Unleaded or V-Power (or Optimax whatever its called)

StuMcBill · 4th January 2008, 06:09

Hi

I was just wondering if I would notice any difference to my Type-R while using V-Power, in terms of performance and MPG?

Stewart

Munro · 4th January 2008, 08:00

I nearly always use the V Power, as it had a beneficial effect on my previous car (felt smoother running , slightly more powerful and keeps the engine clean of deposits).

Try these links for more info
Fuel for thought features - Fifth Gear

Shell V-power petrol

StuMcBill · 4th January 2008, 08:05

Ok, I think I just have normal Unleaded in my tank at the moment!

So when I refill can I just put V-Power in or should I try and run it dry?

Stu

SHADEMASTER · 4th January 2008, 10:36

My previous car was a Mazda RX8,
I noticed if i used normal unleaded in the 8 it felt sluggish and the engine developed a flat spot about 3000rpm.

After talking with a friend who is a mechanic he advised me to use BP Ultimate or Shell Optimax, after the third full tank there was a noticeable difference in power and engine smoothness.

I have noticed a few people on here have described flat spots in there Type R.

I have only ever used BP Ultimate in my Type R and Navara,
both engines are running very smoothly.

MoOriginal · 11th January 2008, 11:50

Im sure ill be corrected but i thought there is no point using higher octane petrol if the engine doesnt have a knock sensor - and ive heard that the type r doesnt ?

angie4m · 11th January 2008, 12:48

I can't get V-Power in Edinburgh. Its driving me up the wall! I have a sneeky feeling that folk stopped using it after they increased the price (before the current rise) by 10 to 15p!

Sporran · 11th January 2008, 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoOriginal

Im sure ill be corrected but i thought there is no point using higher octane petrol if the engine doesnt have a knock sensor - and ive heard that the type r doesnt ?

Before the type R, i had the Golf GTI which was designed to run on 98ron or above, the manual said the knock sensor only worked when running on 95.

But Optimax did make a big difference to both the performance and wallet, was 10 a litre more in my garage, but not thats been closed only option is tesco

Homer Simpson · 11th January 2008, 15:49

Save your money!! Most independent tests reckon that premium fuel is a complete rip off.

I reckon there's a placebo effect with this stuff. I've tried both because on occasions I have only been able to get a so called premium fuel and I can honestly say that I for one cannot tell the difference driving on the UK's roads.

craigc · 11th January 2008, 16:12

From previous experiance unless the car has a Turbo then regular Unleaded does just fine. V-power worked well in my Leon Cupra R but never noticed a difference in N/A cars

vteclover · 11th January 2008, 16:35

Some engines are designed for ron 98 (with high compresion) so they wil bennefit only if they run on v power, bp ultimate and more of those fuels. But if you will use 95 regular fuel its possible the same engine will lose power because of pre-ignition or knocking, so there for the knock sensor wil retard the ignition timing, which is bad for engine power. Therefor JDC cars have more power because the compression ratio is also higher and they have better fuel in japan. The type R sure has a knock sensor. But i am not sure if it will benefit also from better fuel. U can only measure it on a dyno, as many ppl dont feel a bit more ore less hp on averige driving circumstances.

angie4m · 11th January 2008, 17:13

I started using V Power in my Mini after a mate started using it in his EP3 Type R and saw a better fuel consumption, I have to say that I also found this in the Mini and I didn't change my driving style

MoOriginal · 12th January 2008, 08:28

im sure then extra cleaning detergents help in making the car feel more lively

angie4m · 12th January 2008, 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoOriginal

im sure then extra cleaning detergents help in making the car feel more lively

Yeah. My sister was told by VW to put this in her tank when the engine started to judder a wee bit. They said that V power would clean the engine and help it run better, but they said she only had to do this every 4 or 5 tanks (so not too often for her considering she fills her car once every 2 months)

steelenator · 12th January 2008, 18:38

always used vpower, happy with it. you can find cheap petrol prices local to you on this site: Free UK fuel prices. 9,760 petrol stations covered - PetrolPrices.com worth a look... newcastle just got lashed off man u, is there any hope???

