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L7 KVV · 19th December 2006, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Korkut Varol

Turkey does not have headlight washers. The car itself is EX, but headlight washers, and satnav are excluded. It also does not come with HID lamps, I had them fitted when I took the car.
BTW, headlamp washing does not have anything to do with the kind of bulb inside... It is only a matter of paying for the facility to clean the mud on the glass. Actually, from what I have seen, it does not wipe the surface clean, but wets the glass with a water jet so the glass+mud combination is more transparent. But unless you have wipers for the headlamps, positive cleaning is not possible. It is only a washer and is useful to a certain extent.

I belive the washers are there to cool the light unit down. My passat squirts its headlight washers on its own if they have been on for a while.
Id like to know if anyone who has them is impressed with the HID lights. I did not think they were much good on the demonstrator i tested.

CivPilot · 26th December 2006, 13:58

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Originally Posted by L7 KVV

Id like to know if anyone who has them is impressed with the HID lights. I did not think they were much good on the demonstrator i tested.

Well I first test drove a car without them then one with them fitted, both driven on the same evening on the same stretch of road.

The HID's are FAR better than the normal lights and it wasnt a trick of the mind as I was testing a Diesel against petrol and wasnt aware that one didn't have HID bulbs. I made a comment on the lights being far better in the second car at which point the salesman told me it was HID equiped.

Maldax · 26th December 2006, 14:11

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Originally Posted by L7 KVV

I belive the washers are there to cool the light unit down. My passat squirts its headlight washers on its own if they have been on for a while.
Id like to know if anyone who has them is impressed with the HID lights. I did not think they were much good on the demonstrator i tested.

Honda seem to err on the side of setting the HID's too low. I move mine up a smidge and they are great. Not been flashed so I guess I have not set them too high

Korkut Varol · 26th December 2006, 14:20

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Originally Posted by L7 KVV

I belive the washers are there to cool the light unit down. My passat squirts its headlight washers on its own if they have been on for a while.
Id like to know if anyone who has them is impressed with the HID lights. I did not think they were much good on the demonstrator i tested.

So in summer nights, the front of your Passat should be wet

It is the first time I ever heard of cooling the lamps with exterior washing... Are you sure that it is not due to a fault that triggers the pump? Are other Passats the same?

I can see better at night with HIDs. Of that, I am sure....

czechplastik · 26th December 2006, 17:41

I'm just not convinced on the HIDS, i just don't think they're bright enough compared to other cars.

L7 KVV · 27th December 2006, 23:41

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Originally Posted by Korkut Varol

So in summer nights, the front of your Passat should be wet

It is the first time I ever heard of cooling the lamps with exterior washing... Are you sure that it is not due to a fault that triggers the pump? Are other Passats the same?

I can see better at night with HIDs. Of that, I am sure....

Whats wrong with the front of my car being wet? Summer or not its gona be wet in NI.

Its not the only car I noticed the auto washing on

v001148 · 29th December 2006, 09:38

PhilA · 29th December 2006, 10:04

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Originally Posted by v001148

Over the holiday I decided to fit the fog lamps I bought some weeks ago. My civic is a 2006 2.2 sport with 17" wheels - as a sport variant it is not fitted with headlamp washers.
I was surprised therefore to discover on removing the front bumper that all the plumbing (fully connected) is in place for the headlamp washers. It appears to me that all that is missing is the nozzles to replace the blanking plates on the front of the bumper.
Does anyone have experience of this - I am I right in thinking if I buy and fit the nozzles that the headlamp washer system will function?? or is it more than that??
As an aside it seems strange to fit all the plumbing for a non functioning headlamp washer system but not the wiring loom for the fog lamps!

The nozzles are motorised (i.e. they're behind the blanking plates and move forwards on operation), so you'd also need the wiring in place for them I guess

civicsport · 29th December 2006, 10:32

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Originally Posted by PhilA

The nozzles are motorised (i.e. they're behind the blanking plates and move forwards on operation), so you'd also need the wiring in place for them I guess

There not motorised PhilA, they use the high water pressure to extend the telescopic arms the nozzles are fixed to.

BL · 31st December 2006, 12:23

My Civic 1.8 Sport has the headlight washers but I wish it didn't or at least they made a separate switch for activating them. They waste so much fluid and leaves the whole front a wet mess of cleaning fluid.

I'm thinking about disabling them for good or maybe have the Honda shop make a switch for it, which is probably going to be an expensive fix for the problem.

So my advice is that if it is optional on your Civic, don't buy them.

/BL

civicsport · 1st January 2007, 16:06

If you have HID Headlights then you have to have the washers by law in the UK, Not sure of Denmark, Then disabling them would be illegal.

Copycat · 2nd January 2007, 07:03

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Originally Posted by civicsport

If you have HID Headlights then you have to have the washers by law in the UK, Not sure of Denmark, Then disabling them would be illegal.

