HID Not very bright!

czechplastik · 14th December 2006, 21:47

I've been a bit bemused with the HID's recently, they just don't seem very bright at all. Now i agree with the auto dipping and that it doesn't illuminate enough of the road, but the actual light emitted looks positively dull. The longer nights has just highlighted this to me. Anyone else have similar views?

JPDirect · 14th December 2006, 23:33

Hiya mate,

I was a bit upset when the car came out and Honda, for some reason, decided NOT to make the headlights in the style of the Projector lights. I reckon they make the light just a little brighter (however, this is not a scientific fact - they just look brighter to me)!

What do you think of the Projector lights?

Ancient Nerd · 14th December 2006, 23:48

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Originally Posted by czechplastik

I've been a bit bemused with the HID's recently, they just don't seem very bright at all. Now i agree with the auto dipping and that it doesn't illuminate enough of the road, but the actual light emitted looks positively dull. The longer nights has just highlighted this to me. Anyone else have similar views?

Yes, for HIDs they are quite mediocre. Not a patch on the ones on my previous renault laguna.

sarahjo · 15th December 2006, 03:12

Are you guys sure you don't need to wash your cars

IWANTACIVIC · 15th December 2006, 04:13

A few weeks ago i would have agreed with you i had xeon bulbs in my 307 and they were alot brighter and wider ,but after reading about poor lights and how to adjust theses lights i thought i would try to adjust them after much testing i finshed on 1 to 1,25 turns up on both lights and there lots better , as good speard and full beam as my 307 and the dips are maybe 10% worst then my adjusted 307, but alot better so my tip would be see if your light are setup propley or try to adjust them abit at first and see if it makes them better or not , easy to adjust and put back if you dont get any benfit.

My slight moan is when I came back from work the other morning it was quite misty not real fog but i thought Id try the fog lamps and what a slight ive got boz eyed fog lamps I thought , 1 lamp lights the far half of the verge up and the dike up the other one trys to light the other verge up , not 1 watt in front of the car, has anyone used then in real fog do they work or more civic for show ?

?????

czechplastik · 15th December 2006, 04:26

Thanks wantaciv, I;ll have a play when i get home, it just doesn't look right!

IWANTACIVIC · 15th December 2006, 04:38

And if its still dark czech try your fogs for me do yours look like real side lamps lol light the side of the road not in front.

Bungle · 15th December 2006, 19:13

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Originally Posted by IWANTACIVIC

My slight moan is when I came back from work the other morning it was quite misty not real fog but i thought Id try the fog lamps and what a slight ive got boz eyed fog lamps I thought , 1 lamp lights the far half of the verge up and the dike up the other one trys to light the other verge up , not 1 watt in front of the car, has anyone used then in real fog do they work or more civic for show ?

?????

Um, that is exactly what fog lights are supposed to do, so in that case yours are working perfectly!

Fogs should only be used if you are getting glare from your dipped beam from thick fog or possibly falling snow.
The fog lights are designed to lilluminate the edges of the road so you can make slow, safe progress. Remember, you need to be able to stop well withing the distance you can see to be clear, so if the fog is that thick...

Also, fog lights should not really light up the road ahead of you, that would be dangerous as it would over illuminate your foreground and would stop you seeing far.

AubreyS · 15th December 2006, 21:12

I think the HID's are fine. I had projector's on my old Civic and I think that these are much brighter.

czechplastik · 15th December 2006, 23:36

The Fogs are illegal unless visibility is sufficiently poor and even then its only in very bad conditions, the glare blinds oncoming motorists, they're a pet hate of mine, never use them!

Kpow99 · 18th December 2006, 18:39

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Originally Posted by czechplastik

The Fogs are illegal unless visibility is sufficiently poor and even then its only in very bad conditions, the glare blinds oncoming motorists, they're a pet hate of mine, never use them!

Just off topic slightly, what is the possible fine for improper use of fog lights? what section of the road traffic act? The highway code just says you must not use unless necessary and I remember somewhere it used to be up to £1000 for rear but I guess as more cars now have fronts as well that it will apply as well.

Yes do agree fog lights can be a real pain in the a$$ but mine HID do seem a little low, will get the dealer to check when I'm booked in next week.

czechplastik · 18th December 2006, 20:28

The fine is £30 non endorsable, meaning no points, but its a silly way to loose money!

KevinF · 18th December 2006, 21:29

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Originally Posted by czechplastik

The fine is £30 non endorsable, meaning no points, but its a silly way to loose money!

And oh how I wish this law was enforced. On a one hour drive to Basingstoke this morning, I counted 29 cars with front fogs on. Do they think it creates a Startrek-like force field or do they think it makes their ***ks bigger? You know who you are!

KevinF.

Nick7 · 19th December 2006, 08:22

Well, I hate when people use front fog lights unnecessarily (especially ones with only fog limps, and no low beams).
But, that is nothing compared to rear fog lights, that some people tend to use even in city, even when there's no fog. Now that are people I would shoot down.

basegreen · 19th December 2006, 08:35

I suspect they think it makes their car look like some sort of rally car and therefore if they turn them on, they are instantly cool.

Kpow99 · 19th December 2006, 09:27

Funny thing last night, I had to turn mine on cos there was really think patchy fog in places and no sooner as I'd got out of one bit with my lights on a volvo going the other way flashed me

i guess he'd find out soon why i had them on cos he was about to go down in to the dark dips where the fog was....needless to say I turned off soon after

14th December 2006, 21:47	#1 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not very bright! I've been a bit bemused with the HID's recently, they just don't seem very bright at all. Now i agree with the auto dipping and that it doesn't illuminate enough of the road, but the actual light emitted looks positively dull. The longer nights has just highlighted this to me. Anyone else have similar views?

15th December 2006, 04:13	#5 (permalink)
IWANTACIVIC Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th September 2006 Location: LINCS UK Posts: 658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	A few weeks ago i would have agreed with you i had xeon bulbs in my 307 and they were alot brighter and wider ,but after reading about poor lights and how to adjust theses lights i thought i would try to adjust them after much testing i finshed on 1 to 1,25 turns up on both lights and there lots better , as good speard and full beam as my 307 and the dips are maybe 10% worst then my adjusted 307, but alot better so my tip would be see if your light are setup propley or try to adjust them abit at first and see if it makes them better or not , easy to adjust and put back if you dont get any benfit. My slight moan is when I came back from work the other morning it was quite misty not real fog but i thought Id try the fog lamps and what a slight ive got boz eyed fog lamps I thought , 1 lamp lights the far half of the verge up and the dike up the other one trys to light the other verge up , not 1 watt in front of the car, has anyone used then in real fog do they work or more civic for show ? ????? Last edited by IWANTACIVIC; 15th December 2006 at 04:34.

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JPDirect Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 1st October 2006 Location: London Posts: 172 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hiya mate, I was a bit upset when the car came out and Honda, for some reason, decided NOT to make the headlights in the style of the Projector lights. I reckon they make the light just a little brighter (however, this is not a scientific fact - they just look brighter to me)! What do you think of the Projector lights?

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks wantaciv, I;ll have a play when i get home, it just doesn't look right!

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IWANTACIVIC Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th September 2006 Location: LINCS UK Posts: 658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	And if its still dark czech try your fogs for me do yours look like real side lamps lol light the side of the road not in front.

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AubreyS Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 12th August 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 319 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think the HID's are fine. I had projector's on my old Civic and I think that these are much brighter.

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