HID Have you got Xenon Lights?

civic-babe · 24th August 2006, 13:43

Hi,

I actually wondered who had Xenon Lights fitted to their Civic? Are they really that much better then ordinary lights?

I had the option when I ordered my Civic at an extra cost of 750 Euros (about 500£), and thought I won't bother.

Bungle · 24th August 2006, 13:53

My ES hasn't got them. I don't know why the ES hasn't, the sport (below) and the EX(above) both have xenon lights. I don't know why it missed the ES! To be honest, I must have misread the specs, becasue until I picked the car up, I thought the ES did come with the lights.
I am happy with the lights I have got, looks ok from front when on, and is perfectly adequate for lighting the way. Not that i don't prefer the xenons, but I'm satisfied with halogens.

richierich · 24th August 2006, 13:55

Got mine as standard on the EX, but to be honest I would have paid extra for them, maybe not that much, its a far nicer light they give off, my Laguna had them, but the Golf I had didn't. I was not keen about the yellowy tint on the Golf. Which reminds me I need to replace the main beam lights with the blue Phillips or Osram, the yellow glow next to the Xenon is pants.

allan40alt · 24th August 2006, 13:55

HID are fitted as standard on the Sport and EX. They give better illumination to the kerbs and road signs and have a brighter, whiter light. They claim to give around 30% better range but this would only be noticeable on dark roads where they would be excellent. For general town driving I haven't found much difference although other people may see me better. They give good range on unlit motorways and would pick out a straying animal at a greater distance.

civic-babe · 24th August 2006, 14:11

I was told by my car dealer I could always have them fitted at a later date if I wanted, not sure if I will, as I read up that those Xenon Lights are a cold light.

As I live and work in Bavaria, and we do get a lot of snow here during the winter, I thought a cold (Xenon)light is not much good to me. As the snow doesn't clear of as it does with Halogen lights.

Secondly 500£ is a lot of money, and I get for that much money a lot of accessories which I already ordered

richierich · 24th August 2006, 14:14

I do not think they are a cold light, I am sure I have seen the residue left from headlamp washers steaming when playing with them.

civic-babe · 24th August 2006, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by richierich

I do not think they are a cold light, I am sure I have seen the residue left from headlamp washers steaming when playing with them.

Hmm.. I do not know, as I said I only read up about them. Best bit a suppose is to try test it...

richierich · 24th August 2006, 14:27

Just tried it, the lens does get warm, that was after 2 minutes or so, I guess in the winter when the outside is cooler the effect might be more noticeable.

civic-babe · 24th August 2006, 14:31

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Originally Posted by richierich

Just tried it, the lens does get warm, that was after 2 minutes or so, I guess in the winter when the outside is cooler the effect might be more noticeable.

Great, thanks for trying that. You see when it is freezing over here and snowing at the same time I wonder if it does clear the snow as quickly or effienctly as the halogen lights. Well if the weather carrys on like that, I soon find out

Newboy · 24th August 2006, 15:02

civic-babe

not sure what the rules are in germany but in the UK I would guess it would be quite expensive to retro fit the HID/Xenon lights as by law in the UK you need headlight washers (which you only get as standard on the EX and Sport in the UK) plus automatic headlamp height control (which I have read somewhere entails attaching some sensors to one/some of the axles or something). Rules may well be different in germany, what with us all being in the EU.

civic-babe · 24th August 2006, 15:13

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Originally Posted by Newboy

civic-babe

not sure what the rules are in germany but in the UK I would guess it would be quite expensive to retro fit the HID/Xenon lights as by law in the UK you need headlight washers (which you only get as standard on the EX and Sport in the UK) plus automatic headlamp height control (which I have read somewhere entails attaching some sensors to one/some of the axles or something). Rules may well be different in germany, what with us all being in the EU.

