Radio Bass enhancement without subwoofer : Mission Impossible ?

type901 · 18th July 2007, 13:04

Hi all,

As I am French, I would apologise if my English is not perfect as Shakespeare. Be indulgent, please.

As many of you, I find the audio of my Civic is poor, really poor. My previous car was a Chrysler PT Cruiser with standard audio and it was 100 % better with nice and LOUD bass !

I read many threads about speakers replacement, and I understand that new speakers (Infinity, Alpine, etc ...) give a clearer sound with more details and definition but do not really improve bass level.

So, before entering in the work of audio improvement, my question is :

"Is it possible to notably improve bass level WITHOUT installing an amplified subwoofer" ?

Many thanks

Charley Farley · 18th July 2007, 13:09

Hi type 901

I am of the same opinion as yourself 901, and think that there is no bass response. So I have decided to put some new speakers in the back. They are Kenwood KFC-PS170. It looks as though they will fit. If the bass is still not improved after this installation I am thinking about fitting a graphic equaliser booster, maybe just 30w x 30w to fill out the sound a bit.

type901 · 18th July 2007, 13:48

Charles,

Sincerely, I do not think that KFC-PS170 could improve bass level in the car alone. An other problem you can meet with these speakers is that the tweeter size exceed the speaker pan from around 2 cm in the center and it could make a problem when you will fit the door panel in place : the center of the grill will touch the tweeter. See picture below.

In my mind, I am thinking to install a slim amplified subwoofer like Alpine SWD1600 or Pioneer TSWX11A. Or similar ....

generationgav · 18th July 2007, 15:01

Off Topic: how do you find the difference in driving of the PT Cruiser and the Civic? I have a PT Cruiser for 2 weeks in August!

type901 · 18th July 2007, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by generationgav

Off Topic: how do you find the difference in driving of the PT Cruiser and the Civic? I have a PT Cruiser for 2 weeks in August!

=> PM

Charley Farley · 18th July 2007, 15:56

Hi type 901

Thanks for that info. I'll have a chat with the In-Car people at halfords and check the fitting. I thought these speakers sounded great without serious amplification.

Mad4amanda · 18th July 2007, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by type901

In my mind, I am thinking to install a slim amplified subwoofer like Alpine SWD1600 .

We have one of these in the passenger front footwell of our Type S GT CDTi, A fantastic piece of kit and reduced at halfords now!

type901 · 18th July 2007, 20:07

Can you post any picture of the place you located the Alpine subwoofer in your Type S ??? Many thanx !

neilfs · 18th July 2007, 20:37

Isn't there any room under the dash for a small amp? Not taken the dash off mine, but my last car, a Peugeot 307 had tonns of room - just thought most modern cars would be simular with their very large dashes.

Mad4amanda · 18th July 2007, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by type901

Can you post any picture of the place you located the Alpine subwoofer in your Type S ??? Many thanx !

Wont be till next week Im afraid as car is in france at the moment !
No room under the Dash in the Type S apparently the wiring was very different to the 5 door they fitted it to previously too! Maybe the satnav meant it was different and the sub would not fit under the passenger seat where we thought it would but it doesnt take up too much room and looks cool.

type901 · 28th July 2007, 22:34

Any news about the Alpine sub installed below glove box ?

cho · 28th July 2007, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad4amanda

We have one of these in the passenger front footwell of our Type S GT CDTi, A fantastic piece of kit and reduced at halfords now!

How much are halfords doing this for at the mo

Cheers

absolutehype · 10th August 2007, 14:14

Hey guys, best bet is to look on either

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/home.html

or

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/home.html

both these sites have stores in tottenham court road, london. They are really really cheap because they buy in immense bulk. In most cases you will save double on what you would pay at halfords and at least these guys can give u advice and know what their talking about. Personally i would go for a set of infinity components in the front. You can get a set of references for like £70, kappa are generally a fair bit more and to be honest you dont notice the difference unless your going competition.

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Charley Farley Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 25th September 2006 Location: Greenford West London Posts: 478 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi type 901 I am of the same opinion as yourself 901, and think that there is no bass response. So I have decided to put some new speakers in the back. They are Kenwood KFC-PS170. It looks as though they will fit. If the bass is still not improved after this installation I am thinking about fitting a graphic equaliser booster, maybe just 30w x 30w to fill out the sound a bit.

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absolutehype Valve Cap Join Date: 8th August 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey guys, best bet is to look on either http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/home.html or http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/home.html both these sites have stores in tottenham court road, london. They are really really cheap because they buy in immense bulk. In most cases you will save double on what you would pay at halfords and at least these guys can give u advice and know what their talking about. Personally i would go for a set of infinity components in the front. You can get a set of references for like £70, kappa are generally a fair bit more and to be honest you dont notice the difference unless your going competition.