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post #1 of 1337 (permalink) Old 28th April 2016, 09:51 Thread Starter
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musegroove's FN2 - 250bhp NA Build

Wasn't going to make a thread as I wasn't planning on modding past just the induction kit but got bit by the Civinfo bug and Loxy's old Silver FN2 build thread.

Previously had a NHB 2.2 civic, remapped it was a rocket but after racing a couple of FN2s it was far too heavy round the corners and ended up selling for a Milano Red FN2.

I'm planning on keeping NA, I could whip a SC kit in but feel it would take away the whole reason why I love owning Hondas (on my 4th).

Current Mods:
- Gruppe M Intake
- Tegiwa Header
- Tegiwa Sports Cat
- Milltek 2.5" Non-Res
- Eibach 15mm Springs
- FRS From Grinspeed
- Full Set Of Goodyear AS3s
- MTEC Grooved Discs
- Ferodo DS2500 All Round
- HEL Braided Brake Lines + RBF 660
- "Skunk2" Gear Knob - proper weight but turned out to be a copy
- Pumpkin Double Din
- MrBozo Folding Mirror Module
- Flashpro Group N

Planned Future Mods:
- Throttle Body - J35?
- RRC Inlet Manifold + Hondata Gasket
- TDi Stage 1 Cams
- FD2 Shaft Delete Kit
- TDi / Teg Short Shifter

Currently waiting for end of May to get it on TDi's rollers. Will post up gains and hopefully a chart then too.
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Excellent, the car is a credit to you.

It's odd how the moddin' bug takes hold, many of us didn't start out intending to make any/many changes...

Will look forward to seeing how the car develops.
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"Won't be modding"

I said something similar.

Very nice mate.
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Very nice car mate, looking forward to seeing what goes on 👍🏻
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Cheers for the comments, I'll be sure to get it cleaned and get some pics up once the weather gets better.

Painted the calipers but got brake dust all over them before they fully dried, only need a quick touch up on a couple of bits

Wondering if I can hit 220bhp on the dyno? Not chasing figures as the butt dyno is always the better judge but would be nice.
Considering it's running terrible at the moment, the unlocked mid range torque still puts a smile on my face
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Has it been mapped?

Sure at TDI with current mods u would get up to 230 when mapped.

Without mapping not sure on group n plus mods.

Do you have engine mount inserts to reduce engine moving and maybe cracking manifold long term?
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PS nice car and i like the dark OEM wheels.
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Has it been mapped?

Sure at TDI with current mods u would get up to 230 when mapped.

Without mapping not sure on group n plus mods.

Do you have engine mount inserts to reduce engine moving and maybe cracking manifold long term?
Just got the group n map on until end of May as TDi has a nice backlog.
Paul said it will run OK until then just take it easy.

Just waiting for Grinspeed to get back to me with a price for the mounts unless anyone knows the usual cost of fitting?

The only issue I have with the car really is the clutch, it's very Jekyll and Hyde. Most days it's OK but others it's really harsh on engagement almost like you're dumping the clutch but obviously I'm not. If you engage the clutch at the optimal revs for the gear it has a hissy fit.

Grinspeed fitted a new clutch but didn't do the flywheel as it looked OK, had a garage flush the clutch fluid but it still looks dark and murky so thinking I might just do it myself and see how it goes.

Any ideas? Failing that I will ask Stevie when it's back up there.
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Got a good price off Stevie for the mounts and been offered a FD2 TB for £110.

Anyone know if this is a good TB for the price? Heard it's the best for a daily driver as it keeps driveability and fits an RRC with no messing about. Heard J37 had some idling issues.

For an FD2 will I need a replacement hose between Gruppe M and TB?
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Funny most of the people that join this site say i'm not going to mod...

Great list of mods so farm with some nice ones to come!
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Thought I'd say thanks to Hygrade Motor Spares in Manchester

Had a few civics for breaking including an FN2 and got a few bits for a great price.

Cruise control switch was goosed and got a spare bonnet insulation and weather strip for the Gruppe M so I don't cut up my own.

Sports cat is fully welded in and fitted and the car is now running MUCH better. Actually sounds better than decat was as Milltek resonated at just the right tone to make your ears bleed! Has that perfect race tone now with the header.

Just TDi left now. Scoping for a cheap RRC for grinspeed to fit before the remap along with the FD2 TB then cams and oil pump next year after my wallet recovers
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Just seen this. Subscribed.

Looking forward to seeing the progress you make!
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Looking forward to seeing the progress you make!
Cheers Spent many hours browsing your extensive build threads.

Would you recommend TDi DICs still? Think they'll be the end goal along with the FD2 oil pump.
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Definitely. They're the best gains I've seen on DICs.
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I bought the FD2 TB that was on the facebook page.

Turned out to just be an OEM one -.-
Got a decent RRC manifold with it so hopefully getting my cash back for the TB later.

Will be selling the RRC if I don't find a FD2 TB before TDi remap and just do it all next year with the cams.
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Rrc will be fine with oem TB when you get the fd2 one just get the map tweaked if needed also due to the oem one being smaller you won't get a bottle neck so it'll be fine
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Looking good. Whereabouts in manchester are you ? Might see you around
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Looking good. Whereabouts in manchester are you ? Might see you around
I'm around the Trafford Centre area

Decided RRC & TB are for next year along with the cams as I found an insurer that covers all the mods for less than £600.

Halfway through my policy so rather not cancel now.

Also found out where the fuel cut off switch is the hard way after banging the panel back in place once I replaced my broken CC switch... fun times at 11pm in my work car park!

Had the engine bay stripped looking for the cause lit up by my blue light saber keyring
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Doh, that pesky cut off switch strikes again.
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