Use of grammar - split posts

Parky · 31st December 2006, 09:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by IWANTACIVIC

yer would love to know what they say , have they got anything up there sleave for the sat nav ? be nice to get a poi update maybe evenn safty cams on there

, we await you post rich rob

I presume you meant :-

"Yes I would love to know what they say. Have they got anything up there sleeve for the Sat Nav? It would be nice to get a POI update maybe even safety cameras on there. We await your post Rich, Rob"

Bog · 31st December 2006, 13:16

Unbelievable!

Parky, you knew exactly what IWANTACIVIC meant! You just thought you'd be clever! I hate it when people like you comment on others people’s grammar and spelling, all it does it put people off from posting. If you think forums are a about demonstrating your language skills, I really think you are missing the point! This is a great forum with lots of information and views for EVERYBODY!

At least he got RichRobs’ name right!

RichRob · 31st December 2006, 13:42

I comletely agree this is not about belittling people but about a group exchanging info.

czechplastik · 31st December 2006, 14:15

Handbags away chaps...

Parky · 1st January 2007, 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichRob

I comletely agree this is not about belittling people but about a group exchanging info.

I agree, but you have to be able to read what has been posted and sometimes it is not very easy from some posters.

As we are supposed to be of driving age here I just thought we might be able to use language that everyone can understand without having to decode slang, work out what words mean and where sentences start and end.

To me the style and tone used is lazy and disrespectful, an opinion I think I am entitled to. We all make mistakes when we type, but what is hard about reading what you are going to post and correct the really obvious errors.

The post I pointed out was one of the better one's others can take 2 or 3 reads before you understand what is being written.

I'm more than happy to not post here again if that is what people want.

Personally I don't see an issue with trying to improve the level of English (or other language) used here.

Maybe I'm just too old ! I don't want to speak in 'txt' talk or have to try to decipher it.

IWANTACIVIC · 1st January 2007, 02:28

im sorry parky you could not read my post.

Pottsy · 1st January 2007, 09:45

As everyone knows, one of the rules here is "no txt spk". Sometimes though, some posters genuinely find it more difficult to write perfect English than others, for reasons that may not be apparent to the reader.

IWANT has apologised, and you don't see that very often when this type of thread appears on forums - so the thread has not been binned, but is still open for polite discussion!

beepee · 1st January 2007, 10:46

I'm with Parky all the way on this. I guess it is an age thing but, at the very least,surely it can't be that difficult to start each sentence with a capital letter?

Dawson · 1st January 2007, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

As everyone knows, one of the rules here is "no txt spk". Sometimes though, some posters genuinely find it more difficult to write perfect English than others, for reasons that may not be apparent to the reader.

IWANT has apologised, and you don't see that very often when this type of thread appears on forums - so the thread has not been binned, but is still open for polite discussion!

I think Pottsy has it spot on. As long as people try to post comprehensible english it's good enough for me. This does appear to be a very grown up forum full of more mature members, which is a enjoyable change from normal car forums. The benefits of this are great - useful information, well structured posts, discussion that's enjoyable and easy to read and no boasts about how many people members have wasted in their blingin' cars complete with neons, which have been insured in their parents names.

As mentioned, some people have genuine difficulty in doing this, whether this be due to dyslexia, lack of time, perhaps their english skills aren't that great or it may just be down to the fact that they don't write much these days, even things like a lack of keyboard/computer skills is enough to make the poster write in txt speak or use too many appreviations. On the other hand, they may just be lazy.

Taking my own posts for example. I try to write in sentences and use a little structure in what I post, but I know I'm terrible at languages, suck at spelling and don't even understand what grammer is. This isn't helped by the fact I'm a Programmer by day. As I don't type or write perfect English all day long, I'm pretty sure my language skills have went downhill over the last few years and for that I apologise. Now, who wants to pick out the spelling mistakes?

Andrea · 1st January 2007, 11:37

It is a fair point that is being made here BUT i really think that it could have been highlighted alot better.

Parky, you didnt know when you posted the first post if the person you were refering to had dyslexia or anything like that, i just think you could have bought this issue to attention without targeting one member.
(did i spell anything wrong? sorry didnt have time to copy and paste into word to make sure its perfect

)

elfa7 · 1st January 2007, 11:45

I'm not including people with dyslexia, but there is 'Spell Checker', for the rest of us.

Pottsy · 1st January 2007, 12:11

Or just use Firefox, which checks your spelling as you go along:

spelling.gif

Willie · 1st January 2007, 12:35

I am relatively new to forums, in fact, this is the first I have ever posted on. One of the things that has impressed me about this one is that I can understand what people mean, unlike some forums I’ve visited. I hope people are not put off posting just because they have difficulty with English grammar!

elfa7 · 1st January 2007, 13:03

An even better solution.

