new perspex grill

orel · 8th March 2009, 07:36

hello lads and gents.
I have an honda civic 09 5d 1.8 auto.
Im in love with the old perspex grill and I want to fit one on my ride, but I understand that the auto gear have to have entarnce of airo in the grill... so I could fit one or not?
or just a type s one?

robbo51 · 8th March 2009, 08:28

You pose an interesting question there orel..Simple answer, if nobody else knows, is ask your dealer.
If it was me, I'd fit a Type S or Type R Grill...I prefer the look
(BTW..I like the new perspex grill)

hurricane · 8th March 2009, 09:33

I'll swap you my Perspex grill for your new model grill. It is in perfect shape.

orel · 10th March 2009, 21:08

before I buy the old perspex grill I need to know if it wont harm my spaceship

. The dealer said to me that the type r grill and the old perspex grill dont fit the car . He dont want to deal with it so I came to you . hope you can help me out.

robbo51 · 10th March 2009, 21:10

As far as I know..It DOES fit..but is it Ok to fit with an Autobox?.....Pass

endepende · 10th March 2009, 21:15

If the New TypeS grill 09' fits the previous models i think the new 09' grill fits it too, would be neccessary to see the brackets of new one, if they are the same as TypeS 09' grill, it will fit any model i think

robbo51 · 10th March 2009, 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by endepende

If the New TypeS grill 09' fits the previous models i think the new 09' grill fits it too, would be neccessary to see the brackets of new one, if they are the same as TypeS 09' grill, it will fit any model i think

Yes. You are correct

Brodick · 10th March 2009, 22:36

The old Perspex grill will not work with the auto gearbox
the reason for the new style grill is to give better airflow to keep
the auto box happy. If you change the grill and have issues ie with the engine and gearbox overheating I would think Honda will not want to know.

One of the dealers may like to confirm or disagree with this.

orel · 10th March 2009, 22:44

so i think to go for the type s grill or the type r one's...

Wheelchair · 10th March 2009, 22:55

The new 'S' grill is quite smart.

Orschild · 10th March 2009, 23:24

Yes it is, and the price I saw at my Honda dealer isn't too bad either. I think I will be getting that one

docholiday · 10th March 2009, 23:47

As far as I know, the Type-S-grill has a closed backside, just like the old perspex one. And surprise: I have the new 1.8 manual, and as far as i can see, the "pignose" grill also is closed on the backside!? So maybe the auto-model grill is still different with an open backside, like the type-r one?
So maybe the best option for extra cooling would be the type-r grill...

Confusing, eh?

gadgetman68 · 10th March 2009, 23:59

confused ........ yes! I've just had the new type S grill fitted (to a manual) am curious now, will go out (once in daylight) to see if it has a closed backside.

gadgetman68 · 12th March 2009, 22:35

just to confirm I've had a good poke around and the 09 type S grill has a closed back

hurricane · 13th March 2009, 07:46

There are two versions, one for the manual and one for the automatic. Check the Honda website for spare parts. They will both fit, but the auto version has an open back for increased airflow.

docholiday · 13th March 2009, 17:43

Just came in from changing the 09 perspex for the 08 version. The 09 perspex grill has two openings in the back, which are closed by screwed-on plastic covers on my manual transmission 1.8. So Honda was at least semi-clever, as the parts are not really different, they only have to leave those covers off on the auto model.

So everything goes, at least for the manual shifter.

TTDegs · 13th March 2009, 23:39

nice one docholiday, cheers for that

Wheelchair · 14th March 2009, 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by docholiday

Just came in from changing the 09 perspex for the 08 version. The 09 perspex grill has two openings in the back, which are closed by screwed-on plastic covers on my manual transmission 1.8. So Honda was at least semi-clever, as the parts are not really different, they only have to leave those covers off on the auto model.

So everything goes, at least for the manual shifter.

You should write a 'How to', it would prove very useful for other forum members wanting to do the same thing.

robbo51 · 14th March 2009, 10:00

Well done Doc. Did you break the bottom brackets?

Wheelchair · 14th March 2009, 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo51

Well done Doc. Did you break the bottom brackets?

A bit ironic, you asking about noses and things broken!

Hope all's healing well!

8th March 2009, 07:36	#1 (permalink)
orel Join Date: 3rd February 2009 Location: LONDON Posts: 15 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	new perspex grill hello lads and gents. I have an honda civic 09 5d 1.8 auto. Im in love with the old perspex grill and I want to fit one on my ride, but I understand that the auto gear have to have entarnce of airo in the grill... so I could fit one or not? or just a type s one?

10th March 2009, 21:08	#4 (permalink)
orel Thread starter Join Date: 3rd February 2009 Location: LONDON Posts: 15 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	before I buy the old perspex grill I need to know if it wont harm my spaceship. The dealer said to me that the type r grill and the old perspex grill dont fit the car . He dont want to deal with it so I came to you . hope you can help me out.

