Alternative to Hondata & mappable !?!? - Page 2

Mr JP · 13th March 2009, 17:44

Ceky just PM'd me. This is the link Chiptuning pentru orice model de masina!

As you can see it says Group N

Ceky said they Mod the Group N one!

ceky · 13th March 2009, 17:58

The corect link it is here : Servicii de chiptuning profesional pentru orice model de masina!
Regards,
Ceky

Woette · 13th March 2009, 18:00

Any further info on the 1.8 ECU flash?

ceky · 13th March 2009, 18:04

Yes it can be done !
It is up to you !
Ceky

nunoctr · 13th March 2009, 18:21

Can you disable the o2 sensor like hondata with this reflash ?

ceky · 13th March 2009, 18:22

Yes !

regards,
Ceky

Gouws · 13th March 2009, 18:33

Hi Ceky

Can you reflash a FN2 ecu with this code: 37820-RSP-N02.I ask this because i've orderd the Hondata ecu in the past and it wasn't compatible with South African models.

mw1978 · 13th March 2009, 18:48

I do not believe in such increases after the ECU. Guys this is N/A engine not TURBO

nunoctr · 13th March 2009, 19:08

hope this product his better that hondata (and i have one) because I hate doug and his friends at hondata.

They have a EMS for the K20Z but they don't sell it because the reflash in the USA and Europe have good sales. Like the americans say: F***data.

ceky · 13th March 2009, 19:20

Gouws - I need to see a photo of the ECU with the back open and I can tell you precise! Your car is what year ?? Because in Singapore the model 2009 Type R FD2 has a difrent setup of the throttle and the normal Hondata ECU do not work properly, but because we can read and write the ECU we can do it troblefree! Till know we can do all Honda petrol without the 1.4/1.6 FIT but they will be availeble very soon ....
Regards,
Ceky

Gouws · 13th March 2009, 20:03

It's a 07 FN2 .I'll take some pics for you as soon as possible.It looks exactly like the Hondata one

nunoctr · 13th March 2009, 20:47

my topic at 8 th generation civic forum some time ago about rom tuning and is "reflash" for the FD2.

tuning the stock ECU. Possible? - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum

Mr JP · 13th March 2009, 20:59

Guys 400 euros is for the mapping alone, it doesn't include an ECU, so you either send your standard ECU or send a Hondata, I don't like the sound of either. I got 13BHP with the Hondata and lower VTEC at 3800RPM, which must provide better midrange than starting at 4500/4700.

I'm going to be patient and wait, more and more will come, think carefully before rushing to get something. As I have said before the Hondata is already extremely good, it seems that Dimsport take the base Group N and tweak it here and there. Optimising cam angles etc is nothing new, the Hondata already does it.

Be careful is all I'm saying.

tpw · 13th March 2009, 21:41

Stock FD2 with Hondata reflash, Toda manifold and exhaust are over 240bhp many times as tested in the UK....and above all fuelled safe.
get a mappable ECU and see even better gains! Bet their car is running with Toda camshafts as sets have been sent to Romania.

That is the good thing about the Hondata reflash and supplied maps for the Kpro's. You can trust them not to be on the edge with the ignition or potentially running lean on fuelling.

I wouldn't be sending any ECU's off for someone to map/reflash then running them in my car. Every car is different and a reflash never works well. May seem like it as makes good numbers but for how long and how safe?

If your that eager for a "tuned " map get to a local tuner to you that can map to your car and your mods. Get a Dastek or go AEM or any other tuner mappable one, or just wait a few months.

If you insist on this reflash, consider driving your car to them to get it done live. Dead cheap and easy to get to Romania....but watch out for the massive potholes!

ceky · 13th March 2009, 22:17

Gouws - If inside it is the same it can be done !

For the rest of the coments thanks for your opinions!

Mine is this one till you try it is imposible to know if Hondata it is so great and the cars software it is very important to be made on the car way Hondata send you an ECU with the same file to all?????

