Bulbs LED replacements for tail, brake and indicator lights

squirrelz · 14th March 2008, 09:52

Has anyone found suitable LED replacements for the tail, brake and indicator bulbs yet?

I seem to remember someone trying some 24? LED cluster lights for the brake lights a bit back (which didn't fit as they were too big) but I'm sure there are a lot more options now, and wondered if anyone had tried them?

robbo51 · 16th March 2008, 17:23

Unknownsoldier · 16th March 2008, 18:20

Especially as 99.9% of LED replacement bulbs etc. are illegal for road use.

Tom

robbo51 · 16th March 2008, 18:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

Especially as 99.9% of LED replacement bulbs etc. are illegal for road use.

Tom

Really.
Could you post where you got this information from please?

Unknownsoldier · 16th March 2008, 19:22

I believe I read it on a lights site, stating that the current DVLA or whatever regulations have no way of testing and therefore E rating these bulbs except where they have been supplied from factory, I will try to dig out the info from somewhere.

Also, 90% are not E marked or Dot marked (especially those on ebay).

ATB,
Tom

civicfan · 16th March 2008, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo51

Really.
Could you post where you got this information from please?

I got it from the LED bulb package, read it carefully to avoid trouble. It depends on where you live, I can't have these LEDs in Germany because police here are very strict, in neighboring Poland probably as long as the lights are working properly nobody would even ask

squirrelz · 17th March 2008, 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo51

Why?

Because heating a piece of wire to produce light seems so 20th Century?

Unknownsoldier · 17th March 2008, 08:42

But technically your still doing that in a diode, it's just it is sealed with no vacuum-gap around the wire surely, thats why they last so long?????

Tom

squirrelz · 17th March 2008, 08:46

No you're not, an LED directly converts electricity into photons, that's why they don't heat up, and why they consume significantly less power.

cylon2007 · 17th March 2008, 08:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknownsoldier

But technically your still doing that in a diode, it's just it is sealed with no vacuum-gap around the wire surely, thats why they last so long?????

Tom

No you aren't,

a LED has no filament But unlike ordinary incandescent bulbs, they don't have a filament that will burn out, and they don't get especially hot. They are illuminated solely by the movement of electrons in a semiconductor material, and they last just as long as a standard transistor.

taken from here Howstuffworks "How Light Emitting Diodes Work"

Unknownsoldier · 17th March 2008, 09:19

Fair enough, I did put the qs to indicate I wasn't sure.

Also "Because heating a piece of wire to produce light seems so 20th Century?", and a fossil suel driven internal combustion engine isn't?

Tom

squirrelz · 17th March 2008, 09:28

True, but that part would be the slightest bit more expensive to replace.

Unknownsoldier · 17th March 2008, 09:37

Here we go Maplin state the car ones the sell are []Maplin > 12V BAY15s 19 x LED Red
"• All products are for off road and show use only
• Not legal for use on public highways"

As do the majority of LED bulb boxes; I beleive even if they are E-marked, they are not currently covered by legislation in the UK, as they have not been sufficiently tested, but can't find where I got it from, probably from my few chats with traffic police from when I modded my Corsa (back when I was immature and di silly things like that

), it had Lexus clusters and LED bulbs, got a right ticking off and a 7 day wonder if memory serves (however luckily my mate was driving when it got tugged).

Tom

Unknownsoldier · 17th March 2008, 09:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by squirrelz

True, but that part would be the slightest bit more expensive to replace.

Could have had a 21st century hybrid, scratch that, thats just silly

lol.

Tom

terry · 17th March 2008, 19:49

I'm sure I have seen some cars with LED rear lights...VW's and Jaguars I think.

Terry

FWH · 17th March 2008, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by terry

I'm sure I have seen some cars with LED rear lights...VW's and Jaguars I think.

Terry

Audi A6 Avant (at least some of them) has LED tail lights.
But these are original certified items, not aftermarket.

Oh and most 3rd brake lights are LED...including..?...

Unknownsoldier · 17th March 2008, 20:45

BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, Honda............................................. ................

Tom

NEEMSTAR · 17th March 2008, 20:50

The Audi LED running lights look good imo

Andiww · 17th March 2008, 22:47

There is one main problem with installing led to our cars. We have a very uncommon type of bulbs. In Honda we have those as stop, taillights and rear turn signal:
327034597.jpg

and these are the most common mainly produced as led:
323671587.jpg

Unfortunately the ending is very different and its impossible to find led bulbs fitting to our cars

Andiww · 21st March 2008, 18:42

I've found a suitable led bulbs for Civic. This model is called 7443 or 7440 (not sure which one exactly) like this one:
7443, Car Tuning Styling, Women's Clothing, Car Accessories items at low prices on eBay.co.uk

14th March 2008, 09:52	#1 (permalink)
squirrelz Valve Cap Join Date: 23rd April 2007 Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	LED replacements for tail, brake and indicator lights Has anyone found suitable LED replacements for the tail, brake and indicator bulbs yet? I seem to remember someone trying some 24? LED cluster lights for the brake lights a bit back (which didn't fit as they were too big) but I'm sure there are a lot more options now, and wondered if anyone had tried them?