Uuh, yes. But you see, Sport level everywhere else doesn't include HIDs. A Sport Civic outside the UK has normal halogen bulbs and headlight washers. Strange combo, I know. I would not have minded paying a bit extra for Xenons on my 1.8 Sport.

Copycat · 2nd January 2007, 07:05

Here's a pic of a Finnish Civic with washers and without HIDs.

Attachment 18

Oh, and the picture was taken last February. Haven't seen that much snow since then.

czechplastik · 2nd January 2007, 13:19

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Originally Posted by Copycat

Here's a pic of a Finnish Civic with washers and without HIDs.

Attachment 18

Oh, and the picture was taken last February. Haven't seen that much snow since then.

Interesting! Different countries have different needs!

Personally i'd love a bit of snow down here this year but we seldom get anything worth mentioning. I'm sure you're sick of it anyway!

Meino · 4th January 2007, 14:15

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Originally Posted by Copycat

I would not have minded paying a bit extra for Xenons on my 1.8 Sport.

In the Netherlands that bit is €1000.. I couldn't justify that for some extra light...

Nick7 · 7th January 2007, 09:11

Well, I could justify it

I had to upgrade from 'sport' to 'executive' option though, which means xenons+glass roof+dual climate.
Xenons vs halogen light IS big, especially when driving lots over night on non-highways, which I do quite a lot over summer, and visibility of road is extremely important. More light = more visibility, and less strain on eyes aswell.

cypriot · 7th January 2007, 11:04

yes i have xenons and washers on my sport but washers is not a big deal.but xenons are must have

Meino · 9th January 2007, 15:07

Can't complain about the lights, maybe because most of the roads in Holland are well lighted (correct english?). That's why I can't or maybe don't want to justify the € 1000

lippy · 2nd February 2007, 23:18

On UK spec, the Sport has HID lights and headlightwashers. However some of you may not realise that the washers for the headlights only work when the lights are ON.

I think HIDs are a lot brighter - the blue white light is much better than standard lights - more like daylight.

HIDs are also on automatic adjustment for height and mine seem to work OK.

BrianAlbertsen · 2nd February 2007, 23:38

You can have my set of headlight washers

Here in denmark we have daylight running lights and the light are always on and so are the headlight washers.

My civic holds around 6,5 lites of washing fluid. My old Pug 206 only held 2,5 liters. But I have to refill my civic more often.

But I'm not bothered. The ride in the Civic is so much better

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BL Valve Cap Join Date: 12th August 2006 Location: Aarhus, Denmark Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My Civic 1.8 Sport has the headlight washers but I wish it didn't or at least they made a separate switch for activating them. They waste so much fluid and leaves the whole front a wet mess of cleaning fluid. I'm thinking about disabling them for good or maybe have the Honda shop make a switch for it, which is probably going to be an expensive fix for the problem. So my advice is that if it is optional on your Civic, don't buy them. /BL Last edited by BL; 31st December 2006 at 21:34.

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm just not convinced on the HIDS, i just don't think they're bright enough compared to other cars.

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civicsport Mr. Foglights Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: Stockton-on-Tees Posts: 189 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you have HID Headlights then you have to have the washers by law in the UK, Not sure of Denmark, Then disabling them would be illegal.

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Copycat Galaxy class starship Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1,049 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here's a pic of a Finnish Civic with washers and without HIDs. Attachment 18 Oh, and the picture was taken last February. Haven't seen that much snow since then.

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Nick7 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th August 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 444 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Well, I could justify it I had to upgrade from 'sport' to 'executive' option though, which means xenons+glass roof+dual climate. Xenons vs halogen light IS big, especially when driving lots over night on non-highways, which I do quite a lot over summer, and visibility of road is extremely important. More light = more visibility, and less strain on eyes aswell.

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cypriot Valve Cap Join Date: 5th January 2007 Location: Cyprus Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yes i have xenons and washers on my sport but washers is not a big deal.but xenons are must have

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Meino Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 18th October 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 474 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can't complain about the lights, maybe because most of the roads in Holland are well lighted (correct english?). That's why I can't or maybe don't want to justify the € 1000

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lippy Bournemouth Belle Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th January 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 394 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	On UK spec, the Sport has HID lights and headlightwashers. However some of you may not realise that the washers for the headlights only work when the lights are ON. I think HIDs are a lot brighter - the blue white light is much better than standard lights - more like daylight. HIDs are also on automatic adjustment for height and mine seem to work OK.

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BrianAlbertsen Valve Cap Join Date: 17th November 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You can have my set of headlight washers Here in denmark we have daylight running lights and the light are always on and so are the headlight washers. My civic holds around 6,5 lites of washing fluid. My old Pug 206 only held 2,5 liters. But I have to refill my civic more often. But I'm not bothered. The ride in the Civic is so much better