You see sam of you may know athers not but the soft in the ECU for to cars same year , same mounth it is the same ....but the difrence between them it is the mecanical parts thats why one will go allways better then other due to the macanical parts!
We try the same software for the same cars as Hondata and it work perfect!The result of more than 100 dyno's on difrent cars in Singapore it is the same !
So we are proud with the result so are the clients !When you will be one for sure you will know !
Regards,
Ceky

satyper · 16th March 2009, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by fat4y

have any of you's ever tried Dastek? I had it on mine and it was great...great gain on performance!!i got 15bhp to be excat and i can prove it with a graph

but you can change the vtec engament point on the Dastek?

ceky · 16th March 2009, 18:34

I am sure that they can't....we have a dealer here and their result on their dyno it is far behind from our result!The product it is good but limited!For ie the japan honda's are limited to 180km/h we can remove it unichip can't, we can put the rev limiter to any number , v-tech point can be easily changed they can't and so on.
regards,
ceky

tpw · 16th March 2009, 19:03

New Unichip Q is the one you want.
Can do everything including vtec and cam adjustments.
Someone on here has one. Cant remember who though.

ceky · 18th March 2009, 08:09

this is the link with what I've done in Singapore !
link: 9500rpm Civic FD2R- Video
Enjoy it !
Ceky

ceky · 19th March 2009, 14:42

This is our latest project FD2 kit it is in test soon we will let you know about the last result !
Ceky

13th March 2009, 17:58	#22 (permalink)
ceky Join Date: 13th March 2009 Location: Bucharest, RO Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	hi The corect link it is here : Servicii de chiptuning profesional pentru orice model de masina! Regards, Ceky

13th March 2009, 18:04	#24 (permalink)
ceky Join Date: 13th March 2009 Location: Bucharest, RO Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yes Yes it can be done ! It is up to you ! Ceky

13th March 2009, 19:20	#30 (permalink)
ceky Join Date: 13th March 2009 Location: Bucharest, RO Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Gouws - I need to see a photo of the ECU with the back open and I can tell you precise! Your car is what year ?? Because in Singapore the model 2009 Type R FD2 has a difrent setup of the throttle and the normal Hondata ECU do not work properly, but because we can read and write the ECU we can do it troblefree! Till know we can do all Honda petrol without the 1.4/1.6 FIT but they will be availeble very soon .... Regards, Ceky Last edited by ceky; 13th March 2009 at 19:23.

13th March 2009, 20:47	#32 (permalink)
nunoctr Join Date: 26th May 2008 Location: portugal - Benfica Posts: 597 Thanks: 8 Thanked 42 Times in 37 Posts iTrader: (0)	my topic at 8 th generation civic forum some time ago about rom tuning and is "reflash" for the FD2. tuning the stock ECU. Possible? - 8th Generation Honda Civic Forum Last edited by nunoctr; 13th March 2009 at 20:50.

13th March 2009, 21:41	#34 (permalink)
tpw Join Date: 4th May 2008 Location: Cheshire Posts: 610 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts iTrader: (0)	Stock FD2 with Hondata reflash, Toda manifold and exhaust are over 240bhp many times as tested in the UK....and above all fuelled safe. get a mappable ECU and see even better gains! Bet their car is running with Toda camshafts as sets have been sent to Romania. That is the good thing about the Hondata reflash and supplied maps for the Kpro's. You can trust them not to be on the edge with the ignition or potentially running lean on fuelling. I wouldn't be sending any ECU's off for someone to map/reflash then running them in my car. Every car is different and a reflash never works well. May seem like it as makes good numbers but for how long and how safe? If your that eager for a "tuned " map get to a local tuner to you that can map to your car and your mods. Get a Dastek or go AEM or any other tuner mappable one, or just wait a few months. If you insist on this reflash, consider driving your car to them to get it done live. Dead cheap and easy to get to Romania....but watch out for the massive potholes! Last edited by tpw; 13th March 2009 at 21:47.

13th March 2009, 17:44	#21 (permalink)
Mr JP Bulbs, HID's, LED's Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 4,766 Thanks: 135 Thanked 223 Times in 213 Posts iTrader: (44)	Ceky just PM'd me. This is the link Chiptuning pentru orice model de masina! As you can see it says Group N Ceky said they Mod the Group N one!

13th March 2009, 18:00	#23 (permalink)
Woette Car: '07 1.8 MR Type-S 40000 km Join Date: 7th October 2007 Location: Leuven, Belgium Posts: 1,178 Thanks: 58 Thanked 49 Times in 49 Posts iTrader: (0)	Any further info on the 1.8 ECU flash?

