Fog Front fog lamp - smashed

richierich · 21st July 2006, 17:27

Can anyone think how my front offside foglamp has smashed in the last 2 days parked in the long stay at Heathrow? No sign of impact so i doubt it happened on the way there. It looks like there are 3 cracks each eminating from the corners of the light, very odd.

Pics added, if any of you recall me posting previously about a loose fog lamp, I think it was this one, could the 2 be connected?

Bungle · 21st July 2006, 20:37

Sorry to hear of the damage. My guess would be that it was hit by something on the way there, maybe a stone or something. Maybe even a bird?!

Seems unlikely that a fog lamp lens would be damaged in a bump whilt the car was parked, and it is an unlikely target for vandalism.

You mentioned that the lamp was loose. It's not impossible that it vibrated at tjust the right (or wrong) frequency on the motorway and cracked itself.

How much for replacement?

WoolyCiv · 21st July 2006, 22:44

Looks as if a stone has hit on the lower corner and if the fog was a little loose then this coupled with a hole caused by a stone could feasbly cause the other cracks.

I once had similar damage caused by a stone on a headlamp.

Maldax · 22nd July 2006, 00:39

Heat?

Pottsy · 22nd July 2006, 08:58

It's a fascinating break. The cracks run the non-obvious way along the length, as if the force came from deforming the upper and lower parts of the lights (not the left and right). I'm going to guess a poorly fitted lens (so pre-stressed) with a rapid temperature change or a kick as the final straw.

I've not had a fog light in my hand - could anyone see if it's possible to get the lens on a bit wrong?

basegreen · 22nd July 2006, 09:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

It's a fascinating break.

Must be a barrel of laughs in your house at night

elfa7 · 22nd July 2006, 10:10

You say " I doubt it happened on the way there". Which means you can't say for sure that it did'nt happen on the way down. If it was loose, it could have been vibration. Or stone. Or BUTTERFLY STRIKE !!!!!

elfa7 · 22nd July 2006, 10:12

I meant LADYBIRD STRIKE.

richierich · 22nd July 2006, 10:13

Could be one of those bloody ladybirds.

Pottsy · 22nd July 2006, 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by basegreen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

It's a fascinating break.

Must be a barrel of laughs in your house at night

It is! If J is really lucky I'll give her a talk on inverse Laplace transforms, followed by a quick Euler.

richierich · 22nd July 2006, 11:42

I dream of having a quick Euler with the wife, and perhaps a friend.

Pottsy · 22nd July 2006, 12:23

The best transform is a 4-way.

elfa7 · 22nd July 2006, 13:49

DanKo · 8th August 2006, 17:55

oK, Which ugly b@stard look'ed at the fog light....Own up

Only messing. Hehe

Prob's could of been a small stone that hit it while your on your way down to Heatrow or somthing, Or like the other member said, could of been the temperture changing coursing it to crack?:S

Not a clue.

Regards Dan

richierich · 9th August 2006, 08:57

I have had it looked at and it has been put down to a stone chip, along with the chips on the front wing, which my companies accident management people are dealing with (apparantly any bodywork damage is handled by accident management peeps), so as soon as the fog lanp is delivered to AutoRestore they are bringing their mobile paint booth to my house and the fog lamp is replaced and the wing resprayed.

audijohn · 11th September 2006, 15:12

Hi Guys new to this forum BUT same problem. Both Front Fog Lamps on the wifes car are the same as your ,Broken in the corners (3 corners) This we think is a "stress related problem and we are going to make a warantee claim on it.
Best regards AJ
PS our car is 5 months old on a 06 Plate.

Pottsy · 11th September 2006, 16:15

AudiJohns original thread is here: http://www.tyresmoke.net/ubbthreads/...0/fpart/1/vc/1

It has to be one of two things - a design fault (possibly assembly) or just the way it breaks if it gets hit by a stone. To me though it does look a bit suspicious...

richierich · 11th September 2006, 16:29

I put mine down to stress initially, cos it had been parked facing the sun during all that heat we had earlier in the year, but then put it down to a stone chip when I found the mark on the wing. Its getting fixed on Friday, and although I should not really say this I am not too bothered as its going through the companies insurance.

