I only found one compact sub, from BOSS, and it was IMHO overpriced and underperforming.

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let us know what you choose and where you put it
I think indeed that this is going to be the biggest challenge!

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i was recommended the alpine swe-1000 by a car audio specialist
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Last time I checked you have about 2 inches under the seat.

Probably won't fit or not in a way that would satisfy you.

For the same money you could try one on my sub boot builds, hardly take up any space.

Just went a kinds of space saving loopy

My next project is to make a fibreglass parcelshelf with 2 x 10" subs in, but I need to find a spare shelf to butcher first.
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If by "high-end" you mean big boxes in the trunk with huge amps and window-breaking basses, neon-lights, flashy wiring, speakers with chrome grills all over: no I don't. For me a sound system has to be good, but discreet. So I'd like to have a "higher-end" sound all together. First I'll see what an added sub will (not) do for me, and then I might consider changing the stock speakers anyway, despite my previous post. I want the system to sound better, not neccessarily louder. The stock speakers are not that bad, just not well balanced. And they are obviously not designed for good bass response.
Best solution would be to go to a decent car-hifi shop and just test one of these compact subwoofers, but there are few car-hifi shops around here that let you test their stuff, and they are just a bit to "chavy" for me. So far I only found one compact sub, from BOSS, and it was IMHO overpriced and underperforming.

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Well, yeah, no, I think you misunderstood me. I didn't say you'd have to get a system which takes up all the space in your trunk with neon lights and all that stuff. I just meant that it might be worth getting a real sub instead of the mini-ones you posted.

And as I read now, if you are going to change the stock speakers anyways, do it properly.

In my car, I had all the speakers replaced with JL speakers, had them all rewired to an amp and all the doors damped. The amp is hidden where the spare tyre would usually go, and the sub I can easily take out whenever I want. It all looks completely stock, exept for the sub of course, which is visible, but nowhere flashy. The sound improvement is amazing, I recommend doing this if you really love music.
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I eventually went for a small Pioneer TS-WX11A under the rear seats. I went for this one because:

- it fits under the rear seats !
- it is very well made
- it has a remote so you can adjust the settings from the drivers seat
- you can get it for a good price easily - ie ebay (cost me @ 120)
- Stef did a how to which overcame the wiring difficulties

The sound quality is good in my opinion, and I am very happy with the overall system with other upgrades. However I have not heard the competitors subs , but guess they will be similar.

Some links:

TS-WX11A Pioneer Subwoofers - Car*Entertainment

Pioneer TS WX11A COMPACT CAR ACTIVE AMPLIFIED SUBWOOFER on eBay (end time 04-Aug-09 00:29:00 BST)

How to install a Pioneer sub woofer

Small Sub Woofer Under Rear Seats. Questions ?

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What did you go for in the end then mate?
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What did you go for in the end then mate?
Well... neither. I had some stuff left from a previous sub install, and I decided to rebuild my old subwoofer project. A few days ago it looked like on the picture.
In the meantime I finished the sub itself. I designed it to optimum performance using its Thiele-Small parameters. The rather small 8 inch sub delivers down to 33 Hz (-3db, see graph).
The box itself fits perfectly behind the rear seat. It is just as wide as the bigger part of the rear seat, and it does not sit on top of the secret compartment, so that is still accessable.
All that's left is putting it in the car and wiring up. I have an old Philips DAP-350 amp (already resprayed on the picture) with built in LPF. Don't have any documentation on it, but it delivers far more power than necessary.
I hope to get the input signal from pre-outs that I will have to make myself. It's decribed somewhere on the forum.
To be continued...

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