Ohh nooooo

you could be right about that, but I'm not 100% sure.
I think I do remember that they got to have the headlight washers.
And to be honest I'm just glad I got the car, who cares what lights I have, as long as I can see at nights

civic-babe · 24th August 2006, 15:14

@ Newboy

Greetings to Surrey, I used to live in Hants, Basingstoke to be exact...

Newboy · 24th August 2006, 19:04

... and greetings to Germany. Have been a few times mainly on car related adventures. Years ago a friend of mine was looking for a BMW M3 (the original) and we flew into Munich (because it was a cheap) and drove to Frankfurt !! Not very clever but a good chance to blast down the autobahns in our rental BMW 3 series. I then bought a Porsche 911 (993) Carrera 4 a couple of years back from a Porsche dealer just south of Munich and drove it back to the UK stopping in Dusseldorf for a night and then most recently my friend (the same one who now lives in Geneva) and I went to Stuttgart to visit the Porsche Musuem (not that great).

Hartside · 24th August 2006, 19:26

Got them on my EX and it's the first car I've had with them fitted. They certainly are good on dark country roads. The lights give off a blue/white light when iluminated and when you go on main beam, because of the mains being halogen, there's a yellowing effect. I can remember thinking when halogen first started to get popular years ago, how white they were in comparison to the tungsten filament bulbs. How things move on.......

I was in Munich last Wednesday civic-babe, in Solln. I'm trying to ensure I get a visit back down there for the Oktoberfest!

Copycat · 25th August 2006, 05:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by civic-babe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newboy

civic-babe

not sure what the rules are in germany but in the UK I would guess it would be quite expensive to retro fit the HID/Xenon lights as by law in the UK you need headlight washers (which you only get as standard on the EX and Sport in the UK) plus automatic headlamp height control (which I have read somewhere entails attaching some sensors to one/some of the axles or something). Rules may well be different in germany, what with us all being in the EU.

Ohh nooooo

you could be right about that, but I'm not 100% sure.
I think I do remember that they got to have the headlight washers.
And to be honest I'm just glad I got the car, who cares what lights I have, as long as I can see at nights

I have headligt washers on my Sport. No Xenons but headlight washers. Are you sure you don't?

civic-babe · 25th August 2006, 08:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newboy

... and greetings to Germany. Have been a few times mainly on car related adventures. Years ago a friend of mine was looking for a BMW M3 (the original) and we flew into Munich (because it was a cheap) and drove to Frankfurt !! Not very clever but a good chance to blast down the autobahns in our rental BMW 3 series. I then bought a Porsche 911 (993) Carrera 4 a couple of years back from a Porsche dealer just south of Munich and drove it back to the UK stopping in Dusseldorf for a night and then most recently my friend (the same one who now lives in Geneva) and I went to Stuttgart to visit the Porsche Musuem (not that great).

Must say I never been to the Porsche Museum, mind you I LOVE Porsche, couldn't talk my hubby into buying me a Porsche Poxter ( I wonder why

)

Driving from Munich to Frankfurt up the A3 is a nightmare, a suppose the same as the M25 or M4..

Duesseldorf is great, I love that city, great for shopping

. We are thinking of moving up near Duesseldorf, realy expensive living there. Moenchengladbach is almost as nice and much cheaper.

The good old Autobahns in Germany aren't what they used to be, much more speed restrictions now

.

civic-babe · 25th August 2006, 08:08

Got them on my EX and it's the first car I've had with them fitted. They certainly are good on dark country roads. The lights give off a blue/white light when iluminated and when you go on main beam, because of the mains being halogen, there's a yellowing effect. I can remember thinking when halogen first started to get popular years ago, how white they were in comparison to the tungsten filament bulbs. How things move on.......

