Bulbs Replacement sidelights - Page 3

damianscott71 · 2nd June 2008, 17:23

errr....

Standard Honda Supplied Sides. Too yellow
Philips Blue. Crap (not very white at all).
4 Way LED, too "dotty" and too white (made headlight look yellow)
9 way LED (front & side) from Ultra Bright Leds and Led products at bargain prices with super fast delivery - by Ultra Leds U.K (U5019W), too dotty and too white, but work ok in my g/f's Cooper S
Ultimate II 1w Ultra Xenon from Ultra Bright Leds and Led products at bargain prices with super fast delivery - by Ultra Leds U.K (U501WHP4W), great, but too white and too directional. Bloody bright though!
Then a few more random sets...
Then finally, bought 2 sets of PIAA bulbs from Demon Tweeks....
PIAA Platinum White
PIAA Extreme White
Can't quite remember which ones I fitted now. But they're a great match for the HID lamp. Will let you know later and will post a link to the right ones.

Damian

LFN · 21st June 2008, 13:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by damianscott71

Then finally, bought 2 sets of PIAA bulbs from Demon Tweeks....
PIAA Platinum White
PIAA Extreme White
Can't quite remember which ones I fitted now. But they're a great match for the HID lamp. Will let you know later and will post a link to the right ones.
Damian

Hi Damian. Have you checked if it´s the extreme or platinum bulbs you´ve mounted? They are NOT LED:s, right?

Anyone tried to change the H11 foglights to PIAA

PIAA Light - PIAA 4000K H11 X-treme White Plus Car Light Bulbs Light bulbs PIAA light - H11 X-treme White PLUS Car Light Bulbs 55W = 100W 4000K Twin Pack Car Light Bulbs
- or the H1

http://www.xtremewhite.com/ORD-Light...91-1-1-1-1.cfm

Any difference in whiteness?

damianscott71 · 7th July 2008, 23:00

Hi LFN,

No, they're not LED's. LED bulbs are too white and make the HID's look yellow. I just checked (this very moment) and I mounted the Xtreme bulbs. I think the Platinums looked yellow next to the HID's..... The Xtreme's aren't ultra bright, but the colour match is better than all the others that I tried.

As for the other bulbs, I can't comment.... PIAA bulbs are very expensive and don't last very long (I know from experience), I think that the quality and range of other manufacturers has been proven to be much better than PIAA when it comes to main/full beam headlight bulbs.

Osram Nightbreakers are good, but Philips X-Treme power were proven to be the best on the market by Auto Express Magazine's tests. I'd choose these over PIAA every time (apart from the side lights!)

LFN · 30th July 2008, 18:50

Hi again. I have bought theese sidelightbulbs from PIAA: PIAA Corporation USA - Wedge Bulb Xtreme White Plus and the white color is just like the xenons (HID) - BUT the light is incredible weak!

I had the Philips Blue Visions before, they were more yellowish but the lightning was much more stronger. With the PIAA:s Xtreme White it´s impossible to see the lights in daytime!

I also bought (but not yet mounted) the H11:s foglightbulbs: PIAA Corporation USA - H11 Xtreme White Plus and I´m worried that the power of the bulbs is as weak as the sideligth bulbs.

Maybe I will return them for LED:s H11 PIAA OFFICIAL SITE and the LED sidelights PIAA OFFICIAL SITE

Anyone tried the LED:s from PIAA? Any suggestions?

allan40alt · 30th July 2008, 19:10

See #37 in this thread. Why didn't you stick with the ones we've tested already?

I'd bin those.

501 Super Bright White from autobulbsdirect. You even get a Civinfo discount.

See here: 10% off at AutobulbsDirect - and list of common items for the Civic

LFN · 30th July 2008, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by allan40alt

See #37 in this thread. Why didn't you stick with the ones we've tested already?

I'd bin those.

