Speakers A little bit of Speaker Advice Needed

CK2 · 30th August 2007, 22:55

Hi
Just wondering if anyone out there has heard of FOCAL speakers. I called down to my local ICE specialist today & he is trying to convince me to put in a set of 130 V Slim or 165 V slim polglass speakers in the front of the civic,which ever fit.

I have done a bit of business with them before and found no problem. He says that they are made by the hand or some **** like that

,but he raves about them.
Because I am not putting in a amp or sub he recommends i spend a bit more on the speakers.
By the way its a 3 month old NHB typeS GT (I sound like a proud parent

)

Any Advice would be gratful

CK2

czechplastik · 30th August 2007, 23:11

How much £ or Euro are we talking?

Pottsy · 30th August 2007, 23:35

I had Focals in my M3 and my Boxster. They were very good indeed, only drawbacks being that you needed a good amp, they took a little while to run in and they are not cheap!

Plenty of reviews on the net, eg:

Focal 165W Review in Car Audio at Review Centre

CK2 · 31st August 2007, 09:43

He is talking about €300 for the speaker & a little more to fit them.
I am happy enough with the fitting charge as there is no way I am going to start taking the car apart.
He will fit infinity's or any thing else if I relly want
but he really recommends these ase there made by the wings of falling angels or something like that.....

Nick7 · 31st August 2007, 10:43

Check sensitivity they have. More sensitive speakers -> less power they need for some sound level.
Usually all above 92db is very good.

CK2 · 31st August 2007, 10:49

Hi Nick7
The 130 V slim has a sensitivity of 91dB & the 165 V slim has 93dB so that seems to be ok.

CK2

superfrog · 30th November 2007, 13:03

thumbs up for focal. top-end stuff there...

I still swear by MBQuart tho...

Koen · 30th November 2007, 14:20

There is another thread somewhere here about the Focals.
As for the sensivity: Yes, the higher the sensivity, the louder the speaker sounds with the same power applied.

e.g. A speaker with 92dB/W/m sounds just as loud at 100 watt as a 89dB/W/m speaker at 200 watt. And a 95dB/W/m only needs 50 watt to be equally loud!
In other words: every extra 3dB you want, requires you to double the power! (Or go for a speaker with higher sensivity.)

But beware: speakers with high sensivity are in general not that linear when it comes to sound reproduction. They tend to add more "color" to the sound. This is not necessary a bad thing, it's merely a question of taste. And whether if you are after hifi or not. (Which is extremely difficult in a car.)

K.

duffbear · 30th November 2007, 16:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by CK2

He is talking about €300 for the speaker & a little more to fit them.
I am happy enough with the fitting charge as there is no way I am going to start taking the car apart.
He will fit infinity's or any thing else if I relly want
but he really recommends these ase there made by the wings of falling angels or something like that.....

Got mine supplied and fitted for £230 last week. They are starting to sound great now. On the look out for a new amp now

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How much £ or Euro are we talking?

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Pottsy Administrator Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 4,772 Thanks: 7 Thanked 64 Times in 33 Posts	I had Focals in my M3 and my Boxster. They were very good indeed, only drawbacks being that you needed a good amp, they took a little while to run in and they are not cheap! Plenty of reviews on the net, eg: Focal 165W Review in Car Audio at Review Centre

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CK2 Valve Cap Join Date: 18th May 2007 Location: Waterford, Ireland Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	He is talking about €300 for the speaker & a little more to fit them. I am happy enough with the fitting charge as there is no way I am going to start taking the car apart. He will fit infinity's or any thing else if I relly want but he really recommends these ase there made by the wings of falling angels or something like that.....

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Nick7 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th August 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 442 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Check sensitivity they have. More sensitive speakers -> less power they need for some sound level. Usually all above 92db is very good.

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CK2 Valve Cap Join Date: 18th May 2007 Location: Waterford, Ireland Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Nick7 The 130 V slim has a sensitivity of 91dB & the 165 V slim has 93dB so that seems to be ok. CK2

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superfrog Valve Cap Join Date: 30th November 2007 Location: South Africa Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thumbs up for focal. top-end stuff there... I still swear by MBQuart tho...

30th November 2007, 14:20	#8 (permalink)
Koen Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 18th September 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 238 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There is another thread somewhere here about the Focals. As for the sensivity: Yes, the higher the sensivity, the louder the speaker sounds with the same power applied. e.g. A speaker with 92dB/W/m sounds just as loud at 100 watt as a 89dB/W/m speaker at 200 watt. And a 95dB/W/m only needs 50 watt to be equally loud! In other words: every extra 3dB you want, requires you to double the power! (Or go for a speaker with higher sensivity.) But beware: speakers with high sensivity are in general not that linear when it comes to sound reproduction. They tend to add more "color" to the sound. This is not necessary a bad thing, it's merely a question of taste. And whether if you are after hifi or not. (Which is extremely difficult in a car.) K.