I was in Munich last Wednesday civic-babe, in Solln. I'm trying to ensure I get a visit back down there for the Oktoberfest![/quote]

Lucky you going for the Oktoberfest, been since I'm back in Germany every year and just luv it. hmm I do not know Solln, but then again I was born breed in Nordrhine Westfalica (Dortmund), so I do not know my way around Bavaria very well (let me say thank you to my Sat Nav.. :P )

I think one of my mates has halogen lights, I ask him if he gives me a test drive to see the diffrence.

civic-babe · 25th August 2006, 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copycat

Quote:

Originally Posted by civic-babe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newboy

civic-babe

not sure what the rules are in germany but in the UK I would guess it would be quite expensive to retro fit the HID/Xenon lights as by law in the UK you need headlight washers (which you only get as standard on the EX and Sport in the UK) plus automatic headlamp height control (which I have read somewhere entails attaching some sensors to one/some of the axles or something). Rules may well be different in germany, what with us all being in the EU.

Ohh nooooo

you could be right about that, but I'm not 100% sure.
I think I do remember that they got to have the headlight washers.
And to be honest I'm just glad I got the car, who cares what lights I have, as long as I can see at nights

I have headligt washers on my Sport. No Xenons but headlight washers. Are you sure you don't?

I'm not sure about anything anymore

The Great Soprendo · 25th August 2006, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by civic-babe

I was told by my car dealer I could always have them fitted at a later date if I wanted, not sure if I will, as I read up that those Xenon Lights are a cold light.

As I live and work in Bavaria, and we do get a lot of snow here during the winter, I thought a cold (Xenon)light is not much good to me. As the snow doesn't clear of as it does with Halogen lights.

Secondly 500£ is a lot of money, and I get for that much money a lot of accessories which I already ordered

I suspect the meaning of what you read was related to the colour temperature, rather than the physical temperature...xenon lights are further along the blue (cold) end of the spectrum compared to traditional halogen light.

See here for explanation of colour temperature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature

A similar comparison would be that between domestic lights: compare the colour given off by a flourescent tube with a tungsten bulb.

civic-babe · 25th August 2006, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Great Soprendo

Quote:

Originally Posted by civic-babe

I was told by my car dealer I could always have them fitted at a later date if I wanted, not sure if I will, as I read up that those Xenon Lights are a cold light.

As I live and work in Bavaria, and we do get a lot of snow here during the winter, I thought a cold (Xenon)light is not much good to me. As the snow doesn't clear of as it does with Halogen lights.

Secondly 500£ is a lot of money, and I get for that much money a lot of accessories which I already ordered

I suspect the meaning of what you read was related to the colour temperature, rather than the physical temperature...xenon lights are further along the blue (cold) end of the spectrum compared to traditional halogen light.

See here for explanation of colour temperature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature

A similar comparison would be that between domestic lights: compare the colour given off by a flourescent tube with a tungsten bulb.

Yes.. Thinking back you are right on this one, but surely when I did ask the Dealer he should have know this information you just given me. I did say that I was a bit put of them as I was worried while in heavy snowy conditions. He did mentioned the headlightwashers, yes of course they wipe the snow and ****** bits off. But to be honest I wasn't gonna get myself pushed into something I did not have a clue about, so I thought I better leave it. At the end of the day it saved me 500£.

But as many people before me, ordinary headlights can't be that bad, and let me say one thing, after my ****** Ford Fa the lights on the Civic are brilliant, great, fantastic and I should be happy with what I got.

I was curious on the xenon lights, whether it was better getting them or not I think I shall find out soon enough..

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Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My ES hasn't got them. I don't know why the ES hasn't, the sport (below) and the EX(above) both have xenon lights. I don't know why it missed the ES! To be honest, I must have misread the specs, becasue until I picked the car up, I thought the ES did come with the lights. I am happy with the lights I have got, looks ok from front when on, and is perfectly adequate for lighting the way. Not that i don't prefer the xenons, but I'm satisfied with halogens.

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richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Got mine as standard on the EX, but to be honest I would have paid extra for them, maybe not that much, its a far nicer light they give off, my Laguna had them, but the Golf I had didn't. I was not keen about the yellowy tint on the Golf. Which reminds me I need to replace the main beam lights with the blue Phillips or Osram, the yellow glow next to the Xenon is pants.