501 Super Bright White from autobulbsdirect. You even get a Civinfo discount.

See here: 10% off at AutobulbsDirect - and list of common items for the Civic

I rememberd that someone here on the forum was saying that the whitetone on the 501 Super Bright Light was not like the xenons at all. But it was in another thread. Is the LED lights power more visible than the original sidelight?

allan40alt · 30th July 2008, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by LFN

I rememberd that someone here on the forum was saying that the whitetone on the 501 Super Bright Light was not like the xenons at all. But it was in another thread. Is the LED lights power more visible than the original sidelight?

Yes, definitely.

Here is the link: https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/pr...cat=612&page=1

PS: See here and don't forget to use your civinfo discount code:

10% off at AutobulbsDirect - and list of common items for the Civic

damianscott71 · 31st July 2008, 09:24

Hi LFN,

Sorry to hear that you don't like the PIAA bulbs. Sure, they're not as bright as other brands, but the colour is as close a match for the HID's as I've been able to find. I notice that you're located in Sweden.... Do you require that the sidelights are switched on during the daytime to act as running lights? It's not the case here in the UK. Sidelights should never be used independently of the headlight whilst driving, so if it's dark, we switch them on, and if it's light, we switch them off!

It bugs me when I see people driving with just their sidelights on, they think that because it's a little bit dark, then they need a little bit of light to be visible. Muppets!

If anybody is interested in really bright LED bulbs, you might want to look here.....

Ultra Bright Leds and Led products at bargain prices with super fast delivery - by Ultra Leds U.K

I bought these but thought they were too white and too bright...

The Ultimate II 501/T10/194 1 x 1 Watt Ultra Xenon White by Ultra Leds U.K

Am just going to buy some of these...... because they look interesing!

The Ultra Wide II 501/T10/194 6 x Smt Ultra Xenon White by Ultra Leds U.K

pansta · 31st July 2008, 10:36

I change my sidelights with 501 Super Bright White from autobulbsdirect. Looks great and realy white. Thanks forum for the Civinfo discount

LFN · 31st July 2008, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by damianscott71

I notice that you're located in Sweden.... Do you require that the sidelights are switched on during the daytime to act as running lights? It's not the case here in the UK.

The sidelights here in Sweden is automatically switched on, and is remaining ON whatever position you have on the switch! I think it´s a law on this in Sweden.

allan40alt · 31st July 2008, 11:41

autobulbsdirect will post to you in Sweden and note that the 501 Super Bright White Leds are only 1watt, even though the brightness is vastly superior to a standard bulb.

I would recommend them.

damianscott71 · 31st July 2008, 11:45

I've just ordered a set up upgraded 6000k HID bulbs from Autobulbsdirect. If we can't find sidelights to match the HID's, then let's see if we can find HID's to match LED sidelights!

LFN · 31st July 2008, 16:56

What is the colour temperature on the standard HID:s?

Autobulbs · 31st July 2008, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by LFN

What is the colour temperature on the standard HID:s?

HID which is fitted from new is rated at 4300K

LFN · 31st July 2008, 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autobulbs

HID which is fitted from new is rated at 4300K

Seems very odd, the Philips Blue Vision bulbs is rated at 4000K and they have a very yellow tone compared to the original HID:s. No chance that the Type R has another colour temperature on the HID:s?
Blue Vision link: a u t o l a m p s - o n l i n e

There is a Diamond Vision from Philips rated at 5000K. Maybe more like the original HID:s.
Diamond Vision link: a u t o l a m p s - o n l i n e

damianscott71 · 1st August 2008, 10:21

LFN, 4000k is more yellow than 4300k. 6000k is more blueish white.

The bulbs have arrived (the HID's from Autobulbs and the LED's from Ultraleds), now I'm just wondering about the big warning sticker on the back of the HID that says "do not remove this cover, risk of electrocution 20,000 volts!"

If anyone can give me a bit of informed moral support, I'll crack on with changing them sometime today if the weather holds up!

Autobulbs · 1st August 2008, 10:32

Unfortunately when putting halogen against true xenon you will see a colour difference even if the colour temp is supposed to be the same. This is due to them both being different lighting technologies.

