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Kremmen · 9th January 2008, 12:37

So far I've been lucky and - I never use them anyway.

It would be interesting to know how many of the shattered lenses are on cars that actually use the foglights (or not).

That may bring a heat issue to light (not avoiding the pun)

gmp · 9th January 2008, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by suelecca

Purchased my civic in June 2006. After 3 weeks noticed cracked fog lamp glass on passenger side. Spoke to dealer and he said it was just bad luck probably caused by stone chip. Dec 07 noticed other one is now cracked. Spoke to dealer again and he said same thing and that he was not aware of any problems with fog lamps and that internet forums were used by people who like to complain!!! Taking car in on Friday for brake pads replacement so they will look at fog lamps. My husband and I have been driving for nearly thirty years and have been lucky enough to have owned many different cars and have NEVER had a fog lamp crack.

Hi,I am pleased I don't have to deal with your dealer!Why don't you try elsewhere!,and why are you having brake pads replaced.Coming back to foglamp, my dealer just put it down to bad design/triangular shape-nothing about bad luck,also I find it very useful to share info on this site and should be applauded for its existence

HondaRob · 9th January 2008, 15:37

Hi,

My first fog lamp cracked just before Christmas. The outside ambient temp was -5 to -6, excl wind chill.

The fog lamps had been used on one part of the journey, not shattered before the start (or return from the previous trip) but shattered when arriving home.

I am convinced this is a heat issue when the lamps are being used, but like many others, have paid for a replacement, thankfully not at the cost others have been quoted here. My dealer suggested it is 0.2 hours labour, so if others are quoting a full hour, challenge it.

R.

suelecca · 9th January 2008, 16:36

OK will do

suelecca · 9th January 2008, 16:40

Thanks for reply. Having brake pads renewed as were quite worn at last service (11,875 miles) and now at nearly 20,000 miles they are a bit noisy

Carl40 · 2nd February 2008, 18:45

Just been offered 10 pairs fogs for £400 with postage. I bought 2 pairs a while ago and don't need them (for now). I think it's an excellent deal, isn't it ?

Anyone interested, let me know. (They are not mine)

gray52 · 10th February 2008, 18:00

they sound to good to be true at that price.

Rumblefish · 11th February 2008, 13:40

All, I cant believe this, its so easy to put this down to a stone chip, and in fairness I'd have gone along with this until I read this forum, I too have had this happen with the same cracking pattern and never noticed a stone chip. This is all too much of a coincidence! I was quoted around the 120.00 mark for this job to be done, very annoying that I'm going to be out of pocket if indeed this is a design fault

gray52 · 11th February 2008, 23:23

why not get some fog light covers? £25 for a pair delivered. pm me if you are interested.

R GT · 11th February 2008, 23:29

That reminds me Gray thanks for the covers they look and fit a treat and should do the job nicely well happy and the wife never even noticed them.

webby · 12th February 2008, 06:13

Finally got around to fitting my covers.
You can hardly see them. Very nice.

civic_640.JPG

HondaRob · 12th February 2008, 12:37

Just had the opposite side smash, going to the stealer tomorrow to complain and try to get this under warranty - too much of a co-incidence to have the first one, then the second one, smash within weeks with no obvious impact.

R.

robbo51 · 12th February 2008, 13:05

Has anyone had their fog light smash WITH 'Gray52' covers on??

Foggy69 · 12th February 2008, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo51

Has anyone had their fog light smash WITH 'Gray52' covers on??

I haven't, and I don't remember seeing any other reports of breakages with the covers.

I hope Sod or Murphy aren't reading this

gray52 · 12th February 2008, 21:04

foggy, do you want a nice set of genuine reversing sensors? they are in vivid blue.

robbo51 · 12th February 2008, 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foggy69

I haven't, and I don't remember seeing any other reports of breakages with the covers.

I hope Sod or Murphy aren't reading this

I ask because someone posted that they thought the breakages might be heat related.
It does look like it isnt as you suspected

HondaRob · 13th February 2008, 09:57

Robbo,

I'm convinced this is heat related.

Rob.

robbo51 · 13th February 2008, 10:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by HondaRob

Robbo,

I'm convinced this is heat related.

Rob.

gray52 is not convinced.
No breakages reported after fitting his protectors

HondaRob · 13th February 2008, 10:18

might have something to do with heat dissipation when they are fitted.

mine definitely went due to heat yesterday.

keeping the fog lamp sealed (with the ideal hondarob fix of scissors and tape) for examination.

pcr · 13th February 2008, 10:51

Most of the pictures posted just don't look like stone damage to me, it would be helpful to see a picture of a broken foglight which is known to have been caused by a stone.

Just looking at the pictures, most look to me like vibration, resonance, or flexing shook them to bits, - all the heavy damage round the edges. It seems important that they are soft-mounted, not rigid in the bumper.