17th March 2008, 09:19	#11 (permalink)
Unknownsoldier Comedian/Smart Ase Civinfo guru* Join Date: 22nd September 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 2,261 Thanks: 37 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts	Fair enough, I did put the qs to indicate I wasn't sure. Also "Because heating a piece of wire to produce light seems so 20th Century?", and a fossil suel driven internal combustion engine isn't? Tom Last edited by Unknownsoldier; 17th March 2008 at 09:24.

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16th March 2008, 17:23	#2 (permalink)
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16th March 2008, 18:20	#3 (permalink)
Unknownsoldier Comedian/Smart Ase Civinfo guru* Join Date: 22nd September 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 2,261 Thanks: 37 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts	Especially as 99.9% of LED replacement bulbs etc. are illegal for road use. Tom

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Unknownsoldier Comedian/Smart Ase Civinfo guru* Join Date: 22nd September 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 2,261 Thanks: 37 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts	I believe I read it on a lights site, stating that the current DVLA or whatever regulations have no way of testing and therefore E rating these bulbs except where they have been supplied from factory, I will try to dig out the info from somewhere. Also, 90% are not E marked or Dot marked (especially those on ebay). ATB, Tom

17th March 2008, 08:42	#8 (permalink)
Unknownsoldier Comedian/Smart Ase Civinfo guru* Join Date: 22nd September 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 2,261 Thanks: 37 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts	But technically your still doing that in a diode, it's just it is sealed with no vacuum-gap around the wire surely, thats why they last so long????? Tom

17th March 2008, 08:46	#9 (permalink)
squirrelz Valve Cap Join Date: 23rd April 2007 Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No you're not, an LED directly converts electricity into photons, that's why they don't heat up, and why they consume significantly less power.

17th March 2008, 09:28	#12 (permalink)
squirrelz Valve Cap Join Date: 23rd April 2007 Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	True, but that part would be the slightest bit more expensive to replace.

17th March 2008, 09:37	#13 (permalink)
Unknownsoldier Comedian/Smart Ase Civinfo guru* Join Date: 22nd September 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 2,261 Thanks: 37 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts	Here we go Maplin state the car ones the sell are []Maplin > 12V BAY15s 19 x LED Red "• All products are for off road and show use only • Not legal for use on public highways" As do the majority of LED bulb boxes; I beleive even if they are E-marked, they are not currently covered by legislation in the UK, as they have not been sufficiently tested, but can't find where I got it from, probably from my few chats with traffic police from when I modded my Corsa (back when I was immature and di silly things like that ), it had Lexus clusters and LED bulbs, got a right ticking off and a 7 day wonder if memory serves (however luckily my mate was driving when it got tugged). Tom

17th March 2008, 19:49	#15 (permalink)
terry Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th September 2006 Location: Cambridge Posts: 321 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm sure I have seen some cars with LED rear lights...VW's and Jaguars I think. Terry

17th March 2008, 20:45	#17 (permalink)
Unknownsoldier Comedian/Smart Ase Civinfo guru* Join Date: 22nd September 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 2,261 Thanks: 37 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts	BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, Honda............................................. ................ Tom

17th March 2008, 20:50	#18 (permalink)
NEEMSTAR Nobody gets out alive Rocketship door handle Join Date: 7th October 2007 Location: In your mind Posts: 1,032 Thanks: 24 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	The Audi LED running lights look good imo

17th March 2008, 22:47	#19 (permalink)
Andiww Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 4th March 2008 Location: Poznan, Poland Posts: 104 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There is one main problem with installing led to our cars. We have a very uncommon type of bulbs. In Honda we have those as stop, taillights and rear turn signal: 327034597.jpg and these are the most common mainly produced as led: 323671587.jpg Unfortunately the ending is very different and its impossible to find led bulbs fitting to our cars

21st March 2008, 18:42	#20 (permalink)
Andiww Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 4th March 2008 Location: Poznan, Poland Posts: 104 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've found a suitable led bulbs for Civic. This model is called 7443 or 7440 (not sure which one exactly) like this one: 7443, Car Tuning Styling, Women's Clothing, Car Accessories items at low prices on eBay.co.uk