AUX in IPOD integration - Potential solution - Page 4

generationgav · 8th February 2007, 14:29

Oh dear god!

I'm still dubious about the loom, I honestly think that it either might convert more than expected or alternatively it's just different connection.

Basically I'm not convinced that the EX and Non-EX HU's are the same at all, and the connects2 cable which has been tested as working on Pottsy' unit will work on non-ex units at all.
I will get around to getting the cable soon, and update everyone once I do. As mentioned I will only be getting the connects2 cable and will get the H/K unit at a later date as it's too expensive for me at the moment and that's the part I'm sure will work.

As far as control it's going to be somewhere in between the Dension and the Honda unit I'd imagine; basically skip song, skip album and playlists; the H/K will give most control (although no control via the steering wheel)

czechplastik · 8th February 2007, 17:29

I'd love to make use of the screen and display track names, albums etc but realistically i think this is unlikely to happen. I can't see any manufacturer going to the trouble of generating such a system just for the civic EX. If i had a system that would enable me to play albums/playlists using the ipod then i'd be happy enough with steering controls skipping tracks and volume control. Thats the minimum.

rishiap09 · 8th February 2007, 17:39

Use an equaliser! Best and easiest option for me, gives an aux out. Easy to fit and quite cheap to buy equalisers.

generationgav · 8th February 2007, 17:40

The H/K unit won't give you any steering wheel control (well volume; but no skipping at all!) but you get the jog dial which you can use to control everything.
The Dension (now apparently unusable in their new form) will give you most control, which is playlists, track & album skipping I do believe; but that's it.

I don't think we'll ever see the display being used without somebody making a whole h/u; including satnav & the lot....ie pretty much impossible.

The only other possibility is to get a PC, MP3 unit like some people have installed, then using the rear camera in for display; but this is a project which you'd be mad to undertake I think!

generationgav · 8th February 2007, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by rishiap09

Use an equaliser! Best and easiest option for me, gives an aux out. Easy to fit and quite cheap to buy equalisers.

Realistically what does it cost?
How easy is it to fit? what about the line out adaptors?
Can we plug it in to our speakers without blowing them?
Is it not an Aux-In it supplies to plug in to the ipod?

czechplastik · 8th February 2007, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by generationgav

The Dension (now apparently unusable in their new form) will give you most control, which is playlists, track & album skipping I do believe; but that's it.

Interested if anyone can find out for sure that the dension works. Looks to be the best bet for everyone at this stage of the game. The EQ is an option, maybe you could give us some info on the installation and operation etc.

rishiap09 · 8th February 2007, 18:04

My Civic!!! Take a look

Have a look at this thread!.

Line out converters are roughly £8.

Equalisers, i saw one yesterday on ebay for £35

RCA cables are cheap, can get 1 to 2m for a couple of quid. You dont need many.

Equalisers do not have to visible, they can be put in the glove compartment. Once they are set, they dont have to move. But eq does make a difference in sound quality.

Only trouble u may have is wiring and gettin into the dash. Thats a tricky job.

Ye, sorry it has an AUX IN! With the aux in, i added a ipod kit, which just allows it to charge and play music. You can use the standard 2 rca to single stereo jack.

generationgav · 8th February 2007, 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by rishiap09

My Civic!!! Take a look

Have a look at this thread!.

Line out converters are roughly £8.

Equalisers, i saw one yesterday on ebay for £35

RCA cables are cheap, can get 1 to 2m for a couple of quid. You dont need many.

Equalisers do not have to visible, they can be put in the glove compartment. Once they are set, they dont have to move. But eq does make a difference in sound quality.

Only trouble u may have is wiring and gettin into the dash. Thats a tricky job.

Ye, sorry it has an AUX IN! With the aux in, i added a ipod kit, which just allows it to charge and play music. You can use the standard 2 rca to single stereo jack.

For EX owners I'd say that this method is the best so far; and could even be used with a H/K unit, to be honest I'm not sure I'd want to go for this method for a potential saving of about £10.
Of course, for EX owners this saving is more like £100!

czechplastik · 8th February 2007, 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by generationgav

Of course, for EX owners this saving is more like £100!