I guess a vandal's boot would cause that sort of damage, any glass on the ground ?.

Not sure about heat, I would have thought that foglights are mostly not used. Of course, if they break during the rare time they are in use, then yes.

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Rumblefish Valve Cap Join Date: 11th February 2008 Location: Lincoln,UK Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Drivers side Fog Light Smashed All, I cant believe this, its so easy to put this down to a stone chip, and in fairness I'd have gone along with this until I read this forum, I too have had this happen with the same cracking pattern and never noticed a stone chip. This is all too much of a coincidence! I was quoted around the 120.00 mark for this job to be done, very annoying that I'm going to be out of pocket if indeed this is a design fault

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9th January 2008, 12:37	#241 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,853 Thanks: 13 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts iTrader: (0)	So far I've been lucky and - I never use them anyway. It would be interesting to know how many of the shattered lenses are on cars that actually use the foglights (or not). That may bring a heat issue to light (not avoiding the pun)

9th January 2008, 15:37	#243 (permalink)
HondaRob Wheelnut Join Date: 4th May 2007 Location: Midlands Posts: 83 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi, My first fog lamp cracked just before Christmas. The outside ambient temp was -5 to -6, excl wind chill. The fog lamps had been used on one part of the journey, not shattered before the start (or return from the previous trip) but shattered when arriving home. I am convinced this is a heat issue when the lamps are being used, but like many others, have paid for a replacement, thankfully not at the cost others have been quoted here. My dealer suggested it is 0.2 hours labour, so if others are quoting a full hour, challenge it. R.

9th January 2008, 16:36	#244 (permalink)
suelecca Valve Cap Join Date: 29th December 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	OK will do

9th January 2008, 16:40	#245 (permalink)
suelecca Valve Cap Join Date: 29th December 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks for reply. Having brake pads renewed as were quite worn at last service (11,875 miles) and now at nearly 20,000 miles they are a bit noisy

2nd February 2008, 18:45	#246 (permalink)
Carl40 Valve Cap Join Date: 29th June 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just been offered 10 pairs fogs for £400 with postage. I bought 2 pairs a while ago and don't need them (for now). I think it's an excellent deal, isn't it ? Anyone interested, let me know. (They are not mine)

10th February 2008, 18:00	#247 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 937 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (1)	they sound to good to be true at that price.

11th February 2008, 23:23	#249 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 937 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (1)	why not get some fog light covers? £25 for a pair delivered. pm me if you are interested.

11th February 2008, 23:29	#250 (permalink)
R GT Type R 11239 Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 17th December 2007 Location: s yorks, uk Posts: 126 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	That reminds me Gray thanks for the covers they look and fit a treat and should do the job nicely well happy and the wife never even noticed them.

12th February 2008, 06:13	#251 (permalink)
webby Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 13th November 2007 Location: Switzerland Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Finally got around to fitting my covers. You can hardly see them. Very nice. civic_640.JPG

12th February 2008, 12:37	#252 (permalink)
HondaRob Wheelnut Join Date: 4th May 2007 Location: Midlands Posts: 83 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just had the opposite side smash, going to the stealer tomorrow to complain and try to get this under warranty - too much of a co-incidence to have the first one, then the second one, smash within weeks with no obvious impact. R.

12th February 2008, 13:05	#253 (permalink)
robbo51 It wasn’t me! Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 3,433 Thanks: 57 Thanked 54 Times in 51 Posts iTrader: (0)	Has anyone had their fog light smash WITH 'Gray52' covers on??

12th February 2008, 21:04	#255 (permalink)
gray52 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 23rd November 2006 Location: peterborough Posts: 937 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (1)	foggy, do you want a nice set of genuine reversing sensors? they are in vivid blue.

13th February 2008, 09:57	#257 (permalink)
HondaRob Wheelnut Join Date: 4th May 2007 Location: Midlands Posts: 83 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Robbo, I'm convinced this is heat related. Rob.

13th February 2008, 10:18	#259 (permalink)
HondaRob Wheelnut Join Date: 4th May 2007 Location: Midlands Posts: 83 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	might have something to do with heat dissipation when they are fitted. mine definitely went due to heat yesterday. keeping the fog lamp sealed (with the ideal hondarob fix of scissors and tape) for examination.

13th February 2008, 10:51	#260 (permalink)
pcr Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th September 2006 Location: Shropshire Posts: 848 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Most of the pictures posted just don't look like stone damage to me, it would be helpful to see a picture of a broken foglight which is known to have been caused by a stone. Just looking at the pictures, most look to me like vibration, resonance, or flexing shook them to bits, - all the heavy damage round the edges. It seems important that they are soft-mounted, not rigid in the bumper. I guess a vandal's boot would cause that sort of damage, any glass on the ground ?. Not sure about heat, I would have thought that foglights are mostly not used. Of course, if they break during the rare time they are in use, then yes.