mytse · 11th March 2008, 11:31

V-Power is worth it. I always try to use it in my S2000. I get better performance and much better mpg too. I used to commute 120miles a day in my S2, and V-power adds at least 20miles extra to the tank.

bonzo · 11th March 2008, 16:41

I had a flat spot on mine and tried V power, it may be psychological but it seems to be much better with the V power, and I get 30 mpg every time (mixture of driving)
Also didn't I catch the end of an ad on TV in the last couple of days saying 'get a free toy Ferrari when you buy 30 litres of V power' or was I just dreaming.

rallakias · 11th March 2008, 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzo

I had a flat spot on mine and tried V power, it may be psychological but it seems to be much better with the V power, and I get 30 mpg every time (mixture of driving)
Also didn't I catch the end of an ad on TV in the last couple of days saying 'get a free toy Ferrari when you buy 30 litres of V power' or was I just dreaming.

In Greece you get a Ferrari toy with 30euros' or more petrol, but you still have to pay 2 euros to get the toy!

Milano_Jon · 14th March 2008, 12:51

Just brimmed my FN2 with v-power as Shell had ran out of standard unleaded, so we'll see if there is any difference. The last 10 tanks have yeilded 32.5 give or take a tenth no matter what the journey...

jamesaberdeen73 · 16th March 2008, 17:03

i have been using esso supreme and there is a noticeable improvement,

filled up with BP ultimate once.......it cost £55 to fill the tank

Harlequin · 19th March 2008, 14:24

I use Shell V-Power Racing (100 Octane)

It's currently sitting at $1.55 over here (£0.72)
Standard Unleaded (95RON) is at $1.39 (£0.65)

So for a full 50 Litre tank I'm spending and extra $8 which equates to £3.73.

I didn't but this car because I was worried about running costs and I'm quite happy with the performance so if I don't get any extra MPG or grunt out of it I don't mind. (wouldn't object though

)

I am, however, more than happy to spend the extra to get a cleaner fuel that will keep my engine running better for longer.

Admittedly our fuel prices appear to be somewhat lower than what you guys in the UK have to put up with...

-H

4th January 2008, 06:09	#1 (permalink)
StuMcBill Dandy Don Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 2nd January 2008 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 124	Unleaded or V-Power (or Optimax whatever its called) Hi I was just wondering if I would notice any difference to my Type-R while using V-Power, in terms of performance and MPG? Stewart

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SHADEMASTER Type R GT (R-8065) Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 4th July 2007 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 381	My previous car was a Mazda RX8, I noticed if i used normal unleaded in the 8 it felt sluggish and the engine developed a flat spot about 3000rpm. After talking with a friend who is a mechanic he advised me to use BP Ultimate or Shell Optimax, after the third full tank there was a noticeable difference in power and engine smoothness. I have noticed a few people on here have described flat spots in there Type R. I have only ever used BP Ultimate in my Type R and Navara, both engines are running very smoothly. Last edited by SHADEMASTER : 4th January 2008 at 15:35.

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bonzo Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 19th June 2007 Location: Bristol Posts: 77	V power I had a flat spot on mine and tried V power, it may be psychological but it seems to be much better with the V power, and I get 30 mpg every time (mixture of driving) Also didn't I catch the end of an ad on TV in the last couple of days saying 'get a free toy Ferrari when you buy 30 litres of V power' or was I just dreaming.

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4th January 2008, 08:00	#2 (permalink)
Munro Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 896	I nearly always use the V Power, as it had a beneficial effect on my previous car (felt smoother running , slightly more powerful and keeps the engine clean of deposits). Try these links for more info Fuel for thought features - Fifth Gear Shell V-power petrol

4th January 2008, 08:05	#3 (permalink)
StuMcBill Dandy Don Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 2nd January 2008 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 124	Ok, I think I just have normal Unleaded in my tank at the moment! So when I refill can I just put V-Power in or should I try and run it dry? Stu

11th January 2008, 11:50	#5 (permalink)
MoOriginal Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 10th May 2007 Location: London, Perivale Posts: 149	Im sure ill be corrected but i thought there is no point using higher octane petrol if the engine doesnt have a knock sensor - and ive heard that the type r doesnt ?