10th March 2009, 23:47	#12 (permalink)
docholiday Join Date: 18th January 2009 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 11 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	As far as I know, the Type-S-grill has a closed backside, just like the old perspex one. And surprise: I have the new 1.8 manual, and as far as i can see, the "pignose" grill also is closed on the backside!? So maybe the auto-model grill is still different with an open backside, like the type-r one? So maybe the best option for extra cooling would be the type-r grill... Confusing, eh? Last edited by docholiday; 11th March 2009 at 21:22.

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8th March 2009, 08:28	#2 (permalink)
robbo51 Civinfo Trader Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, West Yorks Posts: 15,407 Thanks given: 1,096 Thanked 1,474 Times in 1,358 Posts iTrader: (8)	You pose an interesting question there orel..Simple answer, if nobody else knows, is ask your dealer. If it was me, I'd fit a Type S or Type R Grill...I prefer the look (BTW..I like the new perspex grill)

8th March 2009, 09:33	#3 (permalink)
hurricane Supporter Car: 2008 1.8i SP LHD, Milano Red Join Date: 22nd May 2008 Location: Kymenlaakso, Finland Posts: 537 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'll swap you my Perspex grill for your new model grill. It is in perfect shape.

10th March 2009, 21:10	#5 (permalink)
robbo51 Civinfo Trader Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, West Yorks Posts: 15,407 Thanks given: 1,096 Thanked 1,474 Times in 1,358 Posts iTrader: (8)	As far as I know..It DOES fit..but is it Ok to fit with an Autobox?.....Pass

10th March 2009, 21:15	#6 (permalink)
endepende Car: 2010 CW CTR Join Date: 1st October 2008 Location: Poland, Warsaw Posts: 698 Thanks given: 14 Thanked 60 Times in 58 Posts iTrader: (0)	If the New TypeS grill 09' fits the previous models i think the new 09' grill fits it too, would be neccessary to see the brackets of new one, if they are the same as TypeS 09' grill, it will fit any model i think

10th March 2009, 22:36	#8 (permalink)
Brodick Nice Guy! Car: Volvo XC60, D5, Se Lux Join Date: 2nd December 2006 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 2,293 Thanks given: 5 Thanked 33 Times in 30 Posts iTrader: (0)	The old Perspex grill will not work with the auto gearbox the reason for the new style grill is to give better airflow to keep the auto box happy. If you change the grill and have issues ie with the engine and gearbox overheating I would think Honda will not want to know. One of the dealers may like to confirm or disagree with this.

10th March 2009, 22:44	#9 (permalink)
orel Thread starter Join Date: 3rd February 2009 Location: LONDON Posts: 15 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	so i think to go for the type s grill or the type r one's...

10th March 2009, 22:55	#10 (permalink)
Wheelchair Goodbye all, have fun! Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: UK Posts: 10,247 Thanks given: 77 Thanked 404 Times in 388 Posts iTrader: (0)	The new 'S' grill is quite smart.

10th March 2009, 23:24	#11 (permalink)
Orschild Supporter Car: 2008 1.8 5D SE, Galaxy Grey Join Date: 7th January 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 789 Thanks given: 44 Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yes it is, and the price I saw at my Honda dealer isn't too bad either. I think I will be getting that one

10th March 2009, 23:59	#13 (permalink)
gadgetman68 LOUD NOISES!!! Car: 60 FN2 M200 Join Date: 5th February 2009 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 5,132 Thanks given: 873 Thanked 677 Times in 566 Posts iTrader: (5)	confused ........ yes! I've just had the new type S grill fitted (to a manual) am curious now, will go out (once in daylight) to see if it has a closed backside.

12th March 2009, 22:35	#14 (permalink)
gadgetman68 LOUD NOISES!!! Car: 60 FN2 M200 Join Date: 5th February 2009 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 5,132 Thanks given: 873 Thanked 677 Times in 566 Posts iTrader: (5)	just to confirm I've had a good poke around and the 09 type S grill has a closed back

13th March 2009, 07:46	#15 (permalink)
hurricane Supporter Car: 2008 1.8i SP LHD, Milano Red Join Date: 22nd May 2008 Location: Kymenlaakso, Finland Posts: 537 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts iTrader: (0)	There are two versions, one for the manual and one for the automatic. Check the Honda website for spare parts. They will both fit, but the auto version has an open back for increased airflow.

13th March 2009, 17:43	#16 (permalink)
docholiday Join Date: 18th January 2009 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 11 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just came in from changing the 09 perspex for the 08 version. The 09 perspex grill has two openings in the back, which are closed by screwed-on plastic covers on my manual transmission 1.8. So Honda was at least semi-clever, as the parts are not really different, they only have to leave those covers off on the auto model. So everything goes, at least for the manual shifter.

13th March 2009, 23:39	#17 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Car: '08 2.2 NHB CRV Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 7,762 Thanks given: 97 Thanked 98 Times in 92 Posts iTrader: (3)	nice one docholiday, cheers for that

14th March 2009, 10:00	#19 (permalink)
robbo51 Civinfo Trader Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, West Yorks Posts: 15,407 Thanks given: 1,096 Thanked 1,474 Times in 1,358 Posts iTrader: (8)	Well done Doc. Did you break the bottom brackets?