Toda Lightweight Pulley Kit

TDI · 3rd May 2011, 12:19

Developed to give lighter and sportier engine characteristic. By reducing the overall weight (and inertia) of the 3 pulleys, and by modifying the alternator pulley ratio to take advantage of the more sporty use, the burden on the engine is reduced helping to improve acceleration performance. A standard length belt for the AC kit and shortened belt for the AC less kit is provided. Installing with a new belt is important to help improve the running in process of the new pulleys. A good affinity material is used on the oil seal face of the crank pulley to reduce friction improving sealing and to reduce wear. The hexagon socket design of the original crank pulley is retained so that Honda's service tool can be used when loosening or tightening the crank pulley bolt.

A. 2 pieces structure
A good affinity material is used on the oil seal face of the crank pulley to reduce friction improving sealing and to reduce wear.

B. Duralumin A-7075
A hard base material is used the reduce wear increasing longevity of the pulleys and helping to prevent damage such as stone chips.

C. Red anodizing (Alumite)
These red anodized pulleys help to enhance the appearance of the engine bay.

Color variation
You can customize Light Weight Front Pulley KIT with special color with additional at additional cost when you order. Please allow an extra 3 weeks are required in production.

pigdog · 3rd May 2011, 17:21

price and estiamted fitting time?

TDI · 3rd May 2011, 17:58

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Originally Posted by pigdog

price and estiamted fitting time?

The standard colour kits costs £360, and the other colours are £380 (both plus vat).

The installation time should be approximately 1 hour but we have seen instances where the standard crankshaft pulley has been a bit of a problem to remove, therefore adding time.

All the best,

Mark

pigdog · 3rd May 2011, 18:18

thats cool mark, thanks for the info

R555 · 3rd May 2011, 18:24

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Originally Posted by pigdog

price and estiamted fitting time?

Toda addiction Colin?

Like all Toda stuff this looks amazing.

pigdog · 3rd May 2011, 18:38

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Originally Posted by R555

Toda addiction Colin?

Like all Toda stuff this looks amazing.

lol david, just a little mate. been toying with a few ideas as to were to go with my engine mods as to be honest after rrc and bigger TB, im virtually done. so started looking into things like this to aid acceleration and things like that.

gasss · 5th May 2011, 10:38

NST - NonStopTuning - The Leader In Civic Si K20 Pulleys

pigdog · 5th May 2011, 18:20

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Originally Posted by gasss

NST - NonStopTuning - The Leader In Civic Si K20 Pulleys

you got these fitted gasss?

ash_rage · 5th May 2011, 18:27

Mark these been fitted on any car yet? If so any figures showing gains?

pigdog · 5th May 2011, 20:01

you wont actually get any gains from these ash, their not that type of performance mod. it will allow for better acceleration through them being a lighter weight than the current oem pulleys if i read into them right.

gasss · 5th May 2011, 20:06

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Originally Posted by pigdog

you got these fitted gasss?

Not yet. I have ordered one kit and it should arrive in a few days.

Here is some info about the NonStopTuning (I suppose that it might be usefull for all people interested in the Toda kit):

8th Generation Honda Civic Forum

pigdog · 5th May 2011, 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by gasss

Not yet. I have ordered one kit and it should arrive in a few days.

Here is some info about the NonStopTuning (I suppose that it might be usefull for all people interested in the Toda kit):

8th Generation Honda Civic Forum

look forward to hearing what you think of it mate.

ash_rage · 5th May 2011, 21:41

Mark, quick question driving the car in a normal manner with this fitted, will it result in the alternater been driven to slowly to charge the battery properly?

higham · 5th May 2011, 22:19

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Originally Posted by ash_rage

Mark, quick question driving the car in a normal manner with this fitted, will it result in the alternater been driven to slowly to charge the battery properly?

i think it will charge the same.

Beatdown · 6th May 2011, 18:12

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Originally Posted by higham

i think it will charge the same.

From toda website...

CAUTION: TODA Racing has done many checks and calculations for its light weight pulley kit so that the revised ratios allow the charging system to supply the basic amount of electricity required to run the engine under most conditions and charge the battery. But please understand that in worst case situations the battery may become drained.

gasss · 6th May 2011, 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beatdown

From toda website...

CAUTION: TODA Racing has done many checks and calculations for its light weight pulley kit so that the revised ratios allow the charging system to supply the basic amount of electricity required to run the engine under most conditions and charge the battery. But please understand that in worst case situations the battery may become drained.