You love having a pop at us EX-er's!

gray52 · 8th February 2007, 21:06

do they make a line out converter that will plug into the make of an EX head unit? personaly i think someone out there can even get video on to the screen via a video ipod or other av source.

if i could do both, music & video i would gladly pay £150-200 or this set up, it just needs a company to make something, and i dont think it would be that hard these days.

Typerkid · 8th February 2007, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

Interested if anyone can find out for sure that the dension works. Looks to be the best bet for everyone at this stage of the game. The EQ is an option, maybe you could give us some info on the installation and operation etc.

the way things are looking i guess my type r will be treated to the dension ipod cradle sometime next month and the EQ seems like a good addition to the set up.

czechplastik · 8th February 2007, 22:14

The EQ idea is good but not my fave. If all else fails it's an option. I see what you mean gray but who can we pursuade to look at it? I still can't see a company manufacturing something just for EX's

gray52 · 8th February 2007, 22:28

all you need is a line out converter, then something to plug in to the screen, and judging by them photos of the ex hu, its already there.

you would then have the dock connector in the ipod from a box of tricks for either music, or films, as you get this option on the ipod so would then output video straight to the nav screen, simple

czechplastik · 8th February 2007, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by gray52

all you need is a line out converter, then something to plug in to the screen, and judging by them photos of the ex hu, its already there.

you would then have the dock connector in the ipod from a box of tricks for either music, or films, as you get this option on the ipod so would then output video straight to the nav screen, simple

But that's not necessarily going to give steering controls etc. In the alpine kit i had before in my previous car it needed an adaptor to interface between the HU and the IPOD. If you're trying to get full controls you're going to need to make the car and IPOD speak to each other.

czechplastik · 8th February 2007, 23:56

Here's what i used to have. Full control over everything through HU. Unfortunately not compatable with our stereo's for obvious reasons! But this shows the adaptor that allowed the car and IPOD to talk.

Mark996 · 9th February 2007, 08:50

Yep, thats exactly what I used to have too in my old car......worked absolutely perfectly.

My Alpine HU even had a little 'Scroll Line' at the bottom of the LCD to scroll through the songs/artists/whatever even quicker.....

I know they are not too nice looking, but those 2 DIN blanking units you can get for our cars may be a good idea after all - that way you could stick any HU in you wanted.....

I believe another forum member has already posted pics of this idea somewhere on here.....

generationgav · 9th February 2007, 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

You love having a pop at us EX-er's!

I'm purely just jealous!

czechplastik · 9th February 2007, 16:53

The blanking units are no good for the EX sadly, bloody EX's, have to make things so difficult. The Alpine system was ugly but worked a treat, kept IPOD tucked out of the way in the glovebox. I'm starting to get frustrated now! I'm off to buy an Auris!

generationgav · 9th February 2007, 17:07

And somebody fitted a blanking unit to find that the display, including A/C controls are done by the HU, so you can't even get time or see your A/C settings.

Bog · 9th February 2007, 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

I'm off to buy an Auris!

Get a grip of yourself man! It's not THAT bad.... Get yourself a stiff drink and think about what your saying!

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This thread is about: IPOD integration - Potential solution, it's in Ipods, MP3 Players and ICE at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Oh dear god! I'm still dubious about the loom, I honestly think that it either might convert more than expected or alternatively it's just different ...

8th February 2007, 14:29	#61 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 803 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Oh dear god! I'm still dubious about the loom, I honestly think that it either might convert more than expected or alternatively it's just different connection. Basically I'm not convinced that the EX and Non-EX HU's are the same at all, and the connects2 cable which has been tested as working on Pottsy' unit will work on non-ex units at all. I will get around to getting the cable soon, and update everyone once I do. As mentioned I will only be getting the connects2 cable and will get the H/K unit at a later date as it's too expensive for me at the moment and that's the part I'm sure will work. As far as control it's going to be somewhere in between the Dension and the Honda unit I'd imagine; basically skip song, skip album and playlists; the H/K will give most control (although no control via the steering wheel)

8th February 2007, 17:29	#62 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'd love to make use of the screen and display track names, albums etc but realistically i think this is unlikely to happen. I can't see any manufacturer going to the trouble of generating such a system just for the civic EX. If i had a system that would enable me to play albums/playlists using the ipod then i'd be happy enough with steering controls skipping tracks and volume control. Thats the minimum.