Would love to hear what they say AJ.

basegreen · 26th September 2006, 17:52

Just bumped into a woman today who had a 1.8 EX with two smashed fogs, same thing. She's going to come on the site and post about her problems!

Jobo · 26th September 2006, 17:56

Do you think it is a design fault? Most fog lights are round and recessed. I've never heard of other fog lights shattering before?

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21st July 2006, 20:37	#2 (permalink)
Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry to hear of the damage. My guess would be that it was hit by something on the way there, maybe a stone or something. Maybe even a bird?! Seems unlikely that a fog lamp lens would be damaged in a bump whilt the car was parked, and it is an unlikely target for vandalism. You mentioned that the lamp was loose. It's not impossible that it vibrated at tjust the right (or wrong) frequency on the motorway and cracked itself. How much for replacement?

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WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looks as if a stone has hit on the lower corner and if the fog was a little loose then this coupled with a hole caused by a stone could feasbly cause the other cracks. I once had similar damage caused by a stone on a headlamp.

22nd July 2006, 00:39	#4 (permalink)
Maldax Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 12th June 2006 Location: Reading, Berks Posts: 1,046 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Heat?

22nd July 2006, 08:58	#5 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 4,775 Thanks: 7 Thanked 64 Times in 33 Posts	It's a fascinating break. The cracks run the non-obvious way along the length, as if the force came from deforming the upper and lower parts of the lights (not the left and right). I'm going to guess a poorly fitted lens (so pre-stressed) with a rapid temperature change or a kick as the final straw. I've not had a fog light in my hand - could anyone see if it's possible to get the lens on a bit wrong?

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elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You say " I doubt it happened on the way there". Which means you can't say for sure that it did'nt happen on the way down. If it was loose, it could have been vibration. Or stone. Or BUTTERFLY STRIKE !!!!!

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elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I meant LADYBIRD STRIKE.

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richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Could be one of those bloody ladybirds.

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richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I dream of having a quick Euler with the wife, and perhaps a friend.

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Pottsy Administrator Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 4,775 Thanks: 7 Thanked 64 Times in 33 Posts	The best transform is a 4-way.

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DanKo Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 7th August 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 541 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	oK, Which ugly b@stard look'ed at the fog light....Own up Only messing. Hehe Prob's could of been a small stone that hit it while your on your way down to Heatrow or somthing, Or like the other member said, could of been the temperture changing coursing it to crack?:S Not a clue. Regards Dan

9th August 2006, 08:57	#15 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have had it looked at and it has been put down to a stone chip, along with the chips on the front wing, which my companies accident management people are dealing with (apparantly any bodywork damage is handled by accident management peeps), so as soon as the fog lanp is delivered to AutoRestore they are bringing their mobile paint booth to my house and the fog lamp is replaced and the wing resprayed.

11th September 2006, 15:12	#16 (permalink)
audijohn Wheelnut Join Date: 11th September 2006 Location: Norfolk UK Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Guys new to this forum BUT same problem. Both Front Fog Lamps on the wifes car are the same as your ,Broken in the corners (3 corners) This we think is a "stress related problem and we are going to make a warantee claim on it. Best regards AJ PS our car is 5 months old on a 06 Plate.

11th September 2006, 16:15	#17 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 4,775 Thanks: 7 Thanked 64 Times in 33 Posts	AudiJohns original thread is here: http://www.tyresmoke.net/ubbthreads/...0/fpart/1/vc/1 It has to be one of two things - a design fault (possibly assembly) or just the way it breaks if it gets hit by a stone. To me though it does look a bit suspicious...

11th September 2006, 16:29	#18 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,844 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I put mine down to stress initially, cos it had been parked facing the sun during all that heat we had earlier in the year, but then put it down to a stone chip when I found the mark on the wing. Its getting fixed on Friday, and although I should not really say this I am not too bothered as its going through the companies insurance. Would love to hear what they say AJ.

26th September 2006, 17:52	#19 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,865 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Just bumped into a woman today who had a 1.8 EX with two smashed fogs, same thing. She's going to come on the site and post about her problems!

26th September 2006, 17:56	#20 (permalink)
Jobo Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 683 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Do you think it is a design fault? Most fog lights are round and recessed. I've never heard of other fog lights shattering before?