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Old 26th September 2006, 17:03   #21 (permalink)
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There's not a chance it's not a design fault. There's too many now with EXACTLY the same cracking.
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Old 26th September 2006, 18:33   #22 (permalink)
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mine were round and recessed on an old shape megane (51 plate) and that got smashed three times, I gave up replacing it after a while, still got through the MOT's though, obviously didn't use them though, and the stork didn't work, company car, couldn't be bothered

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Old 26th September 2006, 21:29   #23 (permalink)
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Tried to check if all the broken fog lights are on a certain model e.g. diesel but could not tell from the post's. Could it be that it is only affecting a particular model?
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Quick Google search and this came up:
http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=94484

Interestingly this is a forum for American Honda owners.
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Ok, I noticed my drivers side fog light lense is cracked... I've also noticed that many other people on here have had the exact problem. I've done a search and found a bunch of different threads regarding this issue. I think if we all posted our issues into this one thread, we can use it to show Acura that the quality of the fog light lenses is an issue with many of their customers.
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uuuhh, just noticed I made it to magic rear seat status.

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Acura (アキュラ) is a brand name used by the Japanese car manufacturer Honda in the US, Canada and Hong Kong since March 1986 to market luxury automobiles and near-luxury vehicles. The brand was introduced to Mexico in 2004 and the Chinese market in 2006. It is also planned to extend Acura to the Japanese domestic market in 2008. With the Acura brand, Honda is credited with being the first to tap into a market for luxury Japanese cars outside Japan. Before Acura, automobiles from Japan were primarily economical and were seen as reliable above all else.

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Old 27th September 2006, 08:56   #25 (permalink)
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There's not a chance it's not a design fault. There's too many now with EXACTLY the same cracking.
I wonder if I can get my £166 back that it cost to replace mine I guess it is too late as I don't have the old one. I won't make that mistake again, as there was no evidence that a stone caused it and they are not really in a position where they are easily bumped into.
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so, any luck, anyone, trying to claim it on warranty? mine is broken too . i did not get to see the crack pattern. i did not notice it myself in the first place, the dealer pointed it to me when the car was in for service; after it has been serviced; so all the glass debris were already removed by the garage. i suppose there is no way now to prove whether it was or was not a stone damage. and claiming it on warranty, that will only be possible if honda does recognise that there is a design flaw, or is it? the dealer has ordered a new lamp for me, and it's going to cost 2400 dkk all together (divide by ten to get the price in pounds). meanwhile i am driving with some clear plastic fixed with silver tape ... told him i will wait with replacing the light for now... kinda hurts to give away the money originally intended for winter tires, for a stupid piece of plastic - which will possibly break again some time soon?..
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taa, welcome back! Hope all has been well with you. Very sorry to hear about the fog lights - I shall start a thread in a second so we can try to register how many have broken, and under what circumstances.

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Old 9th October 2006, 21:59   #28 (permalink)
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Member db9 has broken fogs, both sides - I have photographic evidence!!
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Thanks Pottsy, yes all is well... apart from that light... but i am still enjoying the car greatly. As for the light, even if it was stone damage... wouldn't one expect those lights to have to be more robust?.. ah well.
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Old 9th October 2006, 23:29   #30 (permalink)
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what kind of material are the fogs made of? palstic or galss???
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so, any luck, anyone, trying to claim it on warranty? mine is broken too . i did not get to see the crack pattern. i did not notice it myself in the first place, the dealer pointed it to me when the car was in for service; after it has been serviced; so all the glass debris were already removed by the garage. i suppose there is no way now to prove whether it was or was not a stone damage. and claiming it on warranty, that will only be possible if honda does recognise that there is a design flaw, or is it? the dealer has ordered a new lamp for me, and it's going to cost 2400 dkk all together (divide by ten to get the price in pounds). meanwhile i am driving with some clear plastic fixed with silver tape ... told him i will wait with replacing the light for now... kinda hurts to give away the money originally intended for winter tires, for a stupid piece of plastic - which will possibly break again some time soon?..
I am in the process of dealing with honda uk on this, will keep you posted IF anything comes, but if we dont get compensation the car is going, I am not paying out for this on a regular bassis.
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Old 10th October 2006, 13:20   #32 (permalink)
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If this is a design 'feature', perhaps some of that sticky stuff, that is used to protect your windows from car jackers could be used. I imaginge that if applied to the outside of the Fog lamp, then it would help prevent any damage from stones etc.

Gotta be better than £100 every few months.
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Old 10th October 2006, 14:23   #33 (permalink)
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If this is a design 'feature', perhaps some of that sticky stuff, that is used to protect your windows from car jackers could be used. I imaginge that if applied to the outside of the Fog lamp, then it would help prevent any damage from stones etc.

Gotta be better than £100 every few months.
I've already covered our new ones in clear plastic sticky back.
That wont stop cracking if there is a design fautlt though.
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Old 10th October 2006, 14:40   #34 (permalink)
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I've already covered our new ones in clear plastic sticky back.
That wont stop cracking if there is a design fautlt though.
Absolutely, but would help with any claim against Honda.
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I've already covered our new ones in clear plastic sticky back.
what is this clear plastic stuff? just any clear sticky tape, or something specifically designed for cars? how exactly is it called, so i can look it up at ebay?
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what is this clear plastic stuff? just any clear sticky tape, or something specifically designed for cars? how exactly is it called, so i can look it up at ebay?
Any do-it yourself shop will stock it.
a roll of clear plastic sheet ( paper backed) the backing is like a chess board 1" squares printed on it. very cheap £2.00 a roll if that.
Cut out the shape peal it off stick in place job done.
It has stayed on now for three weeks no probs
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what kind of material are the fogs made of? palstic or galss???
They are glass PTR. One good thing, although I can see a negative, is that the glass is actually bonded to a silicone type resin round the side of the light, so if it breaks it does not all fall out, the negative, the large piece left on mine rattled around and eventually was sticking out of the front of the car, at probably 45 degrees to where it should have been, if someone had walked past the car closely they could have damaged themselves, I guess the owner would be liable for that one. I fixed mine with brown parcel tape, looked well classy, like Jack Duckworths glasses (sorry UK reference).
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Stupid question, but does anyone posting on this thread use their foglights regularly? Are we seeing a problem with poor heat dispersion after they have been turned off?

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Stupid question, but does anyone posting on this thread use their foglights regularly? Are we seeing a problem with poor heat dispersion after they have been turned off?
Never actually used mine yet (which makes it all the more frustrating), so it can't be in my case
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Stupid question, but does anyone posting on this thread use their foglights regularly? Are we seeing a problem with poor heat dispersion after they have been turned off?
yes that's similar to what my brother has suggested... that if switched on when the car (and glass) is cold, and the lamp gives a lot of heat, then the glass might crack... but i also never used mine! well played with turning them on and off the first evening when i got the car 6 months ago, but then never again. and in any case, it should be something for which the manufacturer should have provided, the possible tepmerature gradients.
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