8th February 2007, 17:39	#63 (permalink)
rishiap09 Valve Cap Join Date: 13th August 2006 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Use an equaliser! Best and easiest option for me, gives an aux out. Easy to fit and quite cheap to buy equalisers.

8th February 2007, 17:40	#64 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 803 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The H/K unit won't give you any steering wheel control (well volume; but no skipping at all!) but you get the jog dial which you can use to control everything. The Dension (now apparently unusable in their new form) will give you most control, which is playlists, track & album skipping I do believe; but that's it. I don't think we'll ever see the display being used without somebody making a whole h/u; including satnav & the lot....ie pretty much impossible. The only other possibility is to get a PC, MP3 unit like some people have installed, then using the rear camera in for display; but this is a project which you'd be mad to undertake I think!

8th February 2007, 18:04	#67 (permalink)
rishiap09 Valve Cap Join Date: 13th August 2006 Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My Civic!!! Take a look Have a look at this thread!. Line out converters are roughly £8. Equalisers, i saw one yesterday on ebay for £35 RCA cables are cheap, can get 1 to 2m for a couple of quid. You dont need many. Equalisers do not have to visible, they can be put in the glove compartment. Once they are set, they dont have to move. But eq does make a difference in sound quality. Only trouble u may have is wiring and gettin into the dash. Thats a tricky job. Ye, sorry it has an AUX IN! With the aux in, i added a ipod kit, which just allows it to charge and play music. You can use the standard 2 rca to single stereo jack.

8th February 2007, 21:06	#70 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 878 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	do they make a line out converter that will plug into the make of an EX head unit? personaly i think someone out there can even get video on to the screen via a video ipod or other av source. if i could do both, music & video i would gladly pay £150-200 or this set up, it just needs a company to make something, and i dont think it would be that hard these days.

8th February 2007, 22:14	#72 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The EQ idea is good but not my fave. If all else fails it's an option. I see what you mean gray but who can we pursuade to look at it? I still can't see a company manufacturing something just for EX's

8th February 2007, 22:28	#73 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 878 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	all you need is a line out converter, then something to plug in to the screen, and judging by them photos of the ex hu, its already there. you would then have the dock connector in the ipod from a box of tricks for either music, or films, as you get this option on the ipod so would then output video straight to the nav screen, simple

8th February 2007, 23:56	#75 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here's what i used to have. Full control over everything through HU. Unfortunately not compatable with our stereo's for obvious reasons! But this shows the adaptor that allowed the car and IPOD to talk.

9th February 2007, 08:50	#76 (permalink)
Mark996 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 11th April 2006 Location: Nottingham, Notts. Posts: 447 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Yep, thats exactly what I used to have too in my old car......worked absolutely perfectly. My Alpine HU even had a little 'Scroll Line' at the bottom of the LCD to scroll through the songs/artists/whatever even quicker..... I know they are not too nice looking, but those 2 DIN blanking units you can get for our cars may be a good idea after all - that way you could stick any HU in you wanted..... I believe another forum member has already posted pics of this idea somewhere on here.....

9th February 2007, 16:53	#78 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The blanking units are no good for the EX sadly, bloody EX's, have to make things so difficult. The Alpine system was ugly but worked a treat, kept IPOD tucked out of the way in the glovebox. I'm starting to get frustrated now! I'm off to buy an Auris!

9th February 2007, 17:07	#79 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 803 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	And somebody fitted a blanking unit to find that the display, including A/C controls are done by the HU, so you can't even get time or see your A/C settings.