13th March 2009, 18:21	#25 (permalink)
nunoctr Join Date: 26th May 2008 Location: portugal - Benfica Posts: 597 Thanks: 8 Thanked 42 Times in 37 Posts iTrader: (0)	Can you disable the o2 sensor like hondata with this reflash ?

13th March 2009, 18:22	#26 (permalink)
ceky Join Date: 13th March 2009 Location: Bucharest, RO Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yes ! regards, Ceky

13th March 2009, 18:33	#27 (permalink)
Gouws Join Date: 11th June 2008 Location: South Africa Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi Ceky Can you reflash a FN2 ecu with this code: 37820-RSP-N02.I ask this because i've orderd the Hondata ecu in the past and it wasn't compatible with South African models.

13th March 2009, 18:48	#28 (permalink)
mw1978 Car: 2007 CTR Join Date: 31st January 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 381 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts iTrader: (0)	I do not believe in such increases after the ECU. Guys this is N/A engine not TURBO

13th March 2009, 19:08	#29 (permalink)
nunoctr Join Date: 26th May 2008 Location: portugal - Benfica Posts: 597 Thanks: 8 Thanked 42 Times in 37 Posts iTrader: (0)	hope this product his better that hondata (and i have one) because I hate doug and his friends at hondata. They have a EMS for the K20Z but they don't sell it because the reflash in the USA and Europe have good sales. Like the americans say: F***data.

13th March 2009, 20:03	#31 (permalink)
Gouws Join Date: 11th June 2008 Location: South Africa Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	It's a 07 FN2 .I'll take some pics for you as soon as possible.It looks exactly like the Hondata one

13th March 2009, 20:59	#33 (permalink)
Mr JP Bulbs, HID's, LED's Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 4,766 Thanks: 135 Thanked 223 Times in 213 Posts iTrader: (44)	Guys 400 euros is for the mapping alone, it doesn't include an ECU, so you either send your standard ECU or send a Hondata, I don't like the sound of either. I got 13BHP with the Hondata and lower VTEC at 3800RPM, which must provide better midrange than starting at 4500/4700. I'm going to be patient and wait, more and more will come, think carefully before rushing to get something. As I have said before the Hondata is already extremely good, it seems that Dimsport take the base Group N and tweak it here and there. Optimising cam angles etc is nothing new, the Hondata already does it. Be careful is all I'm saying.

13th March 2009, 22:17	#35 (permalink)
ceky Join Date: 13th March 2009 Location: Bucharest, RO Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Gouws - If inside it is the same it can be done ! For the rest of the coments thanks for your opinions! Mine is this one till you try it is imposible to know if Hondata it is so great and the cars software it is very important to be made on the car way Hondata send you an ECU with the same file to all????? You see sam of you may know athers not but the soft in the ECU for to cars same year , same mounth it is the same ....but the difrence between them it is the mecanical parts thats why one will go allways better then other due to the macanical parts! We try the same software for the same cars as Hondata and it work perfect!The result of more than 100 dyno's on difrent cars in Singapore it is the same ! So we are proud with the result so are the clients !When you will be one for sure you will know ! Regards, Ceky

16th March 2009, 18:34	#37 (permalink)
ceky Join Date: 13th March 2009 Location: Bucharest, RO Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I am sure that they can't....we have a dealer here and their result on their dyno it is far behind from our result!The product it is good but limited!For ie the japan honda's are limited to 180km/h we can remove it unichip can't, we can put the rev limiter to any number , v-tech point can be easily changed they can't and so on. regards, ceky Last edited by ceky; 16th March 2009 at 18:38.

16th March 2009, 19:03	#38 (permalink)
tpw Join Date: 4th May 2008 Location: Cheshire Posts: 610 Thanks: 0 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts iTrader: (0)	New Unichip Q is the one you want. Can do everything including vtec and cam adjustments. Someone on here has one. Cant remember who though.

18th March 2009, 08:09	#39 (permalink)
ceky Join Date: 13th March 2009 Location: Bucharest, RO Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	this is the link with what I've done in Singapore ! link: 9500rpm Civic FD2R- Video Enjoy it ! Ceky

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