With halogen bulbs a blue coating is put over the bulb to create a different colour to the light output where as Xenon bulbs use and arc of light. The arc vaporises the metal halide which produces light as the temperature and pressure increases. The light produced by an HID Xenon lighting system is greater than a standard halogen bulb and with less power consumption. On the road, HID Xenon lighting systems appear as a bright white beam which resembles natural daylight.

Autobulbs · 1st August 2008, 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by damianscott71

LFN, 4000k is more yellow than 4300k. 6000k is more blueish white.

The bulbs have arrived (the HID's from Autobulbs and the LED's from Ultraleds), now I'm just wondering about the big warning sticker on the back of the HID that says "do not remove this cover, risk of electrocution 20,000 volts!"

If anyone can give me a bit of informed moral support, I'll crack on with changing them sometime today if the weather holds up!

As long as the engine is off and has been allowed too cool for about half an hour you will have no problem changing the bulbs. The warning is just to alarm you and make you go back to the dealer where they will charge you a stupid amount to just change a bulb. Hope this helps

damianscott71 · 1st August 2008, 10:39

Ok, thanks for that. Looks like a "battery & coolant reservoir out" job to me.

Autobulbs · 1st August 2008, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by damianscott71

Ok, thanks for that. Looks like a "battery & coolant reservoir out" job to me.

They never make it easy do they lol

30th July 2008, 19:10	#45 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,245 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	See #37 in this thread. Why didn't you stick with the ones we've tested already? I'd bin those. 501 Super Bright White from autobulbsdirect. You even get a Civinfo discount. See here: 10% off at AutobulbsDirect - and list of common items for the Civic Last edited by allan40alt; 30th July 2008 at 19:13.

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damianscott71 Diesel Demon Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 1st July 2006 Location: Kempston, Bedfordshire Posts: 449 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	errr.... Standard Honda Supplied Sides. Too yellow Philips Blue. Crap (not very white at all). 4 Way LED, too "dotty" and too white (made headlight look yellow) 9 way LED (front & side) from Ultra Bright Leds and Led products at bargain prices with super fast delivery - by Ultra Leds U.K (U5019W), too dotty and too white, but work ok in my g/f's Cooper S Ultimate II 1w Ultra Xenon from Ultra Bright Leds and Led products at bargain prices with super fast delivery - by Ultra Leds U.K (U501WHP4W), great, but too white and too directional. Bloody bright though! Then a few more random sets... Then finally, bought 2 sets of PIAA bulbs from Demon Tweeks.... PIAA Platinum White PIAA Extreme White Can't quite remember which ones I fitted now. But they're a great match for the HID lamp. Will let you know later and will post a link to the right ones. Damian

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damianscott71 Diesel Demon Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 1st July 2006 Location: Kempston, Bedfordshire Posts: 449 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi LFN, No, they're not LED's. LED bulbs are too white and make the HID's look yellow. I just checked (this very moment) and I mounted the Xtreme bulbs. I think the Platinums looked yellow next to the HID's..... The Xtreme's aren't ultra bright, but the colour match is better than all the others that I tried. As for the other bulbs, I can't comment.... PIAA bulbs are very expensive and don't last very long (I know from experience), I think that the quality and range of other manufacturers has been proven to be much better than PIAA when it comes to main/full beam headlight bulbs. Osram Nightbreakers are good, but Philips X-Treme power were proven to be the best on the market by Auto Express Magazine's tests. I'd choose these over PIAA every time (apart from the side lights!)

30th July 2008, 18:50	#44 (permalink)
LFN Valve Cap Join Date: 24th August 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi again. I have bought theese sidelightbulbs from PIAA: PIAA Corporation USA - Wedge Bulb Xtreme White Plus and the white color is just like the xenons (HID) - BUT the light is incredible weak! I had the Philips Blue Visions before, they were more yellowish but the lightning was much more stronger. With the PIAA:s Xtreme White it´s impossible to see the lights in daytime! I also bought (but not yet mounted) the H11:s foglightbulbs: PIAA Corporation USA - H11 Xtreme White Plus and I´m worried that the power of the bulbs is as weak as the sideligth bulbs. Maybe I will return them for LED:s H11 PIAA OFFICIAL SITE and the LED sidelights PIAA OFFICIAL SITE Anyone tried the LED:s from PIAA? Any suggestions?