Copy&paste from NonStopTuning:

Quote:

The NST kit drives the alternator and electrical system at OEM speeds/specs. No slower, no faster = no change in the life expectancy of the alternator or electrical system

ash_rage · 6th May 2011, 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by higham

i think it will charge the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beatdown

From toda website...

CAUTION: TODA Racing has done many checks and calculations for its light weight pulley kit so that the revised ratios allow the charging system to supply the basic amount of electricity required to run the engine under most conditions and charge the battery. But please understand that in worst case situations the battery may become drained.

Thanks

bronze · 6th May 2011, 18:52

Was thinking about getting this mod as reducing rotational mass is an easy and quick way of extracting a little more performance, but Beatdown's post is a little disconcerting, even more so during winter - don't want to be faced with the choice of heating or lights on a frozen winter morning and forget the rear demister!
Was looking on the NST website NST - NonStopTuning - The Leader In Civic Si K20 Pulleys

I see that the crank is underdriven by 15% and the alternator overdriven by 15% so the net charging remains unchanged, but other items like A/C compressor will remain 15% underdriven, so on the face of it that seems like a better bet.

Perhaps TDI et al can give us some insight? Has anyone evaluated any of these kits (especially under high electrical load) so we can cut through the marketing hyperbole and get some objective results before parting with £400+

Also, with the TODA kit does it retain the standard OEM belt?

pigdog · 6th May 2011, 19:07

I think it's a new belt that's supplied with the pulley kit.

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TDI · 7th May 2011, 16:14

Unfortunately we haven't tested these yet so can't answer some of the questions.

A lot of Toda equipment is designed for racing applications so they may have designed their kit to underdrive the accessories thus reducing load and improving engine output, rather than maintaining battery charging performance.

Caveat: This is my personal assumption!

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pigdog aka Colin Car: 2008 CTR GT, Black Join Date: 19th April 2008 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 8,278 Thanks given: 640 Thanked 940 Times in 894 Posts iTrader: (8)	thats cool mark, thanks for the info

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ash_rage Supporter Car: CTR GT Join Date: 14th January 2010 Location: London and Essex Posts: 6,436 Thanks given: 702 Thanked 559 Times in 468 Posts iTrader: (21)	Mark these been fitted on any car yet? If so any figures showing gains?

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pigdog aka Colin Car: 2008 CTR GT, Black Join Date: 19th April 2008 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 8,278 Thanks given: 640 Thanked 940 Times in 894 Posts iTrader: (8)	you wont actually get any gains from these ash, their not that type of performance mod. it will allow for better acceleration through them being a lighter weight than the current oem pulleys if i read into them right.

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ash_rage Supporter Car: CTR GT Join Date: 14th January 2010 Location: London and Essex Posts: 6,436 Thanks given: 702 Thanked 559 Times in 468 Posts iTrader: (21)	Mark, quick question driving the car in a normal manner with this fitted, will it result in the alternater been driven to slowly to charge the battery properly?

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bronze Join Date: 21st March 2008 Location: Somewhere in the VTEC zone Posts: 31 Thanks given: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Was thinking about getting this mod as reducing rotational mass is an easy and quick way of extracting a little more performance, but Beatdown's post is a little disconcerting, even more so during winter - don't want to be faced with the choice of heating or lights on a frozen winter morning and forget the rear demister! Was looking on the NST website NST - NonStopTuning - The Leader In Civic Si K20 Pulleys I see that the crank is underdriven by 15% and the alternator overdriven by 15% so the net charging remains unchanged, but other items like A/C compressor will remain 15% underdriven, so on the face of it that seems like a better bet. Perhaps TDI et al can give us some insight? Has anyone evaluated any of these kits (especially under high electrical load) so we can cut through the marketing hyperbole and get some objective results before parting with £400+ Also, with the TODA kit does it retain the standard OEM belt?

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pigdog aka Colin Car: 2008 CTR GT, Black Join Date: 19th April 2008 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 8,278 Thanks given: 640 Thanked 940 Times in 894 Posts iTrader: (8)	I think it's a new belt that's supplied with the pulley kit. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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TDI Commercial user Thread starter Join Date: 19th February 2010 Location: Thurrock, Essex. Posts: 1,349 Thanks given: 246 Thanked 146 Times in 110 Posts iTrader: (0)	Unfortunately we haven't tested these yet so can't answer some of the questions. A lot of Toda equipment is designed for racing applications so they may have designed their kit to underdrive the accessories thus reducing load and improving engine output, rather than maintaining battery charging performance. Caveat: This is my personal assumption!