11th January 2008, 12:48	#6 (permalink)
angie4m You know you want too Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,355	I can't get V-Power in Edinburgh. Its driving me up the wall! I have a sneeky feeling that folk stopped using it after they increased the price (before the current rise) by 10 to 15p!

11th January 2008, 15:49	#8 (permalink)
Homer Simpson Wheelnut Join Date: 11th November 2007 Location: England Posts: 84	Save your money!! Most independent tests reckon that premium fuel is a complete rip off. I reckon there's a placebo effect with this stuff. I've tried both because on occasions I have only been able to get a so called premium fuel and I can honestly say that I for one cannot tell the difference driving on the UK's roads.

11th January 2008, 16:12	#9 (permalink)
craigc Valve Cap Join Date: 8th January 2008 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 22	From previous experiance unless the car has a Turbo then regular Unleaded does just fine. V-power worked well in my Leon Cupra R but never noticed a difference in N/A cars

11th January 2008, 16:35	#10 (permalink)
vteclover Valve Cap Join Date: 27th January 2007 Location: netherlands Posts: 14	Some engines are designed for ron 98 (with high compresion) so they wil bennefit only if they run on v power, bp ultimate and more of those fuels. But if you will use 95 regular fuel its possible the same engine will lose power because of pre-ignition or knocking, so there for the knock sensor wil retard the ignition timing, which is bad for engine power. Therefor JDC cars have more power because the compression ratio is also higher and they have better fuel in japan. The type R sure has a knock sensor. But i am not sure if it will benefit also from better fuel. U can only measure it on a dyno, as many ppl dont feel a bit more ore less hp on averige driving circumstances.

11th January 2008, 17:13	#11 (permalink)
angie4m You know you want too Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,355	I started using V Power in my Mini after a mate started using it in his EP3 Type R and saw a better fuel consumption, I have to say that I also found this in the Mini and I didn't change my driving style

12th January 2008, 08:28	#12 (permalink)
MoOriginal Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 10th May 2007 Location: London, Perivale Posts: 149	im sure then extra cleaning detergents help in making the car feel more lively

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12th January 2008, 18:38	#14 (permalink)
steelenator Valve Cap Join Date: 28th March 2007 Location: newcastle Posts: 46	always used vpower, happy with it. you can find cheap petrol prices local to you on this site: Free UK fuel prices. 9,760 petrol stations covered - PetrolPrices.com worth a look... newcastle just got lashed off man u, is there any hope???

11th March 2008, 11:31	#15 (permalink)
mytse Valve Cap Join Date: 8th January 2008 Location: Nottingham Posts: 14	V-Power is worth it. I always try to use it in my S2000. I get better performance and much better mpg too. I used to commute 120miles a day in my S2, and V-power adds at least 20miles extra to the tank.

14th March 2008, 12:51	#18 (permalink)
Milano_Jon Wheelnut Join Date: 17th July 2007 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 98	Just brimmed my FN2 with v-power as Shell had ran out of standard unleaded, so we'll see if there is any difference. The last 10 tanks have yeilded 32.5 give or take a tenth no matter what the journey...

16th March 2008, 17:03	#19 (permalink)
jamesaberdeen73 Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 2nd October 2007 Location: Turriff Posts: 86	i have been using esso supreme and there is a noticeable improvement, filled up with BP ultimate once.......it cost £55 to fill the tank

19th March 2008, 14:24	#20 (permalink)
Harlequin Type-R GT [R-11523] Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 13th March 2008 Location: Brisbane, AUS Posts: 155	I use Shell V-Power Racing (100 Octane) It's currently sitting at $1.55 over here (£0.72) Standard Unleaded (95RON) is at $1.39 (£0.65) So for a full 50 Litre tank I'm spending and extra $8 which equates to £3.73. I didn't but this car because I was worried about running costs and I'm quite happy with the performance so if I don't get any extra MPG or grunt out of it I don't mind. (wouldn't object though ) I am, however, more than happy to spend the extra to get a cleaner fuel that will keep my engine running better for longer. Admittedly our fuel prices appear to be somewhat lower than what you guys in the UK have to put up with... -H