31st July 2008, 09:24	#48 (permalink)
damianscott71 Diesel Demon Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 1st July 2006 Location: Kempston, Bedfordshire Posts: 449 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi LFN, Sorry to hear that you don't like the PIAA bulbs. Sure, they're not as bright as other brands, but the colour is as close a match for the HID's as I've been able to find. I notice that you're located in Sweden.... Do you require that the sidelights are switched on during the daytime to act as running lights? It's not the case here in the UK. Sidelights should never be used independently of the headlight whilst driving, so if it's dark, we switch them on, and if it's light, we switch them off! It bugs me when I see people driving with just their sidelights on, they think that because it's a little bit dark, then they need a little bit of light to be visible. Muppets! If anybody is interested in really bright LED bulbs, you might want to look here..... Ultra Bright Leds and Led products at bargain prices with super fast delivery - by Ultra Leds U.K I bought these but thought they were too white and too bright... The Ultimate II 501/T10/194 1 x 1 Watt Ultra Xenon White by Ultra Leds U.K Am just going to buy some of these...... because they look interesing! The Ultra Wide II 501/T10/194 6 x Smt Ultra Xenon White by Ultra Leds U.K

31st July 2008, 10:36	#49 (permalink)
pansta Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 22nd February 2008 Location: athens, greece Posts: 107 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I change my sidelights with 501 Super Bright White from autobulbsdirect. Looks great and realy white. Thanks forum for the Civinfo discount

31st July 2008, 11:41	#51 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,245 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	autobulbsdirect will post to you in Sweden and note that the 501 Super Bright White Leds are only 1watt, even though the brightness is vastly superior to a standard bulb. I would recommend them.

31st July 2008, 11:45	#52 (permalink)
damianscott71 Diesel Demon Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 1st July 2006 Location: Kempston, Bedfordshire Posts: 449 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've just ordered a set up upgraded 6000k HID bulbs from Autobulbsdirect. If we can't find sidelights to match the HID's, then let's see if we can find HID's to match LED sidelights!

31st July 2008, 16:56	#53 (permalink)
LFN Valve Cap Join Date: 24th August 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	What is the colour temperature on the standard HID:s?

1st August 2008, 10:21	#56 (permalink)
damianscott71 Diesel Demon Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 1st July 2006 Location: Kempston, Bedfordshire Posts: 449 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	LFN, 4000k is more yellow than 4300k. 6000k is more blueish white. The bulbs have arrived (the HID's from Autobulbs and the LED's from Ultraleds), now I'm just wondering about the big warning sticker on the back of the HID that says "do not remove this cover, risk of electrocution 20,000 volts!" If anyone can give me a bit of informed moral support, I'll crack on with changing them sometime today if the weather holds up!

1st August 2008, 10:32	#57 (permalink)
Autobulbs Autobulbs Direct Valve Cap Join Date: 9th May 2008 Location: Southampton Posts: 43 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Unfortunately when putting halogen against true xenon you will see a colour difference even if the colour temp is supposed to be the same. This is due to them both being different lighting technologies. With halogen bulbs a blue coating is put over the bulb to create a different colour to the light output where as Xenon bulbs use and arc of light. The arc vaporises the metal halide which produces light as the temperature and pressure increases. The light produced by an HID Xenon lighting system is greater than a standard halogen bulb and with less power consumption. On the road, HID Xenon lighting systems appear as a bright white beam which resembles natural daylight.

1st August 2008, 10:39	#59 (permalink)
damianscott71 Diesel Demon Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 1st July 2006 Location: Kempston, Bedfordshire Posts: 449 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ok, thanks for that. Looks like a "battery & coolant reservoir out" job to me.