Topcat · 1st January 2007, 14:46

First you can not moan and now you have to be perfect at typing, grammer and spelling!!

What next?

allan40alt · 1st January 2007, 15:01

Spelling checker for forum replies II.

taklnig of splleing!

czechplastik · 1st January 2007, 15:07

Parky, you make a good point about posting being legible and easily understood but there was no need to make it personal. Hopefully his issue has been resolved now.

allan40alt · 1st January 2007, 15:11

Yes, just be grateful that this site is in English and not Japanese else we would all have problems!

czechplastik · 1st January 2007, 15:12

Or wingdings!

elfa7 · 1st January 2007, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by allan40alt

Yes, just be grateful that this site is in English and not Japanese else we would all have problems!

I thought it was, sometimes !!

31st December 2006, 13:16	#2 (permalink)
Bog Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th October 2006 Location: Romford, Essex Posts: 886 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Unbelievable! Parky, you knew exactly what IWANTACIVIC meant! You just thought you'd be clever! I hate it when people like you comment on others people’s grammar and spelling, all it does it put people off from posting. If you think forums are a about demonstrating your language skills, I really think you are missing the point! This is a great forum with lots of information and views for EVERYBODY! At least he got RichRobs’ name right! Last edited by Bog; 31st December 2006 at 13:22.

1st January 2007, 11:37	#10 (permalink)
Andrea Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 22nd July 2006 Location: Lynemouth, Northumberland Posts: 421 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It is a fair point that is being made here BUT i really think that it could have been highlighted alot better. Parky, you didnt know when you posted the first post if the person you were refering to had dyslexia or anything like that, i just think you could have bought this issue to attention without targeting one member. (did i spell anything wrong? sorry didnt have time to copy and paste into word to make sure its perfect ) Last edited by Andrea; 1st January 2007 at 11:38. Reason: Spelling!!!!!!

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This thread is about: Use of grammar - split posts, it's in Site suggestions, feedback and rules at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Originally Posted by IWANTACIVIC yer would love to know what they say , have they got anything up there sleave for the sat nav ? ...

31st December 2006, 13:42	#3 (permalink)
RichRob Valve Cap Join Date: 26th December 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I comletely agree this is not about belittling people but about a group exchanging info.

31st December 2006, 14:15	#4 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Handbags away chaps...

1st January 2007, 02:28	#6 (permalink)
IWANTACIVIC Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th September 2006 Location: LINCS UK Posts: 658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	im sorry parky you could not read my post.

1st January 2007, 09:45	#7 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 4,772 Thanks: 7 Thanked 64 Times in 33 Posts	As everyone knows, one of the rules here is "no txt spk". Sometimes though, some posters genuinely find it more difficult to write perfect English than others, for reasons that may not be apparent to the reader. IWANT has apologised, and you don't see that very often when this type of thread appears on forums - so the thread has not been binned, but is still open for polite discussion!

1st January 2007, 10:46	#8 (permalink)
beepee Wheelnut Join Date: 1st December 2006 Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm with Parky all the way on this. I guess it is an age thing but, at the very least,surely it can't be that difficult to start each sentence with a capital letter?

1st January 2007, 11:45	#11 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm not including people with dyslexia, but there is 'Spell Checker', for the rest of us.

1st January 2007, 12:11	#12 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 4,772 Thanks: 7 Thanked 64 Times in 33 Posts	Or just use Firefox, which checks your spelling as you go along: spelling.gif

1st January 2007, 12:35	#13 (permalink)
Willie Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd December 2006 Location: Renfrewshire Posts: 138 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am relatively new to forums, in fact, this is the first I have ever posted on. One of the things that has impressed me about this one is that I can understand what people mean, unlike some forums I’ve visited. I hope people are not put off posting just because they have difficulty with English grammar!

1st January 2007, 13:03	#14 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	An even better solution.

1st January 2007, 14:46	#15 (permalink)
Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,739 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	First you can not moan and now you have to be perfect at typing, grammer and spelling!! What next?

1st January 2007, 15:01	#16 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,142 Thanks: 6 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Spelling checker for forum replies II. taklnig of splleing!

1st January 2007, 15:07	#17 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Parky, you make a good point about posting being legible and easily understood but there was no need to make it personal. Hopefully his issue has been resolved now.

1st January 2007, 15:11	#18 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,142 Thanks: 6 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Yes, just be grateful that this site is in English and not Japanese else we would all have problems!

1st January 2007, 15:12	#19 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,493 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Or wingdings!