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allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,227 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts	HID are fitted as standard on the Sport and EX. They give better illumination to the kerbs and road signs and have a brighter, whiter light. They claim to give around 30% better range but this would only be noticeable on dark roads where they would be excellent. For general town driving I haven't found much difference although other people may see me better. They give good range on unlit motorways and would pick out a straying animal at a greater distance.

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civic-babe Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 23rd August 2006 Location: Moosburg a. d. Isar Germany Posts: 398 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I was told by my car dealer I could always have them fitted at a later date if I wanted, not sure if I will, as I read up that those Xenon Lights are a cold light. As I live and work in Bavaria, and we do get a lot of snow here during the winter, I thought a cold (Xenon)light is not much good to me. As the snow doesn't clear of as it does with Halogen lights. Secondly 500£ is a lot of money, and I get for that much money a lot of accessories which I already ordered

24th August 2006, 14:14	#6 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I do not think they are a cold light, I am sure I have seen the residue left from headlamp washers steaming when playing with them.

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richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just tried it, the lens does get warm, that was after 2 minutes or so, I guess in the winter when the outside is cooler the effect might be more noticeable.

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Newboy Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 27th July 2006 Location: NE Surrey, UK Posts: 277 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	civic-babe not sure what the rules are in germany but in the UK I would guess it would be quite expensive to retro fit the HID/Xenon lights as by law in the UK you need headlight washers (which you only get as standard on the EX and Sport in the UK) plus automatic headlamp height control (which I have read somewhere entails attaching some sensors to one/some of the axles or something). Rules may well be different in germany, what with us all being in the EU.

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civic-babe Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 23rd August 2006 Location: Moosburg a. d. Isar Germany Posts: 398 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	@ Newboy Greetings to Surrey, I used to live in Hants, Basingstoke to be exact...

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Newboy Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 27th July 2006 Location: NE Surrey, UK Posts: 277 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	... and greetings to Germany. Have been a few times mainly on car related adventures. Years ago a friend of mine was looking for a BMW M3 (the original) and we flew into Munich (because it was a cheap) and drove to Frankfurt !! Not very clever but a good chance to blast down the autobahns in our rental BMW 3 series. I then bought a Porsche 911 (993) Carrera 4 a couple of years back from a Porsche dealer just south of Munich and drove it back to the UK stopping in Dusseldorf for a night and then most recently my friend (the same one who now lives in Geneva) and I went to Stuttgart to visit the Porsche Musuem (not that great).

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Hartside Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Northumberland Posts: 557 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Got them on my EX and it's the first car I've had with them fitted. They certainly are good on dark country roads. The lights give off a blue/white light when iluminated and when you go on main beam, because of the mains being halogen, there's a yellowing effect. I can remember thinking when halogen first started to get popular years ago, how white they were in comparison to the tungsten filament bulbs. How things move on....... I was in Munich last Wednesday civic-babe, in Solln. I'm trying to ensure I get a visit back down there for the Oktoberfest!

25th August 2006, 08:08	#17 (permalink)
civic-babe Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 23rd August 2006 Location: Moosburg a. d. Isar Germany Posts: 398 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Got them on my EX and it's the first car I've had with them fitted. They certainly are good on dark country roads. The lights give off a blue/white light when iluminated and when you go on main beam, because of the mains being halogen, there's a yellowing effect. I can remember thinking when halogen first started to get popular years ago, how white they were in comparison to the tungsten filament bulbs. How things move on....... I was in Munich last Wednesday civic-babe, in Solln. I'm trying to ensure I get a visit back down there for the Oktoberfest![/quote] Lucky you going for the Oktoberfest, been since I'm back in Germany every year and just luv it. hmm I do not know Solln, but then again I was born breed in Nordrhine Westfalica (Dortmund), so I do not know my way around Bavaria very well (let me say thank you to my Sat Nav.. :P ) I think one of my mates has halogen lights, I ask him if he gives me a test drive to see the diffrence.